Are you Kidding me? 700 DVDs. 12 mins to burn each 1 min to put in/take out the disk. 13min x 700 = 150+ hours.
Even if you buy hard drives, thats still 700dvds x 7gb = 5TB of data at read speed of 20MB/S. TRY 72 Hours. And you have to sit there.
You'd need a seperate computer to do this to protect data integrity, you know so you're not browsing porn WHILE ripping/transcoding.
NOT possible without HUGE time commitment, and patience.
Even if you buy hard drives, thats still 700dvds x 7gb = 5TB of data at read speed of 20MB/S. TRY 72 Hours. And you have to sit there.
You'd need a seperate computer to do this to protect data integrity, you know so you're not browsing porn WHILE ripping/transcoding.
NOT possible without HUGE time commitment, and patience.
Vi - I am doing this right now. I've started off with my TV DVDs so I've ripped the disc using DVDFab. After that I use DVD shrink to get one .vob file per episode and then I've renamed the .vob files to the episode name. This works pretty well on my popcorn hour. I will start doing movies pretty soon and I was thinking about ripping the discs with DVDFab and then using ImgBurn to make them .iso files. What are the negative ramifications of using .iso files vs. having the video_ts folders (I prefer to have one file to clean up clutter). Will the media jukebox software that you use be able to recognize renamed .iso files or renamed .vob files without .ifo or .bup files?
Thanks
h8
Modelworks
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If I was serious about doing a large collection I would get the fastest nvidia video card I could afford and use something like badaboom to encode them to h.264 , making each dvd about 2GB without losing quality. Does away with all the vob and ifo problems and it is fast. Would leave you with one file per dvd of just the movie, no menus to mess with.
http://www.badaboomit.com/?q=node/4
http://www.badaboomit.com/?q=node/4
0roo0roo
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yea you can even have audio commentary, but once again bonus features are lost. manually encoding features can be a pain, it just becomes unattractive. that pay software doesn't seem to even support high profile that handbrake supports. yea its got gpu but the lack of features is not so great.
Modelworks
Lifer
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It supports it under custom. All you have to do to use it is put in a dvd , select the dvd on the left, select the profile on the right and set the quality you want, click start.
Forgot to add that if the DVD is encrypted you will have to decrypt it to the HD first.
Everything is lossy compared to 35mm. With a lossless DVD rip you are still stuck with very lossy transfer. And yes, a 720p or even 576p x264 blu ray rip is better quality than a lossless DVD rip.
I would get your facts straight before calling a post full of fail.
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I'm still pretty new to this this stuff so I'm going to explain as much as I know. Others can fill in the gap. An ISO is a pretty unique file format that not many applications support. You need a mounting program that either loads the .iso individually for each movie you watch or has a virtual mounter snap in (like my movies does with virtual clone drive). That way your system looks at the .iso as an actual physical media. It's not a file format that you can rename to other types and have the system grab it and play it. It needs a native support of that file structure. Most streaming apps can't convert .iso on the fly.
I think some people have got my movies to stream .iso with some other apps thrown in the mix, but I haven't been able too.
so maybe I should just rip to video_ts folders and call it a day?
The main reason I want to do all this is to cut down on the clutter and get the damn jam off the Disney DVDs!! Any suggestions on Disney DVDs? you mentioned that they are a little harder to do
The main reason I want to do all this is to cut down on the clutter and get the damn jam off the Disney DVDs!! Any suggestions on Disney DVDs? you mentioned that they are a little harder to do
/sigh
My post is entirely correct. My facts are straight. Referring to a "lossless DVD rip" makes no sense because all rips are lossless from the DVD. There is no data lost when ripping. The ripped data is the bit-for-bit exact same as the data on the DVD. You are confusing ripping and encoding. Ripping != encoding. Once you have ripped the source most people re-encode it to another format. That process is what may be lossy.
The poster said 'DVD is "lossy" compared to bluray.' That doesn't make any sense and implies BR isn't lossy. I believe he was trying to say that DVD has a lower bitrate and thus lower quality than BR.
My point was that a DVD rip on its own is better than a lossy re-encode of that rip in terms of quality. However, quality isn't always the driving factor when choosing a backup solution.
0roo0roo
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well its obvious ctark didn't understand the basics. its like someone who believes that ripping a cd to mp3 would make it sound better
or more accurately someone that believes converting a mp3 to aac would be superior since aac is the newer more efficient codec
h264 at best preserves what was originally on the dvd better since its more efficient at compression. it will never quite match or let alone be better than dvd. h264 encodes on the web tend to be from bluray, which has 6 times the resolution of dvd, so even if its bitrate starved or half resolution its going to look better than dvd...but it has nothing to do with a dvd rip with h264.
or more accurately someone that believes converting a mp3 to aac would be superior since aac is the newer more efficient codech264 at best preserves what was originally on the dvd better since its more efficient at compression. it will never quite match or let alone be better than dvd. h264 encodes on the web tend to be from bluray, which has 6 times the resolution of dvd, so even if its bitrate starved or half resolution its going to look better than dvd...but it has nothing to do with a dvd rip with h264.
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Synopsis
Your favorite DVDs probably get quite a workout. You watch them so frequently, you know every line of dialogue and every nuance of the films. But all that watching means a lot of handling, increasing the risk that your most beloved DVDs will end up scratched or gouged and therefore unwatchable. With 123 Copy DVD Gold 09's easy DVD copying system, you can achieve peace of mind by creating backups of your entire DVD collection. Watch and rewatch all you want ? with the convenient backup discs you've created with 123 Copy DVD Gold 09, you never have to worry about a scratched DVD interfering with your viewing habits.
123 Copy DVD Gold 09 is as easy to use as its name promises. Simply select your source, set the target and copy. The software produces true 1:1 copies of your favorite movies, preserving the high-quality viewing experience that draws you back to those DVDs again and again. Make backups of your entire movie collection, or create copies of your own personal home videos on DVD to share with friends and family. Plus, you can convert your DVDs to other formats, including DIVX, XVID, MPEG4 and WMV, for easier viewing on your PC or other media devices, allowing you to get even more enjoyment out of your DVD collection.
Features
* Make backup copies of your entire DVD collection for personal use
* Rip and burn DVDs automatically, without waiting
* Select any of four settings to help you achieve maximum quality
* Customize your backup DVD by removing audio, subtitles and scenes according to your preferences
* Take a snapshot and save it as a JPEG to create a unique background
* Burn video downloads to DVDs capable of being played in any DVD player
* Convert DVDs to DIVX, XVID, MPEG4 or WMV formats for viewing on your PC, Xbox 360 or other device
Your favorite DVDs probably get quite a workout. You watch them so frequently, you know every line of dialogue and every nuance of the films. But all that watching means a lot of handling, increasing the risk that your most beloved DVDs will end up scratched or gouged and therefore unwatchable. With 123 Copy DVD Gold 09's easy DVD copying system, you can achieve peace of mind by creating backups of your entire DVD collection. Watch and rewatch all you want ? with the convenient backup discs you've created with 123 Copy DVD Gold 09, you never have to worry about a scratched DVD interfering with your viewing habits.
123 Copy DVD Gold 09 is as easy to use as its name promises. Simply select your source, set the target and copy. The software produces true 1:1 copies of your favorite movies, preserving the high-quality viewing experience that draws you back to those DVDs again and again. Make backups of your entire movie collection, or create copies of your own personal home videos on DVD to share with friends and family. Plus, you can convert your DVDs to other formats, including DIVX, XVID, MPEG4 and WMV, for easier viewing on your PC or other media devices, allowing you to get even more enjoyment out of your DVD collection.
Features
* Make backup copies of your entire DVD collection for personal use
* Rip and burn DVDs automatically, without waiting
* Select any of four settings to help you achieve maximum quality
* Customize your backup DVD by removing audio, subtitles and scenes according to your preferences
* Take a snapshot and save it as a JPEG to create a unique background
* Burn video downloads to DVDs capable of being played in any DVD player
* Convert DVDs to DIVX, XVID, MPEG4 or WMV formats for viewing on your PC, Xbox 360 or other device
0roo0roo
No Lifer
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err well no, whats frequently? 50 times a year? i'd be lucky to watch a film twice a year if that. but lets say you are a film nut that for some reason is scared of watching new things...50 times a year it is. will a dvd get gouged to death from hitting that dvd tray 50 times a year? of course not!!
So, in summary, the answer is nowhere because it's impossible to "buy" a "legal" "ripped" copy of the DVD.
Modelworks
Lifer
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Have to remember some people have families with small children. They can destroy a DVD in minutes as I'm sure other parents can verify.
Modelworks
Lifer
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Considering I have many hundreds of bought DVDs, a lot of which I also still have a downloaded version for, you might just be wrong there.
I don't buy movies when they have just been released, but that is because they ask 18 Euros or more for new ones. Once movies drop to the 5 Euro discount bin level I buy them though.
I download a lot of movies, check them out, and buy those I like. Without downloading I would never have found the Cube series, nor would I ever have seen the The Prophecy series. A lot of movies I downloaded because they sounded not too crappy, and them bought because I liked them. On the other hand, there are also movies that sounded nice (often also big Hollywood releases), and were so bad I didn't even bother watching more than a few minutes at most, and then just deleted them.
Cogman
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Originally posted by: sdifox
You are a few years too late to bitch about it. Proper time is when it was being debated in the legislature
You can buy the software, but you can't use it legally
Actually you have that backwards. You can't produce software that's primary use or major feature is to bypass security measures (unless you work in a research facility trying to bypass the security measure to test its strength...).
So for the average joe, the purchase of the software is legal, the use of the software is legal, but the production of the software is illegal.
sdifox
No Lifer
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Originally posted by: Cogman
Originally posted by: sdifox
You are a few years too late to bitch about it. Proper time is when it was being debated in the legislature
You can buy the software, but you can't use it legally
Actually you have that backwards. You can't produce software that's primary use or major feature is to bypass security measures (unless you work in a research facility trying to bypass the security measure to test its strength...).
So for the average joe, the purchase of the software is legal, the use of the software is legal, but the production of the software is illegal.
Pretty sure that if you use the software to circumvent CSS, you are breaking the law.
Cogman
Lifer
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Originally posted by: sdifox
Originally posted by: Cogman
Originally posted by: sdifox
You are a few years too late to bitch about it. Proper time is when it was being debated in the legislature
You can buy the software, but you can't use it legally
Actually you have that backwards. You can't produce software that's primary use or major feature is to bypass security measures (unless you work in a research facility trying to bypass the security measure to test its strength...).
So for the average joe, the purchase of the software is legal, the use of the software is legal, but the production of the software is illegal.
Pretty sure that if you use the software to circumvent CSS, you are breaking the law.
Read the DMCA, it isn't in there. (I had to do a report on the DMCA, I'm pretty sure there isn't anything in there about the use of software to circumvent security measures, only the production of such software.)
But since you probably wont believe me
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