Originally posted by: herbiehancock
Originally posted by: Imyourzero
Originally posted by: Keleka
I think 1000W PS is overkill and a waste of money.
I use a SOHO server case and i could run my C2D, SLI x2 8800 *only use one atm* as well as 5 hard drives a burner or two with all my expansion slots and memory slots maxed and not be short on power. I use a 700W OCZ Gamestream and for what i use it for *gaming* i think its overkill still.
How does the quality of the components in an OCZ compare to that of say, a Corsair/Seasonic? I ran the 520w Modstream for a while and as far I was concerned it was a great PSU. I was considering the 700w for my next build but if the 620w Corsair uses higher quality internals then I might go for it as it seems to come very highly recommended.
Have you been to JonnyGuru's website, jonnyguru.com? Spend some time reading his reviews. Does a quite thorough examination and stress test on each power supply unit he reviews. Actually uses an industry-standard load tester and also manages to measure ripple at load, both things a lot of sites cannot or neglect to do.
His use of the SunMoon load tester moves him, in MHO, into another class of tester for power supplies. You ought to read how and why he tests like he does. Very good read. And while you can test a power supply with cards, motherboards, and the like, without an oscilloscope to examine ripple at load, or being able to actually load to stated limits, really doesn't show how "good" or "stable" a given power supply is.
Case in point......Enhance power supplies. Found at eWiz, for one place. Usually not spoken about much as they tend to be mostly an OEM supplier for ps "manufacturers" like Silverstone, for instance. (You do know most power supply "manufacturers" aren't really making their own but instead are having them made for them to spec, like Corsair does by sourcing theirs from Seasonic.)
Take, as another example, PCP&C....they don't make a damned power supply at all but instead source theirs from two manufacturers......Silencers originally were made by Sparkle and are now made by Seasonic. Turbo-Cool ps by PCP&C are actually made by Win-tact.
So, are the Seasonic-built PCP&C Silencers worth the premium over the actual Seasonics or Corsairs? Well, Corsair gives a 5 year warranty on their power supplies unlike PCP&C, and rate their output at 50C. PCP&C rate Silencers at 40C.....10C lower in operating temps. Significant? Maybe to some people looking for the best value for their money. Similarly, Corsair uses a LOT of 105C rated capacitors in their ps (almost all the significant caps are 105C rated in Corsair ps), Silencers don't have quite as many 105C caps.....a few 85C caps inside, instead. Add to it the modular cables and I think the Corsair presents a better value than the PCP&C selection.
How and why JonnyGuru tests like he does.
Who "makes" who in power supplies....or why you cannot trust the UL number (their easily purchased to look like you made your own.)
Now about these asinine comments:
Originally posted by: JEDIToda
I don`t see Jonny contacting PC Power & Cooling to see if perhaps the first 1k unit he tested might have been defective,,,,lol
since when does price figure in on the quality of a PSU???
Things that make you go hmmm...
To answer the first.....why
would the PCP&C be thought to be defective? The Silverstone was out of spec on ripple, which the PCP&C was not, and the Silverstone was shutting off at high load, again which the PCP&C was not. He even compared the Silverstone to its OEM equivalent, a SevenTeam ST1000E-AD, and found the Silverstone unit was way out of spec compared to its identical OEM twin. So, that's why he obtained a new Silverstone sample and, mysteriously, the original problems disappeared. Sometimes bad units slip by, tard.
As for the second inane comment.......if you'd bothered to post WHY Jonny uses value as part of his evaluation score, then you would have presented the whole story. But, as per your usual trollish behavior, you pick and choose your inflammatory statements very carefully as to incite as much flamebait as possible while distorting the facts.
No wonder you're labeled a troll on JG's site and likewise well on your way to be labeled one here, too.