Where to get medical help for a teen?

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: thecoolnessrune

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: ShadowOfMyself

Originally posted by: alkemyst
it has to do with I think you are hanging around chicks too young for you offering wisdom you don't have.

How about focusing on the matter at hand instead of attacking the poster

Seriously, I hate the age argument... Everyone matures at a different age, its just impossible to compare, just because at 18 you might have been inexperienced and naive doesnt make it so that someone else is/was as well

Also her parents seem to be the irresponsible ones, not him, at least hes trying to help some... The whole pedo thing is also blown out of proportions, you cant help someone just because they are underaged? give me a break!

I have already answered that part of it. He needs to get her an impartial professional to assist.

At 18, there is no way he is a capable nutritionist nor able to make medical deductions of someone else by playing telephone game with one of his teachers.

To me in my opinion and seeing some of the posters other discussions, he is playing with fire...there is obviously an ulterior motive.

Even in his last post he basically claims to hate people, yet something about this 14 year old caught his eye enough to see her without much clothes on during winter.

To coolness...where have I been ever shown wrong in a statement I have made here that wasn't someone focusing on a typo?

Also you seem to know a lot more about both the 14yo and your professor than most would gather through casual discussion. Wisdom would have been to send HER to someone, not you guessing her symptoms..etc. Your professor offering to treat her as such was equally doing a disservice esp. offering treatment as a doctor to a patient they never saw.

I honestly find your post disheartening, and I dont usually feel that way.. Damn these allergies..

First of all, I find your comment about her offensive, considering that I have a girlfriend who I care deeply for, and as I'm certain you've seen from me by now, would never ever ever, consider cheating on my girl. You should also know (and i'm certain shadow does) that I have *extremely* high standards on the visual appearance of a woman, and I abhor the advent of anything low cut, halter topped, boy short, anything of that nature. I would NEVER do anything as disgraceful as to try to cop a look at a girl I have no romantic attachment to. I found out through her bf who happens to be a very close friend of mine. He was worried about her and he is not one to worry. *If* he is worried then I know there must be some reason to. I would NEVER look at any girl except my gf in such a manner and I would *especially* never consider my best friends girl as a candidate. The thought of that is sickening.

I don't like people, and am thoroughly disgusted by people such as you, who themselves don't have a clue about things such as decency and maturity, who say that love can only be achieved after having sex with 15 girls and being at least 30 years old. I lived my life being far above my age group in maturity, and I continue to be the biggest party pooper of my generation and I honestly love it. Just because I dont oogle the latest coed cheerleaders does not mean I don't understand what love is, or have the desire to help someone whom I think needs it.

And what the hell is wrong with enjoying the company of my professor? She has been a wonderful educational benefit to me and one of the few people I can get along with. Of course I have no romantic attachment to her, the woman is in her 50's and lets face it, after 3 wars as a combat medic, you aren't going to look like Miss America either. She is just a wonderful person to be with for conversation and learning. Why does it have to be more than that?

You know as well as I do my gf is young, but that has nothing to do with the current situation and you know it. What about sending the girl to somone? For a diet plan? Oh, so I suppose that means Richard Simmons and Jenny Craig are illegal and immoral too right? My professor knows just as much about vegetarianism as most doctors and was plenty capable of helping to show her things to eat to achieve complete proteins etc.

The school counselor is what I'm going to try to push for. If anyone wishes to continue discussion they are free to, including you alchy..

Never said one had to be 30 nor you were having an affair with your professor.

The thing is which you are not getting because you want to keep this girl attached to you is that your professor or anyone more qualified cannot help the girl at all with you as just a messenger.

She needs to do this on her own and 14 year old girls aren't what an 18 yo should be hanging out with...esp one that is catering to their us against the world/I hate everyone attitude, but I think you know what you are doing.

 

[thecoolnessrune]

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: thecoolnessrune

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: ShadowOfMyself

Originally posted by: alkemyst
it has to do with I think you are hanging around chicks too young for you offering wisdom you don't have.

How about focusing on the matter at hand instead of attacking the poster

Seriously, I hate the age argument... Everyone matures at a different age, its just impossible to compare, just because at 18 you might have been inexperienced and naive doesnt make it so that someone else is/was as well

Also her parents seem to be the irresponsible ones, not him, at least hes trying to help some... The whole pedo thing is also blown out of proportions, you cant help someone just because they are underaged? give me a break!

I have already answered that part of it. He needs to get her an impartial professional to assist.

At 18, there is no way he is a capable nutritionist nor able to make medical deductions of someone else by playing telephone game with one of his teachers.

To me in my opinion and seeing some of the posters other discussions, he is playing with fire...there is obviously an ulterior motive.

Even in his last post he basically claims to hate people, yet something about this 14 year old caught his eye enough to see her without much clothes on during winter.

To coolness...where have I been ever shown wrong in a statement I have made here that wasn't someone focusing on a typo?

Also you seem to know a lot more about both the 14yo and your professor than most would gather through casual discussion. Wisdom would have been to send HER to someone, not you guessing her symptoms..etc. Your professor offering to treat her as such was equally doing a disservice esp. offering treatment as a doctor to a patient they never saw.

I honestly find your post disheartening, and I dont usually feel that way.. Damn these allergies..

First of all, I find your comment about her offensive, considering that I have a girlfriend who I care deeply for, and as I'm certain you've seen from me by now, would never ever ever, consider cheating on my girl. You should also know (and i'm certain shadow does) that I have *extremely* high standards on the visual appearance of a woman, and I abhor the advent of anything low cut, halter topped, boy short, anything of that nature. I would NEVER do anything as disgraceful as to try to cop a look at a girl I have no romantic attachment to. I found out through her bf who happens to be a very close friend of mine. He was worried about her and he is not one to worry. *If* he is worried then I know there must be some reason to. I would NEVER look at any girl except my gf in such a manner and I would *especially* never consider my best friends girl as a candidate. The thought of that is sickening.

I don't like people, and am thoroughly disgusted by people such as you, who themselves don't have a clue about things such as decency and maturity, who say that love can only be achieved after having sex with 15 girls and being at least 30 years old. I lived my life being far above my age group in maturity, and I continue to be the biggest party pooper of my generation and I honestly love it. Just because I dont oogle the latest coed cheerleaders does not mean I don't understand what love is, or have the desire to help someone whom I think needs it.

And what the hell is wrong with enjoying the company of my professor? She has been a wonderful educational benefit to me and one of the few people I can get along with. Of course I have no romantic attachment to her, the woman is in her 50's and lets face it, after 3 wars as a combat medic, you aren't going to look like Miss America either. She is just a wonderful person to be with for conversation and learning. Why does it have to be more than that?

You know as well as I do my gf is young, but that has nothing to do with the current situation and you know it. What about sending the girl to somone? For a diet plan? Oh, so I suppose that means Richard Simmons and Jenny Craig are illegal and immoral too right? My professor knows just as much about vegetarianism as most doctors and was plenty capable of helping to show her things to eat to achieve complete proteins etc.

The school counselor is what I'm going to try to push for. If anyone wishes to continue discussion they are free to, including you alchy..

Never said one had to be 30 nor you were having an affair with your professor.

The thing is which you are not getting because you want to keep this girl attached to you is that your professor or anyone more qualified cannot help the girl at all with you as just a messenger.

She needs to do this on her own and 14 year old girls aren't what an 18 yo should be hanging out with...esp one that is catering to their us against the world/I hate everyone attitude, but I think you know what you are doing.

That's contradictory to what you've been saying. I'm not catering to an us against the world attitude. Unless being part of the world is bad. I'm just not gonna let her kill herself. I'll call child services before I let her do that. I dont want her attached to me. But I dont want to have to attend her funeral at my best friend's request and have to help him piece his life back together. In the end I'm just selfish. Can't you see I'm just doing it for me?

And THAT, is the American dream

 

[alkemyst]

you need to stop hanging around girls barely in high school once you are out of it...your own g/f included.

It's clear you have found them easy to get them attached to you.

 

[sixone]

Originally posted by: AreaCode707
A school counselor can work with her, her parents, and make the decision to call CPS if things aren't improving. Definitely go there first.

Good advice.

 

[jdobratz]

Originally posted by: thecoolnessrune

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: ShadowOfMyself

Originally posted by: alkemyst
it has to do with I think you are hanging around chicks too young for you offering wisdom you don't have.

How about focusing on the matter at hand instead of attacking the poster

Seriously, I hate the age argument... Everyone matures at a different age, its just impossible to compare, just because at 18 you might have been inexperienced and naive doesnt make it so that someone else is/was as well

Also her parents seem to be the irresponsible ones, not him, at least hes trying to help some... The whole pedo thing is also blown out of proportions, you cant help someone just because they are underaged? give me a break!

I have already answered that part of it. He needs to get her an impartial professional to assist.

At 18, there is no way he is a capable nutritionist nor able to make medical deductions of someone else by playing telephone game with one of his teachers.

To me in my opinion and seeing some of the posters other discussions, he is playing with fire...there is obviously an ulterior motive.

Even in his last post he basically claims to hate people, yet something about this 14 year old caught his eye enough to see her without much clothes on during winter.

To coolness...where have I been ever shown wrong in a statement I have made here that wasn't someone focusing on a typo?

Also you seem to know a lot more about both the 14yo and your professor than most would gather through casual discussion. Wisdom would have been to send HER to someone, not you guessing her symptoms..etc. Your professor offering to treat her as such was equally doing a disservice esp. offering treatment as a doctor to a patient they never saw.

I honestly find your post disheartening, and I dont usually feel that way.. Damn these allergies..

First of all, I find your comment about her offensive, considering that I have a girlfriend who I care deeply for, and as I'm certain you've seen from me by now, would never ever ever, consider cheating on my girl. You should also know (and i'm certain shadow does) that I have *extremely* high standards on the visual appearance of a woman, and I abhor the advent of anything low cut, halter topped, boy short, anything of that nature. I would NEVER do anything as disgraceful as to try to cop a look at a girl I have no romantic attachment to. I found out through her bf who happens to be a very close friend of mine. He was worried about her and he is not one to worry. *If* he is worried then I know there must be some reason to. I would NEVER look at any girl except my gf in such a manner and I would *especially* never consider my best friends girl as a candidate. The thought of that is sickening.

I don't like people, and am thoroughly disgusted by people such as you, who themselves don't have a clue about things such as decency and maturity, who say that love can only be achieved after having sex with 15 girls and being at least 30 years old. I lived my life being far above my age group in maturity, and I continue to be the biggest party pooper of my generation and I honestly love it. Just because I dont oogle the latest coed cheerleaders does not mean I don't understand what love is, or have the desire to help someone whom I think needs it.

And what the hell is wrong with enjoying the company of my professor? She has been a wonderful educational benefit to me and one of the few people I can get along with. Of course I have no romantic attachment to her, the woman is in her 50's and lets face it, after 3 wars as a combat medic, you aren't going to look like Miss America either. She is just a wonderful person to be with for conversation and learning. Why does it have to be more than that?

You know as well as I do my gf is young, but that has nothing to do with the current situation and you know it. What about sending the girl to somone? For a diet plan? Oh, so I suppose that means Richard Simmons and Jenny Craig are illegal and immoral too right? My professor knows just as much about vegetarianism as most doctors and was plenty capable of helping to show her things to eat to achieve complete proteins etc.

The school counselor is what I'm going to try to push for. If anyone wishes to continue discussion they are free to, including you alchy..

The arrogance in that post is a real testament to your "maturity."

 

[Yreka]

You need to get her in contact with this guy. Looks like he has it all figured out.

 

[BeauJangles]

Originally posted by: jdobratz
The arrogance in that post is a real testament to your "maturity."

He's 18 and has the world figured out. Don't ruin it for him.

 

[KeithTalent]

Originally posted by: jdobratz

The arrogance in that post is a real testament to your "maturity."

Par for the course from the OP.

KT

Edit: let me say I do commend the OP on trying to help, but be wary of getting too invloved. Definitely get her to a counselor for a start.

 

[dainthomas]

Originally posted by: thecoolnessrune
How can I reverse this path of destruction she's on?

Claimjumper.

 

[thecoolnessrune]

Wow this thing's still goin'. I suppose I'm slightly surprise. Too bad its degenerated into worthlessness. I've gone with the idea of the guidance counselor. The only thing this post is good for now is throwing around insults. I thank BigJ for the initial suggestion, and I also thank the rest of you all that suggested ideas for me to help.

I honestly don't understand some of you people. Because she is underage I'm supposed to ignore her? I suppose I tend to help younger people more because they have a higher percentage rate of being changed. Helping adults is a waste of my time and I'm sure you'll agree. They can be stubborn and let's face it, adults don't listen to 18 year olds because the older generation will always think the younger generation to be inferior. And I know someone will come here and say either "Well it's true!" or "That's not how it is" but yeah, that's how the real world is. The older generation will always think that they know more about any particular thing than the younger generation. So people younger than me are more worth my time. Females doubly so because they are more willing to listen. Males are just as stubborn as teens as they are as adults, and you all know that, it's not like I'm opening your eyes to anything new.

So in light of that, it should be very clear why I'm helping a young female.. In essence, she's a candidate most likely to listen. I'm not romantically involved with her or looking at her naked, that's preposterous.

As for attachment, the only one I'm attached to is my gf. I found her and went for her long before I ever knew her age, but I'm not about to degenerate this like my last thread, I know now the hypocrisy people on the board tend to have when it comes to women. I have no attachment for young women not to mention women in general. Before you disgrace that statement into nothing more than "He's gay!" understand that I have romantic attractions to women, I just don't like how modern women tend to be. I understand I ruffle alot of feathers, and it's probably nothing more than the harshness I tend to exude on people. And if that's the case I mean no harm by it, but I have my own concerns to take care of. I find one or two people every once in a while that maybe I can help, and I really do try. I thought this girl could use the help the most. I'm almost through with it, I've made my suggestions, if she messes herself up later on, I have comfort in knowing that I at least tried to help her instead of taking advantage of her. Is that really so wrong?

Most of you members are so blinded by stereotypes that you would ignore helping someone because of their age or gender? If that really is the case, I feel that humans can't go on for too many more generations, and this thread has certainly done nothing to make me reconsider exactly why I have trouble accepting people..

 

[KeithTalent]

The fact of the matter is, if you are not specifically trained to help someone like this and are not in a licensed program or something along that lines to help these types of younger people, then you are going to be looked at a little strangely and possibly face unfounded accusations (even then you are not entirely safe). This happened to someone very close to me and it almost ruined his life (he was a teacher), so while I will still try and help people as much as I can, my family member's experience has taught me to be very cautious about how I go about doing it.

I'm not saying it's right or good, but that is just the way society works these days.

KT

 

[thecoolnessrune]

I don't understand why people are still harping on the not licensed part.. I mean.. I came here *specifically* asking where I can send her to get help, as she doesn't even know. When she wanted help making a diet for being a vegetarian, I went to someone who knew, and I think you all can understand she's more than qualified enough to give basic information on how to live as a vegetarian. It was nothing more then that, and never has been more than that. It's always been about trying to guide people to the right places to learn what they need to do to stop a problem they've been having.

 

[ITJunkie]

never mind...

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: jdobratz

The arrogance in that post is a real testament to your "maturity."

may have been his allergies.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: thecoolnessrune
Wow this thing's still goin'. I suppose I'm slightly surprise. Too bad its degenerated into worthlessness. I've gone with the idea of the guidance counselor. The only thing this post is good for now is throwing around insults. I thank BigJ for the initial suggestion, and I also thank the rest of you all that suggested ideas for me to help.

I honestly don't understand some of you people. Because she is underage I'm supposed to ignore her? I suppose I tend to help younger people more because they have a higher percentage rate of being changed. Helping adults is a waste of my time and I'm sure you'll agree. They can be stubborn and let's face it, adults don't listen to 18 year olds because the older generation will always think the younger generation to be inferior. And I know someone will come here and say either "Well it's true!" or "That's not how it is" but yeah, that's how the real world is. The older generation will always think that they know more about any particular thing than the younger generation. So people younger than me are more worth my time. Females doubly so because they are more willing to listen. Males are just as stubborn as teens as they are as adults, and you all know that, it's not like I'm opening your eyes to anything new.

So in light of that, it should be very clear why I'm helping a young female.. In essence, she's a candidate most likely to listen. I'm not romantically involved with her or looking at her naked, that's preposterous.

As for attachment, the only one I'm attached to is my gf. I found her and went for her long before I ever knew her age, but I'm not about to degenerate this like my last thread, I know now the hypocrisy people on the board tend to have when it comes to women. I have no attachment for young women not to mention women in general. Before you disgrace that statement into nothing more than "He's gay!" understand that I have romantic attractions to women, I just don't like how modern women tend to be. I understand I ruffle alot of feathers, and it's probably nothing more than the harshness I tend to exude on people. And if that's the case I mean no harm by it, but I have my own concerns to take care of. I find one or two people every once in a while that maybe I can help, and I really do try. I thought this girl could use the help the most. I'm almost through with it, I've made my suggestions, if she messes herself up later on, I have comfort in knowing that I at least tried to help her instead of taking advantage of her. Is that really so wrong?

Most of you members are so blinded by stereotypes that you would ignore helping someone because of their age or gender? If that really is the case, I feel that humans can't go on for too many more generations, and this thread has certainly done nothing to make me reconsider exactly why I have trouble accepting people..

dude, it's because we have all read your past posts and can tell you are not in this for her best interests.

I think you have used the biggest words in your life in this thread.

We see it like it is. You have been hanging around a group that is much younger than you should be and now trying to 'save' one you are interested in.

If you seriously want to help you need to do it by getting her to a third party capable of addressing the situation. It does no good if it's only you going to them and relaying information about her condition which if you were just a casual friend you would not know in it's entireity.

An 18 year old boy should not be the 'role model' for 14 year old girls.

 

[thecoolnessrune]

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: thecoolnessrune
Wow this thing's still goin'. I suppose I'm slightly surprise. Too bad its degenerated into worthlessness. I've gone with the idea of the guidance counselor. The only thing this post is good for now is throwing around insults. I thank BigJ for the initial suggestion, and I also thank the rest of you all that suggested ideas for me to help.

I honestly don't understand some of you people. Because she is underage I'm supposed to ignore her? I suppose I tend to help younger people more because they have a higher percentage rate of being changed. Helping adults is a waste of my time and I'm sure you'll agree. They can be stubborn and let's face it, adults don't listen to 18 year olds because the older generation will always think the younger generation to be inferior. And I know someone will come here and say either "Well it's true!" or "That's not how it is" but yeah, that's how the real world is. The older generation will always think that they know more about any particular thing than the younger generation. So people younger than me are more worth my time. Females doubly so because they are more willing to listen. Males are just as stubborn as teens as they are as adults, and you all know that, it's not like I'm opening your eyes to anything new.

So in light of that, it should be very clear why I'm helping a young female.. In essence, she's a candidate most likely to listen. I'm not romantically involved with her or looking at her naked, that's preposterous.

As for attachment, the only one I'm attached to is my gf. I found her and went for her long before I ever knew her age, but I'm not about to degenerate this like my last thread, I know now the hypocrisy people on the board tend to have when it comes to women. I have no attachment for young women not to mention women in general. Before you disgrace that statement into nothing more than "He's gay!" understand that I have romantic attractions to women, I just don't like how modern women tend to be. I understand I ruffle alot of feathers, and it's probably nothing more than the harshness I tend to exude on people. And if that's the case I mean no harm by it, but I have my own concerns to take care of. I find one or two people every once in a while that maybe I can help, and I really do try. I thought this girl could use the help the most. I'm almost through with it, I've made my suggestions, if she messes herself up later on, I have comfort in knowing that I at least tried to help her instead of taking advantage of her. Is that really so wrong?

Most of you members are so blinded by stereotypes that you would ignore helping someone because of their age or gender? If that really is the case, I feel that humans can't go on for too many more generations, and this thread has certainly done nothing to make me reconsider exactly why I have trouble accepting people..

dude, it's because we have all read your past posts and can tell you are not in this for her best interests.

I think you have used the biggest words in your life in this thread.

We see it like it is. You have been hanging around a group that is much younger than you should be and now trying to 'save' one you are interested in.

If you seriously want to help you need to do it by getting her to a third party capable of addressing the situation. It does no good if it's only you going to them and relaying information about her condition which if you were just a casual friend you would not know in it's entireity.

An 18 year old boy should not be the 'role model' for 14 year old girls.

I can't believe how clueless you are behaving. You asked me earlier for anytime you have been wrong once. Well, I understand no one else will know, but I'll always know that right here, definitively, you are completely out in left field. Of course you won't believe me, but I will always know how wrong you actually are.

You keep saying third party.. Are you illiterate or are you just having trouble reading the thread title? Where does it say that I need to figure out how to help her personally? I asked originally where I can direct her for help. Yet for your own kink you keep acting like I'm trying to get in her pants.

Interested in? Hell no. I would never be able to stand a girl like her. But she came to me wondering where she could go that her father wouldn't find out because she's afraid of him. I saw nothing wrong with trying to help her find that guidance. I think you also missed the part where I said this information was from her BF.

I don't know if you are just having trouble understanding things today alchy or if you just have a kink for older men going after young girls but this has nothing to do with sexual interest. I have my GF and am very happy with her, I have no romantic interest in that girl. I told you why I chose to help her in earlier posts, I can't understand why you would want to behave in such a primitive manner as to be unable to see that there are other things far more important to me than sex.

 

[alkemyst]

So 14 year olds seek you out for advice?

Yet despite how repulsed you are you still offer out a hand?

I see why.

 

[thecoolnessrune]

Originally posted by: alkemyst
So 14 year olds seek you out for advice?

Yet despite how repulsed you are you still offer out a hand?

I see why.

And you question my maturity? You've been the most worthless contributor to this thread. The only thing you've had to offer is ridicule for trying to help someone while accusing me of not only being a predator, but also cheating on my GF. Two things I would *never* be.

It's no wonder you have such a reputation on this forum of being a self-conceited asshole. It feels good to know that at the end of the day your useless banter hasn't done or changed anything, and I can still focus on those who have tried to help.

 

[Anubis]

alkemyst please stop being a tool its getting old

 

[IceBergSLiM]

im more worried about the pills than the eating habits.

 

[InflatableBuddha]

The boyfriend (who I assume is also your friend) is the one who needs to deal with this, not you. He came to you with his concerns, but he is the one who needs to be getting his girlfriend to a guidance counselor and possibly child protection services.

Encourage the boyfriend to get the girl to help, but don't get anymore involved than that. It isn't your place, and as others have said, it will only put you on shaky ground.

 

[thecoolnessrune]

Originally posted by: InflatableBuddha
The boyfriend (who I assume is also your friend) is the one who needs to deal with this, not you. He came to you with his concerns, but he is the one who needs to be getting his girlfriend to a guidance counselor and possibly child protection services.

Encourage the boyfriend to get the girl to help, but don't get anymore involved than that. It isn't your place, and as others have said, it will only put you on shaky ground.

That's exactly what I'm doing.

 

[mrSHEiK124]

School guidance counselor.......or some psych help or something

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: Anubis
alkemyst please stop being a tool its getting old

So you don't understand the problem of a 18 year old 'stranger' trying to be a vehicle for medical advice to a 14 yo?

The girl needs to get help if it's needed, this dude is not going to be the way for that to happen; for all we know she is perfectly healthy and people are just working off heresy.

 

[thecoolnessrune]

All formal definitions of heresy involve being in denial of the church, so I have *no* clue what point you're trying to make there. Did you mean hearsay? If that's the case, then I worry for you because that's what this entire forum is based off of. When someone comes in with a computer problem, it's hearsay, how do we know there's a problem? If someone wants to build a computer for a friend, how do we know he's telling the truth when he says the client wants to game on it? That's hearsay.

Hell, almost *every single* thread in L&R, where even you participate alchy, involves hearsay. However, you choose to select me in a random off-topic thread, and begin accusing me of hearsay. I figure this mostly has to do with the fact that you don't really agree with my opinions, and are grasping at straws to pick anything with which to demean me.