Whether I like Apple products or not, they're very innovative

AgaBoogaBoo

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I've always held Apple as being the company to come up with new products and in a way, change the industry because others follow.

I'm probably a little late to this, and I'm sure it's a repost, but their laptops for example, are amazing.

1. The power cord is magnetic and so if someone trips on it, it's not as big of a deal.
2. The network connection can convert to a crossover cable - such a simple thing that no one had done before.
3. To scroll on a page, rather than using the edge of the trackpad, you use two fingers instead of one along the edge.
4. The screen's brightness level automatically adjusts to the lighting conditions - not really a big thing because Dell has it on a lot of their products, but still nice

If you pick up a Dell laptop, you won't find points 1-3 at all.

What else has Apple done that I haven't noticed yet or are these the biggest hardware points?
 

nageov3t

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I think apple's biggest problem is the casting director for its commercials.

seriously, how do they manage to fill every single one of their commercials with the biggest tools ever.

the last iphone commercial I saw made me wtfbbq... what kind of DB carries two cellphones, a camera, a laptop, and an ipod with them whenever they leave the house?
 

her209

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Originally posted by: AgaBoogaBoo
2. The network connection can convert to a crossover cable - such a simple thing that no one had done before.
Part of the 1000BASE-T standard.
 

gorcorps

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Originally posted by: loki8481
I think apple's biggest problem is the casting director for its commercials.

seriously, how do they manage to fill every single one of their commercials with the biggest tools ever.

the last iphone commercial I saw made me wtfbbq... what kind of DB carries two cellphones, a camera, a laptop, and an ipod with them whenever they leave the house?

I thought that too. "I carry 2 phones, one for text and stuff and one for talking." Who has a separate text phone? Absolute BS apple... and the iphone's camera is pretty good for a phone, but it definitely isn't good enough to replace any sort of full camera.
 

AgaBoogaBoo

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Originally posted by: her209
Originally posted by: AgaBoogaBoo
2. The network connection can convert to a crossover cable - such a simple thing that no one had done before.
Part of the 1000BASE-T standard.
Didn't know that, are most of the laptop manufacturer's adopting it as soon as Apple?
 

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Originally posted by: AgaBoogaBoo
Originally posted by: her209
Originally posted by: AgaBoogaBoo
2. The network connection can convert to a crossover cable - such a simple thing that no one had done before.
Part of the 1000BASE-T standard.
Didn't know that, are most of the laptop manufacturer's adopting it as soon as Apple?

I thought all new dells come with it now? I"m pretty sure the desktops do, not sure about the laptops.
 

Shawn

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I have no problem using the edge of the touchpad to scroll. I'm sure it could be made to work with 2 fingers if someone bothered to write the software.
 

her209

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Originally posted by: AgaBoogaBoo
Originally posted by: her209
Originally posted by: AgaBoogaBoo
2. The network connection can convert to a crossover cable - such a simple thing that no one had done before.
Part of the 1000BASE-T standard.
Didn't know that, are most of the laptop manufacturer's adopting it as soon as Apple?
I dunno, when did it first appear on the Apple laptops? The earliest that I found that was on the Dell Latitudes back in 2003.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dell_Latitude
 

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"Hi, I'm a PC"
"And I'm a Mac"
...

"And I'm an Apple IIGS, I was better than the Mac's of my day, and backwards compatible, but Apple refused to sell me."
 

daveymark

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iphone has an atmospheric sensor in the earpiece that turns the screen off when the sensor is in close proximity to your ear. This saves battery life while on the phone.
 

jamesave

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Their design is a beauty.

However, it may not be a new thing. Steve jobs have the ability of getting a mundane item into a design worthy materials. To me, that's visionary. The interface on their products are really simple. That can be said about PCs. PC designs are pretty much "logical".

The magnetic power cord is actually not new. I have a japanese water boiler that that has that feature. I bought it ~3 years ago. I don't know why they would put it into an immobile appliance..
 

daveymark

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Originally posted by: jamesave
I have a japanese water boiler that that has that feature. I bought it ~3 years ago. I don't know why they would put it into an immobile appliance..

because if someone trips over the cord, the hot liquid inside would be all over the place
 

AgaBoogaBoo

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Originally posted by: daveymark
iphone has an atmospheric sensor in the earpiece that turns the screen off when the sensor is in close proximity to your ear. This saves battery life while on the phone.
That's exactly what I'm talking about - it's simple and obvious places where they do things better, I just wish their GUI was a bit simpler and I'd be an Apple whore. There needs to be a middle ground between Microsoft software and Apple software, but when it comes to hardware, elegance, and simplicity outside of software, I have to say that Apple has it perfected.
 

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Originally posted by: daveymark
Originally posted by: jamesave
I have a japanese water boiler that that has that feature. I bought it ~3 years ago. I don't know why they would put it into an immobile appliance..

because if someone trips over the cord, the hot liquid inside would be all over the place

Not much different from the fiery MacBook Pro's :)
 

AgaBoogaBoo

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Originally posted by: chuckywang
Originally posted by: AgaBoogaBoo
2. The network connection can convert to a crossover cable - such a simple thing that no one had done before.

What does this mean?
If you use a network cable, but plug it into another computer instead of a router/switch, it will logically switch those two lines around making it identical to a crossover cable. You need a crossover cable to connect two computers directly to each other.
 

eLiu

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Originally posted by: AgaBoogaBoo
I've always held Apple as being the company to come up with new products and in a way, change the industry because others follow.

I'm probably a little late to this, and I'm sure it's a repost, but their laptops for example, are amazing.

1. The power cord is magnetic and so if someone trips on it, it's not as big of a deal.
2. The network connection can convert to a crossover cable - such a simple thing that no one had done before.
3. To scroll on a page, rather than using the edge of the trackpad, you use two fingers instead of one along the edge.
4. The screen's brightness level automatically adjusts to the lighting conditions - not really a big thing because Dell has it on a lot of their products, but still nice

If you pick up a Dell laptop, you won't find points 1-3 at all.

What else has Apple done that I haven't noticed yet or are these the biggest hardware points?

When you pick up a Dell laptop, you will however find a right mouse button...

Also, if you go for an IBM laptop, you will also find a middle click/scroll button (along with the edge of the touchpad scroll) AND the trackpoint (nipple)!

I agree that 1-3 are nice, but I'd much rather have a few extra mouse buttons. And well, laptop use just wouldn't be the same without the trackpoint. I love that thing on my IBM T-series. I never use the touchpad.
 

AgaBoogaBoo

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Originally posted by: eLiu
Originally posted by: AgaBoogaBoo
I've always held Apple as being the company to come up with new products and in a way, change the industry because others follow.

I'm probably a little late to this, and I'm sure it's a repost, but their laptops for example, are amazing.

1. The power cord is magnetic and so if someone trips on it, it's not as big of a deal.
2. The network connection can convert to a crossover cable - such a simple thing that no one had done before.
3. To scroll on a page, rather than using the edge of the trackpad, you use two fingers instead of one along the edge.
4. The screen's brightness level automatically adjusts to the lighting conditions - not really a big thing because Dell has it on a lot of their products, but still nice

If you pick up a Dell laptop, you won't find points 1-3 at all.

What else has Apple done that I haven't noticed yet or are these the biggest hardware points?

When you pick up a Dell laptop, you will however find a right mouse button...

Also, if you go for an IBM laptop, you will also find a middle click/scroll button (along with the edge of the touchpad scroll) AND the trackpoint (nipple)!

I agree that 1-3 are nice, but I'd much rather have a few extra mouse buttons. And well, laptop use just wouldn't be the same without the trackpoint. I love that thing on my IBM T-series. I never use the touchpad.
Dell Latitudes have both a touchpad and trackpoint :)

I hate the touchpad myself, but thought that their methods were pretty innovative, and I would rather prefer a right click. I wish Apple made a product for those of us in the middle of both camps with a right click, trackpoint, etc.
 

AgaBoogaBoo

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Originally posted by: Rubycon
Originally posted by: AgaBoogaBoo
Originally posted by: chuckywang
Originally posted by: AgaBoogaBoo
2. The network connection can convert to a crossover cable - such a simple thing that no one had done before.

What does this mean?
If you use a network cable, but plug it into another computer instead of a router/switch, it will logically switch those two lines around making it identical to a crossover cable. You need a crossover cable to connect two computers directly to each other.

WTH?

All of my peripherals have been that way since 2003. As mentioned before it's a standard with 1000mbit connections. So if it's 1000mbit/s capable OR marked "auto crossover" like netgear switches (even their 100mbit/s switches do this) then NO crossover cables are required. They are the devil because most folks just pick up one and plug it in and scream when they have no link insisting it's a wiring issue!
You could be right, I guess I haven't seen it on laptops or talked about before.