It went down the toilet. Ive witnessed it first hand... and it makes me very sad inside. That's why I like getting the studio masters, or FLAC torrents of my music.
OrganizedChaos
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don't you see thats the plan!
salesman just needs to compare a recent sqaure wave cd to a properly mastered sacd, customer will think ooh that sounds better i'll buy it. then in another 10 years another salesman will compare a recent super compersed 0db sacd to the properly mastered new ultra uber audio cd, and again the customer will think oooh that sounds better and buy the fancy new player and rebuy all there old media.
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Originally posted by: MS Dawn
I've got a plan to beat the plan. I know people.
Hook me up with a version of How to Dismantle an Atomic Bomb that isn't a 60 minute square wave?
Rubycon
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Originally posted by: mrSHEiK124
Hook me up with a version of How to Dismantle an Atomic Bomb that isn't a 60 minute square wave?
Steady hands needed. Getting sloppy while dismantling a nuke means you have a 150 REM/HR sine wave that lasts for 1000 years. :laugh:
IHateMyJob2004
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I have to say that Hustle & Flow is one of the best dynamically mastered DVDs I've heard.
The fact that you can hear what's happening on Logitecks is ugly.
Most people don't know how to read Descartes; I'm sure that their ears cannot hear the lovely movements of a bass clarinet played by Dolphy.
Why do recording engineers screw up their recordings?
Rogo
The fact that you can hear what's happening on Logitecks is ugly.
Most people don't know how to read Descartes; I'm sure that their ears cannot hear the lovely movements of a bass clarinet played by Dolphy.
Why do recording engineers screw up their recordings?
Rogo
It's not the engineers. They know how to produce full range recordings. It's the studios that are forcing them to apply dynamic compression algorithms after mastering so the track sounds better on your fraking iPods. This entire issue has been beaten to death in audiophile forums. Unfortunatley, we have a pop culture that thinks 2" computer speaker combined with a 6" paper woofer is "full range sound" because you've spent $200 for a damn sound card.
The issue has nothing to do with digital -vs- analog.
TEXT
Love it
Is this a epirical example of what modern day recordings should be?
you're lovely and a sonic-geek *S*
rogo
Love it
Is this a epirical example of what modern day recordings should be?
you're lovely and a sonic-geek *S*
rogo
Rubycon
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In a perfect world...
The recording is supposed to capture the ambience, the setting, all the subtle details and painstaking effort that went into producing the music in the recorded space. When there were real musicians playing instruments and singing without a stack of electronics inline that would embarass NASA - the result was often enjoyable on a cool evening when the mood struck. Most musicians are biased and I'm no exception.
Multi-miked junk with repetitious sampled and processed "beats" and "grooves" along with highly processed vocal? tracks in most of today's modern pop is a disgrace. It can and often does cause listener fatigue and makes the sane listener want to throw rocks at their speakers. No wonder we have cones and domes made of materials that could double for bullet proof vests and ablative heat shields for the next generation re-usable space vehicle! They have to be ROCK PROOF! Paper woofers were fine and most of the good stuff still uses them.
The recording is supposed to capture the ambience, the setting, all the subtle details and painstaking effort that went into producing the music in the recorded space. When there were real musicians playing instruments and singing without a stack of electronics inline that would embarass NASA - the result was often enjoyable on a cool evening when the mood struck. Most musicians are biased and I'm no exception.
Multi-miked junk with repetitious sampled and processed "beats" and "grooves" along with highly processed vocal? tracks in most of today's modern pop is a disgrace. It can and often does cause listener fatigue and makes the sane listener want to throw rocks at their speakers. No wonder we have cones and domes made of materials that could double for bullet proof vests and ablative heat shields for the next generation re-usable space vehicle! They have to be ROCK PROOF! Paper woofers were fine and most of the good stuff still uses them.
One of the best main stream recordings around is Guns n Roses Use your illusion Albums. Amazing sounding.
I have a lot of other ones but I love that release. REd hot chilli peppers are absolute crap. Most horrid amount of compression ever.
I have a lot of other ones but I love that release. REd hot chilli peppers are absolute crap. Most horrid amount of compression ever.
Cyrus Chestnut's recordings don't exibit any of the attributes of stifiled grooves and henious beats.
I suspect that it's only the 'crappy' music that is getting this treatment-music that really does need to be 'listened' to.
I don't place any of the rap, trance, pseudo modern crap that corporate labels produce in the catagory of 'worth listening to.'
Most of the garbage that's affected by this is literally garbage-IMO.
Rogo
I suspect that it's only the 'crappy' music that is getting this treatment-music that really does need to be 'listened' to.
I don't place any of the rap, trance, pseudo modern crap that corporate labels produce in the catagory of 'worth listening to.'
Most of the garbage that's affected by this is literally garbage-IMO.
Rogo
Raduque
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as someone said above, god forbid you listen to the audio recording the way the artist or composer intended you to :roll:
Personally, I can't stand this trend towards over-compressed music with no dynamic range. I bought a country cd, COUNTRY (yes, shut it) and it sounds horrible due to having no dynamic range. The highs are clipped, and the lows are simply pretty much non-existent.
I have some pretty decent vintage (mid-late 70s) equipment that I use for stereo listening, and while it's far from being "teh best", it still qualifies as miles better then what probably 90% of people listen on. I'd like to have music that lets my gear sound it's best, and not give me a headache.
Not all albums are recorded equally. Some albums sound like absolute shite on a decent pair of speakers while some sound great. If you want some suggestions on some nice recordings let me know, I'd be more tha happy to offer some suggestions in a pm.
Rubycon
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Those aren't two different releases are they?
Was one rip of a CD/LP and the other an MP3 download?
Rogo
Was one rip of a CD/LP and the other an MP3 download?
Rogo
Rubycon
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Yes - compression brings up the soft parts and reduces the louder parts so the entire program can be normalized and will play much louder. TV adverts do this and that's why they come blaring through to get your attention.
A CD will always have 96dB of dynamic range however using the medium for most music nowadays is like buying a ten ton truck to drive to work. Hey that seems to be getting popular too!
A CD will always have 96dB of dynamic range however using the medium for most music nowadays is like buying a ten ton truck to drive to work. Hey that seems to be getting popular too!
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