Where's the outrage against Randy Rhodes?

[Crimson]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Crimson

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Crimson

Originally posted by: Rainsford

Exactly. I'll save my outrage for people with power and ability to carry out their threats. This is like listening to what drunks on the subway are blathering about.

I doubt many people thought Timothy McVeigh was serious either.. did he have power or influence?

Who knew of McViegh to decide whether he was serious or not? WTF kind of analogy is that?

I'm suggesting that Air America doesn't have a lot of listeners.
Who knew of this radio host either? It is Air America after all, McVeigh probably had more listeners.

Are you suggesting that Americans are more intune with anti-Goverment Militias or is that just from your perspective?

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: Crimson

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Crimson

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Crimson

Originally posted by: Rainsford

Exactly. I'll save my outrage for people with power and ability to carry out their threats. This is like listening to what drunks on the subway are blathering about.

I doubt many people thought Timothy McVeigh was serious either.. did he have power or influence?

Who knew of McViegh to decide whether he was serious or not? WTF kind of analogy is that?

I'm suggesting that Air America doesn't have a lot of listeners.
Who knew of this radio host either? It is Air America after all, McVeigh probably had more listeners.

Are you suggesting that Americans are more intune with anti-Goverment Militias or is that just from your perspective?

Is there an echo in here?

 

[Crimson]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Crimson

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Riprorin
Because people expect that kind of behavior from liberals.

And intelligent people would expect a comment like yours from weak minded buffoons. Funny how your colors show when you aren't quoting somebody else.

There are idiots on both sides of the political spectrum as Rhodes and Rip demonstrate. Should we pigienhole all those with opinions different than ours with the likes of them?

Can you avoid the personal attacks? That seems to be what you resort to when you are losing an argument.

What argument am I losing? I agree with you that Rhodes is wrong.

Why do you need to single out and attack Rip then? What did that add to the conversation other than to flame? I've gotten banned for less.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: Crimson

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Crimson

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Riprorin
Because people expect that kind of behavior from liberals.

And intelligent people would expect a comment like yours from weak minded buffoons. Funny how your colors show when you aren't quoting somebody else.

There are idiots on both sides of the political spectrum as Rhodes and Rip demonstrate. Should we pigienhole all those with opinions different than ours with the likes of them?

Can you avoid the personal attacks? That seems to be what you resort to when you are losing an argument.

What argument am I losing? I agree with you that Rhodes is wrong.

Why do you need to single out and attack Rip then? What did that add to the conversation other than to flame? I've gotten banned for less.

Because he went out of his way to state that all Liberals are of the same mind as Rhodes. Even you would recognize the idiocy of that statement.

 

[Gaard]

Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
Rhodes didn't make the bit and she didn't like it. She's apologized for it profusely.

Is this true? Crimson? Comment?


That's it.. I'm out..

 

[judasmachine]

Another nut with his own radio show go figure. He is NOT however a member of Congress advocating radicalism.

 

[CocoMunkee]

Originally posted by: Crimson

Originally posted by: conjur
Paraphrasing Randi:

giving the secret service her address if they want to talk to her
whose source are you quoting she asks drudge
robert novak? LOL
she didn't think it was funny and takes full responsibility
said people called to tell her about the story

I assume you're quoting a drudge story? :roll:

You have information indicating that the story is false? I figured you would dismiss the story.. Like I said, imagine if it was Rush Limbaugh doing this to a democrat, you would be freaking out.

Word!:thumbsup:

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: dahunan
Could you just imagine the Rip and Crimmy show? Wow...

I don't know who this Rhodes guy is but there should be a Conjur & Dave Radio Show.

 

[Tab]

Have you had a reality check? The "right" blows everything out of proportion just as much as the "left" does. You know about that country that hasn't really done anything wrong in the last 10 years? I heard they could be harboring terrorists. They could have had weapons of mass destruction. They had them in the past. Let's invade just to make sure. Obivously, Saddam would be nice if we asked him just to walk around in his country and look at stuff... He isn't therefore he must be hiding weapons of mass destruction!

Bush's Social Security plan doesn't really fix anything but it doesn't really destroy anything. His tax cuts are giving money to those who are extremely rich. I know going into Iraq was NOT for WMDs and it was NOT to free an oppressed people either. There are ties to Haliburton and denying it is simply letting your own personal bias overcome your perception of the facts.

You're sterotypical view of the left is a bunch of people asking for death of president. Personally, I could care less if he died. I'd find it pleasing if he died a slow and extremely painfull death after he gets out of office. I won't be advocating that we start a revolution and kill the president. Things aren't that great but it's not like there really good either.

You're an idiot. You can't seem to comprehend that fact that ATPN doesn't consitute the entire "left". Micheal Moore and this Randy Rhodes do not represent me or my liberal friends. Maybe you're just incapable of comprehending that fact that there are smart people on the liberal side and that we couldn't be possibly correct about abortion or pro-activly invading countries.

I don't care about some 50 year old druggie that screams and rants on his own talkshow. I don't care or know why Rush is somehow is the spotlight and Randy isn't. Delay is a hypocritical and corrupt fvck. You claim that some democrats have done the same. Well show me evidence that they have, and I'll advocate that they should be in the same jail cell as Delay.

 

[Harvey]

Originally posted by: Crimson
You have information indicating that the story is false? I figured you would dismiss the story.. Like I said, imagine if it was Rush Limbaugh doing this to a democrat, you would be freaking out.

I just googled a number of direct quotes of sections of your quote, and found nothing. Do you have any information indicating the story is true?

And yes, it's a serious question. I don't approve of such public references from any side of the political spectrum.

 

[Riprorin]

Originally posted by: Crimson

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Crimson

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Riprorin
Because people expect that kind of behavior from liberals.

And intelligent people would expect a comment like yours from weak minded buffoons. Funny how your colors show when you aren't quoting somebody else.

There are idiots on both sides of the political spectrum as Rhodes and Rip demonstrate. Should we pigienhole all those with opinions different than ours with the likes of them?

Can you avoid the personal attacks? That seems to be what you resort to when you are losing an argument.

What argument am I losing? I agree with you that Rhodes is wrong.

Why do you need to single out and attack Rip then? What did that add to the conversation other than to flame? I've gotten banned for less.

I think it's called a double standard.

 

[ntdz]

Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
Rhodes didn't make the bit and she didn't like it. She's apologized for it profusely.

She did go through with it however, so it didn't bother her that much.

 

[Tab]

Originally posted by: ntdz

Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
Rhodes didn't make the bit and she didn't like it. She's apologized for it profusely.

She did go through with it however, so it didn't bother her that much.

She did go throught with, but it bothered her enough to know what she was was wrong. She said it publicly on her own radioshow.

 

[Gaard]

Originally posted by: Riprorin

Originally posted by: Crimson

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Crimson

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Riprorin
Because people expect that kind of behavior from liberals.

And intelligent people would expect a comment like yours from weak minded buffoons. Funny how your colors show when you aren't quoting somebody else.

There are idiots on both sides of the political spectrum as Rhodes and Rip demonstrate. Should we pigienhole all those with opinions different than ours with the likes of them?

Can you avoid the personal attacks? That seems to be what you resort to when you are losing an argument.

What argument am I losing? I agree with you that Rhodes is wrong.

Why do you need to single out and attack Rip then? What did that add to the conversation other than to flame? I've gotten banned for less.

I think it's called a double standard.

Possibly. But everything he said is true.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: Riprorin
Because people expect that kind of behavior from liberals.

Just like Lies and Religious Agenda expected from the Republicans.

 

[Crimson]

Originally posted by: Gaard

Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
Rhodes didn't make the bit and she didn't like it. She's apologized for it profusely.

Is this true? Crimson? Comment?


That's it.. I'm out..

Supposidly.. but it aired as part of her show.. ignorance is no excuse for something like that.. producers etc had to approve it.

 

[Crimson]

Originally posted by: Harvey

Originally posted by: Crimson
You have information indicating that the story is false? I figured you would dismiss the story.. Like I said, imagine if it was Rush Limbaugh doing this to a democrat, you would be freaking out.

I just googled a number of direct quots of sections of your quote, and found nothing. Do you have any information indicating the story is true?

And yes, it's a serious question. I don't approve of such public references from any side of the political spectrum.

Uhh, the HOST of the show came out an apologized for it.. Are you suggesting she is apologizing for something that never occured?

 

[randym431]

Jessy Helms vs Bill Clinton
So THIS is worse?

 

[Rainsford]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Crimson

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Crimson

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Riprorin
Because people expect that kind of behavior from liberals.

And intelligent people would expect a comment like yours from weak minded buffoons. Funny how your colors show when you aren't quoting somebody else.

There are idiots on both sides of the political spectrum as Rhodes and Rip demonstrate. Should we pigienhole all those with opinions different than ours with the likes of them?

Can you avoid the personal attacks? That seems to be what you resort to when you are losing an argument.

What argument am I losing? I agree with you that Rhodes is wrong.

Why do you need to single out and attack Rip then? What did that add to the conversation other than to flame? I've gotten banned for less.

Because he went out of his way to state that all Liberals are of the same mind as Rhodes. Even you would recognize the idiocy of that statement.

I think it might be necessary to PM this to Crimson, as he seems determined to ignore what exactly people have a problem with in this thread.

 

[Tab]

Crimson, I'd like a comment on my post above... It's directed at you...

 

[Darkhawk28]

Originally posted by: Crimson

Originally posted by: Gaard

Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
Rhodes didn't make the bit and she didn't like it. She's apologized for it profusely.

Is this true? Crimson? Comment?


That's it.. I'm out..

Supposidly.. but it aired as part of her show.. ignorance is no excuse for something like that.. producers etc had to approve it.

She's on the road in Florida and the bit was made in New York. She doesn't even hear the bit until it goes on the air. Her reaction to it live was that it was bad.

 

[Riprorin]

I thought that personal attacks aren't tolerated here?

I'd be interested in a clarification of the policy.

 

[Darkhawk28]

Originally posted by: Crimson

Originally posted by: Gaard

Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
Rhodes didn't make the bit and she didn't like it. She's apologized for it profusely.

Is this true? Crimson? Comment?


That's it.. I'm out..

Supposidly.. but it aired as part of her show.. ignorance is no excuse for something like that.. producers etc had to approve it.

You know what? She's said exactly what you just said. She said that it was her name on the show and that ignorance wasn't an excuse and that the buck stopped with her. She also she that although she didn't make the bit or even hear it before it came on the air, she felt compelled to apologize profusely. She's a loudmouth, yes, but not a violent loudmouth.

 

[Rainsford]

Originally posted by: Crimson

Originally posted by: Rainsford

Originally posted by: Crimson
No surprise there is no outrage over this from the left.. They flip out over Delay's comments toward judges, but completely IGNORE outright supporting of MURDER of the president of the United States over SOCIAL SECURITY REFORM!!

The announcer: "A spoiled child is telling us our Social Security isn't safe anymore, so he is going to fix it for us. Well, here's your answer, you ungrateful whelp: [audio sound of 4 gunshots being fired.] Just try it, you little bastard. [audio of gun being cocked]."

Imagine if Rush Limbaugh would have done something like this against Clinton.. This is just so over the top, and shows where mainstream liberalism has gone. I expect there will be no outrage on P&N over this.

For those who don't know, Randy Rhodes is a liberal talk show host on the Air America Network.

Are you an idiot?

I personally didn't get all outraged because until this whiney thread, I didn't hear about it. Unlike some people, I have better things to do that spend my day keeping track of what every two bit radio idiot says. And for the record, I think the radio person IS stupid, that's a stupid thing to say. But have you listened to some of the radio people? This isn't too far out of the mainstream for them. They certainly don't represent the mainstream of any political segment of the population. Comparing this to something Delay says is beyond stupid, because the outrage at what Delay said comes from the fact that he is an actual government official, with actual power and support who is behaving like an idiot. I personally wouldn't care what he said if he was just some half-baked radio personality. I can't imagine you aren't capable of seeing the distinction.

As for you being an idiot...let's look at the train of thought here. One liberal talk show host makes a comment about shooting the President. Liberals don't let you know how outraged they may or may not be. Therefore, mainstream liberalism is "over the top". That's just some great work. Not to mention the added "bonus" of comparing comments made by some hack talk show host and an elected representative. You are just on a roll today.

Here's the problem, you're not an idiot. But you see the left as evil, so anything ANY lefty says that's bad is immediatly considered the position of everyone on the left. While someone who doesn't have his panties in a wad will realize that there are fringe wackos out there and not worry about it.

Have you READ the P&N forum lately? All it is, is the left taking every little thing Bush does and blowing it WAY out of purportion. If he introduces a Social Security plan he is stealing your money, if he introduces a tax cut he is giving money to the rich, if he introduces an energy bill he is giving in to Haliburton.. if he goes into Iraq its a war for oil, if he doesn't go into Africa its because they don't have oil, if he threatens counties who harbor terrorists, he's called a war monger, if he ignores threats he accused of ignoring the evidence.. if he threatens Korea he is a cowboy, if he doesn't deal with Korea he is ignoring a magman with nukes.. Cheney is the real one running the show.. no, Haliburton is, no Rumsfeld is, no Rice is.. No Bush is..

Its all one big fvcking liberal circle jerk on ANYTHING he does. All I am asking for is a little consistency from the left. This is what the left is turning into it, a group of people who think the DEATH of President Bush is an appropriate response to SOCIAL SECURITY reform.. THINK about that for a second.. _DEATH_ for Social Security..

But yes, *I* am the one over the top and the idiot.. The right wingers are the extremists because we think abortion is bad and being proactive against terrorists is important.. Rush Limbaugh gets addicted to pain killers and its a story for MONTHS, liberals saying "SEE! SEE! He is a hypocrite!!" The liberal commentators joke about killing the President, and "It was just a joke, they don't have any influence and didn't mean it anyway".

Death to Bush, Death to Christians, Death to Conservatives.. Thats pretty much the liberal line these days.

So, I must be an idiot.. because no, I don't understand why people like Rush Limbaugh are held to different standards as Randy Rhodes.. I don't understand why a conservative talk show host is BLASTED for getting addicted to painkillers, but a liberal one is excused for suggesting we kill the President because of Social Security. I don't understand why liberals are trying to get Delay thrown out of Congress with DOZENS of democrats have done the same thing as him, and the worst offenders are democats. I don't understand why conservative judges are being labeled radicals when there is clearly no evidence for denying them the bench.

Like I said, if this was a conservative radio host, people would being going APESH|T in this forum over it. And to say otherwise is to just be lying to yourself. Hold your own people to the same standards you would your opposition..

The bolded sentences are exactly what I'm talking about. The only people who say that are the radicals, mostly people like idiot radio people who can't really be shown to have a great deal of liberal support on their ideas. Instead of admitting as much, you find it necessary to lump us all in with people like that. And the worst part is, there is no reason for it. From the very first post in this thread you were attacking all liberals everywhere, like that idiot on the radio was speaking in our collective voice. Take a look at the first statement I bolded. Now find me ANYTHING to suggest that is true, that this idea is supported by the left. One radio show doesn't count, by the way.

And you're wrong about how I would react to a conservative radio host doing the same thing. I would think they are stupid and probably shouldn't be saying things like that. I would probably get pretty mad, because things like that are what make real compromise impossible. What I wouldn't do is claim that person represented all conservatives and go on a rant about how conservatives were a bunch of radicals.

I don't think you're seeing the point here. I don't have a problem with getting upset over someone making a comment about killing the president over social security. Hell, I agree that this was a stupid thing to say. I don't think killing ANYONE is an appropriate way of solving problems in our country. I am in no way supporting or excusing what the radio host said. I don't think I can make it any clearer than that. What I take exception to is that you are arguing that the radio host speaks for the entire left, without one shred of evidence to back up your claim. That is the problem here. I agree that people can blow things out of proportion when it comes to ripping on Bush. I agree that Delay is probably not the only unethical person in Congress. I agree that there is a double standard (on BOTH sides) when it comes to things "our guys" do.

I don't agree with generalizing the entire left based off of nothing more than the actions of one random moron. Just so we're clear, I'll ask you point blank. Do you think the majority, or even a significant percentage, of lefties (between 20% and 30% of voters remember) or people who just don't like Bush (49% of voters) or disagree with him on Social Security would agree that killing him is an appropriate way to deal with the issue? I for one find it unbelievable that you will come back and say that you think millions of Americans think killing the president over the social security issue is a good idea, or have no problem with the idea. But I've been surprised before.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: nutxo

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Hell until I saw the doc "The Making of Air America" last night the only Randy Rhodes I was familiar with was the late great Guitar Player from Ozzie Osbourne's band. IMO she's just some hysterical bitch along the lines of Ann Coulter.

Randy was somethign else wasnt he?

Yeah he was. It's a shame this stupid Bitch has a similiar name as he was great where as she's just an idiot.

Didn't he do something solo or in another project at one point? Seems I remember something of that in the late 80s or so.