Where's Osama?

techs

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The biggest mass murderer in U.S. history. The number one enemy of this country.
Are we even looking for him?
 

Genx87

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Originally posted by: techs
The biggest mass murderer in U.S. history. The number one enemy of this country.
Are we even looking for him?

No, we just stuck 18000 troops in Afghanistan and run patrols on a daily basis for training purposes.
 

Steeplerot

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18k for a mountanious tunnel ridden country........ :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

you might as well call them what they are..the imperial guard for our US oil stooge
 

Moonbeam

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Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: techs
The biggest mass murderer in U.S. history. The number one enemy of this country.
Are we even looking for him?

No, we just stuck 18000 troops in Afghanistan and run patrols on a daily basis for training purposes.
Wouldn't it be safer and as effective to search Antarctica?

 

Genx87

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Originally posted by: Steeplerot
18k for a mountanious tunnel ridden country........ :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

How many do you suggest then?

 

Steeplerot

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Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: Steeplerot
18k for a mountanious tunnel ridden country........ :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

How many do you suggest then?



a immediate evactuation of your head from your ass before you post proudly about 18k imperialist poppy herders...
 

conjur

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I think the left is suggesting we invade Pakistan. Warmongers.
Would have made more sense than Iraq. Pakistan was actually harboring terrorists and *gasp* they have WMDs!
 

EatSpam

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Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: techs
The biggest mass murderer in U.S. history. The number one enemy of this country.
Are we even looking for him?

No, we just stuck 18000 troops in Afghanistan and run patrols on a daily basis for training purposes.

That's like having 1 cop to patrol NYC. But that's ok since it provides the perception that we care about finding Bin Laden, at least to Republican sheep.
 

Genx87

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: techs
The biggest mass murderer in U.S. history. The number one enemy of this country.
Are we even looking for him?

No, we just stuck 18000 troops in Afghanistan and run patrols on a daily basis for training purposes.
Wouldn't it be safer and as effective to search Antarctica?

Lots of AQ hiding out in Antartica?
 

Genx87

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Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: Steeplerot
18k for a mountanious tunnel ridden country........ :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

How many do you suggest then?



a immediate evactuation of your head from your ass before you post proudly about 18k imperialist poppy herders...

What a well thought out reply.

 

Genx87

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Originally posted by: EatSpam
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: techs
The biggest mass murderer in U.S. history. The number one enemy of this country.
Are we even looking for him?

No, we just stuck 18000 troops in Afghanistan and run patrols on a daily basis for training purposes.

That's like having 1 cop to patrol NYC. But that's ok since it provides the perception that we care about finding Bin Laden, at least to Republican sheep.

If the administration didnt care then those 18000 would be in Iraq.

 
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Originally posted by: Genx87

If the administration didnt care then those 18000 would be in Iraq.


Are those 18,000 troops even looking for him? My understanding is that we pretty much know he is in Pakistan, and, after all, President Bush has specifically said he doesn't care where bin Laden is.

Given that Afghanistan's opium production has increased fifteenfold from what it was under the Taliban, it begs the question of what exactly the US troops there ARE doing.
 

Todd33

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Originally posted by: techs
The biggest mass murderer in U.S. history. The number one enemy of this country.
Are we even looking for him?

He's hiding in a Muslem country that has WMDs.
 

Genx87

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Originally posted by: DonVito
Originally posted by: Genx87

If the administration didnt care then those 18000 would be in Iraq.


Are those 18,000 troops even looking for him? My understanding is that we pretty much know he is in Pakistan, and, after all, President Bush has specifically said he doesn't care where bin Laden is.

Given that Afghanistan's opium production has increased fifteenfold from what it was under the Taliban, it begs the question of what exactly the US troops there ARE doing.

I keep hearing about the Chinook going down in mountain areas while fighting remnants of the Taliban and AQ. I dont think they are up in the mountains for a picture taking mission.

As for the opium production. I have always wondered how people come up with that conclusion. Was the Taliban cataloging opium production and then submitting their results to some regulating body? It is kind of like the people who claim terrorism recruiting is on the rise. Based on what? Do terrorist organizations keep personel record in their HR dept for each year the organization was in business?

If so where can I get their internal records for my viewing. It would be nice to get the name and person of everybody who is being recruited or already within each organization.





 
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Originally posted by: Genx87

As for the opium production. I have always wondered how people come up with that conclusion. Was the Taliban cataloging opium production and then submitting their results to some regulating body? It is kind of like the people who claim terrorism recruiting is on the rise. Based on what? Do terrorist organizations keep personel record in their HR dept for each year the organization was in business?

If so where can I get their internal records for my viewing. It would be nice to get the name and person of everybody who is being recruited or already within each organization.

Read and learn.
 

Todd33

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They are not looking for anyone, they are trying to hold the country together. They had to fly voting booths in by chopper, the roads were not safe. If you didn't havce those 18,000 then the country would be under Taliban rule again in weeks.

BTW Genx, just because you don't understand something, doesn't mean it's untrue. Dig a little deeper.
 

Genx87

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Originally posted by: Todd33
They are not looking for anyone, they are trying to hold the country together. They had to fly voting booths in by chopper, the roads were not safe. If you didn't havce those 18,000 then the country would be under Taliban rule again in weeks.

BTW Genx, just because you don't understand something, doesn't mean it's untrue. Dig a little deeper.

You honestly believe we have 18K troops sitting there not patrolling the pakistani border?
I suggest you take a dose of your own medicine.
 

IronWing

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Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: DonVito
Originally posted by: Genx87

If the administration didnt care then those 18000 would be in Iraq.


Are those 18,000 troops even looking for him? My understanding is that we pretty much know he is in Pakistan, and, after all, President Bush has specifically said he doesn't care where bin Laden is.

Given that Afghanistan's opium production has increased fifteenfold from what it was under the Taliban, it begs the question of what exactly the US troops there ARE doing.

I keep hearing about the Chinook going down in mountain areas while fighting remnants of the Taliban and AQ. I dont think they are up in the mountains for a picture taking mission.

As for the opium production. I have always wondered how people come up with that conclusion. Was the Taliban cataloging opium production and then submitting their results to some regulating body? It is kind of like the people who claim terrorism recruiting is on the rise. Based on what? Do terrorist organizations keep personel record in their HR dept for each year the organization was in business?

If so where can I get their internal records for my viewing. It would be nice to get the name and person of everybody who is being recruited or already within each organization.


The Bush administration was confident enough in the poppy production numbers to give the Taliban a big bag on money to thank them for their anti-drug efforts.
 

alchemize

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Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: alchemize
I think the left is suggesting we invade Pakistan. Warmongers.
Would have made more sense than Iraq. Pakistan was actually harboring terrorists and *gasp* they have WMDs!

So you are going on the record here that you think it makes sense to invade Pakistan to get Bin Laden?

Oh, no you're just whining and not providing solutions as usual.
 
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Originally posted by: alchemize

So you are going on the record here that you think it makes sense to invade Pakistan to get Bin Laden?

Oh, no you're just whining and not providing solutions as usual.

In turn, just out of curiosity, do you share President Bush's opinion that it doesn't matter whether we capture or kill bin Laden?

I for one was startled by that statement, and I can't help but think his sentiment informs the relative lack of urgency we've placed on this strategic goal.
 

Genx87

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Originally posted by: DonVito
Originally posted by: Genx87

As for the opium production. I have always wondered how people come up with that conclusion. Was the Taliban cataloging opium production and then submitting their results to some regulating body? It is kind of like the people who claim terrorism recruiting is on the rise. Based on what? Do terrorist organizations keep personel record in their HR dept for each year the organization was in business?

If so where can I get their internal records for my viewing. It would be nice to get the name and person of everybody who is being recruited or already within each organization.

Read and learn.

Thanks for the link, reading it right now. One thing Ill make a note on is the production numbers per this document dont seem to jive with your 15 fold comment. Unless Afghanistan is pushing out nearly 75000 metric tons a year now?





 

conjur

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Originally posted by: alchemize
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: alchemize
I think the left is suggesting we invade Pakistan. Warmongers.
Would have made more sense than Iraq. Pakistan was actually harboring terrorists and *gasp* they have WMDs!

So you are going on the record here that you think it makes sense to invade Pakistan to get Bin Laden?

Oh, no you're just whining and not providing solutions as usual.
I'm merely pointing out that if this administration wanted to invade someone, there were other options more fitting than was Iraq. (The best option being to finish the job in Afghanistan.)


Oh wait....the other countries didn't have oil. Well, except for Iran. But Iran wasn't the low-hanging fruit, was it?
 

tommywishbone

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We have absolutely no idea where he is. The rich are getting richer, and the poor are getting poorer, and that's all that matters to those in charge. The end.
 
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Originally posted by: Genx87


Thanks for the link, reading it right now. One thing Ill make a note on is the production numbers per this document dont seem to jive with your 15 fold comment. Unless Afghanistan is pushing out nearly 75000 metric tons a year now?

If anything I understated it. In 2001, under the Taliban, they produced 185 metric tons, then in 2002 it went up to 3,422. I believe it's currently around 4,000/year.