tigersty1e
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Was it vinegar or olive oil that was rife with fakes?
Can you really tell the difference? It's like champagne and sparkling wine. Both are the same.
I didn't get it either until I tried some decent real balsamic vinegar. The taste is out of this world good. It's incredible and very complex flavor. It's nectar of the gods good.
You're misinformed. The bottle that he posted is the real thing. It has the IGP on the label.
Also, you're confusing real balsamic vinegar with real balsamic vinegar that has been aged for an extended period of time.
Let me guess - another troll thread!
Balsamic Vinegar of Modena (Aceto Balsamico di Modena), an inexpensive modern imitation of the traditional product, is today widely available and much better known. This is the kind commonly used for salad dressing together with oil.
No I am not misinformed. The IGP label only means it contains a small portion of Balsamic Vinegar. Please Google what Aceto Balsamico di Modena actually is. What is required for it to be called that.
From wikipedia:
IGP indicates that it has to be made from certain grapes and from a certain regional origin, that it must age for at least two months, and in certain types of wooden barrels. If you want to consider that a "small portion of Balsamic Vinegar" so be it, but it sounds like you're defining balsamic vinegar only as the stuff that's aged for 12+ years. Under Italian/EC trade regs, it's not any less "real."
No I am not misinformed. The IGP label only means it contains a small portion of Balsamic Vinegar. Please Google what Aceto Balsamico di Modena actually is. What is required for it to be called that.
From wikipedia:
Eh?
No they're not. All Champagne is sparkling wine but not all sparkling wine is Champagne.
You aren't actually "cooking" it. It's a simple reduction that happens over low heat that essentially evaporates the some of the water and concentrates the flavors. A balsamic reduction is pretty standard in cooking and any chef worth their salt has created more than their fair share in their life, so you better have lots of ammo for that gun.
I have lots of ammo because I know how the respective products are used. The OP wanted to know where he could get the traditional product for less. I understand just what he's looking to do and taking the balsamic vinegar substitute and reducing it is fine. I linked to two products, either of which are good, but better for different purposes.
If the OP wants the stuff that he classifies as "real" balsamic vinegar, I think he better just cough up the money that the expensive ones are charging. So far he's turned up his nose at every other cheaper option.
Except that the OP is primarily a troll here.
Well yeah, but this is food not politics.
Food and good company shouldn't be separated from one another, if at all possible.
I agree and never fear. I have no intentions of inviting him to dinner.
He might bring the fake balsamic.
I never said that you'll make a 9 buck bottle into a more expensive one. What I said is that I defy people to tell the difference between a good reduction and a decent aged balsamic, unless you're talking about something aged 50+ years.I have lots of ammo because I know how the respective products are used. The OP wanted to know where he could get the traditional product for less. I understand just what he's looking to do and taking the balsamic vinegar substitute and reducing it is fine. I linked to two products, either of which are good, but better for different purposes.
No matter what you do you will never make a 9 buck a bottle product into the more expensive one. I use the less expensive often and I don't have to reduce it to use it. Now if the dish calls for a reduction then a reduction you make.
If you really think there's no difference make sure you let Cooks Illustrated know they're wrong. Bring lots and lots of ammo.
Because he is a troll and this is a troll thread.