Where McCain went wrong...

[nixium]

Originally posted by: GTKeeper
The GOP has a stranglehold on McCain.

The whole notion that if the base stays home, McCain is doomed is kinda horseshit. McCain in 2000 overwhelmly appealed to independent voters. People are still asking 'where the hell is McCain of 2000'.

When he bought into the whole GOP and base thing, that's when everything fell down. All he had to do, was nominate Mittens for VP and run as Mavericks that will reform our government and return to fiscal responsibility AND NOT be afraid to say 'yea, defense spending will get cut, social programs will get cut, everything will get cut to get us out of this mess'.

That's how they would have won the election.

A sort of a Ron Paul 'Lite'?

 

[StageLeft]

The prime democratic point in this election is that Bush sucks (we know this) and that McCain is, at heart, a Bush-man, or at the very least a mostly lockstep Republican. It has definitely killed him here. He calls himself a Maverick but he is only shallowly so. Less partisan than many, but not enough. If he truly was a major thorn in the side of the republicans over the years, a republican by affiliation more than standing in line with the rest of them, it would have paid big dividends here, but no amount of spinning is fooling the public against the onslaught of reality. They don't want a republican in office and he is a pretty good one.

I feel bad for all Americans today. How do you allow such mediocre politicians to take the helm of your country?

I've thought about this a lot, too. It's the culture and individual education. Both are in need of a modification so that true honesty and self-esteem can be brought back into the political spectrum.

I think Huckabee would have been a great pick for him. From what I've seen of him he seems like a damned nice guy and he's very charismatic. He's just way too much of a bible thumper for my taste in public officials.

I called him fvckabee for a reason (beyond the obvious ease of the play on words). I thought he was a hardcore hick at his core. I think as people got to know him more they'd have seem him as a fundie twat with no sense of the world. Nice guy, I have no doubt. Capable in office at this level, no, and also I've no doubt.

 

[SP33Demon]

Originally posted by: nixium

Originally posted by: GTKeeper
The GOP has a stranglehold on McCain.

The whole notion that if the base stays home, McCain is doomed is kinda horseshit. McCain in 2000 overwhelmly appealed to independent voters. People are still asking 'where the hell is McCain of 2000'.

When he bought into the whole GOP and base thing, that's when everything fell down. All he had to do, was nominate Mittens for VP and run as Mavericks that will reform our government and return to fiscal responsibility AND NOT be afraid to say 'yea, defense spending will get cut, social programs will get cut, everything will get cut to get us out of this mess'.

That's how they would have won the election.

A sort of a Ron Paul 'Lite'?

If there was a RP Lite, he would be the president, there's no doubt in my mind. RP's views are a little too radical, but his track record, character, and intelligence are stellar. If he reels in some of his radical views, he will win the next election if the next president doesn't get the job done.

 

[quest55720]

He blew it during this mortage crisis. He should of went on the attack the second it happened. There is so much video out there of frank and his cronnies saying there was no problems at freddie and fannie. He should of framed this as democratic problem which it is. Instead he let the MSM and Obama frame it as a McCain/Bush problem. The MSM earned its money this year. It will get Obama elected and protect that scum frank and his cronnies from the justice they deserve. If it was a republican who said there was no problems at freddie and fannie then blocked bills to fix the problem. The guy would be the most hated man in america. Instead the democrats basically get away with it and the tax payers are on the hook for a trillion dollars so frank could get his money from his buddies at fannie and freddie.

 

[Jaskalas]

His whole mantra of bipartisanship is as if to say conservatism is history, and so he too is history.

 

[Lemon law]

While the private Huckabee held the kind of wacko beliefs Skoob is talking about, the public record of Huckabee was as sold pragmatist and a very good governor. I do not know what's in the water in Hope, Arkansas,
but IMHO, Huckabee does not scare the crap out of me like Palin does.

But its all water over the dam, McCain picked Palin, and is going to look like the dunce of the century if this Friday's troopergate finding results in a ethics censure of Palin.

 

[StageLeft]

Huckabee does not scare the crap out of me like Palin does.

No argument from me on that one. I said in another thread, unbelievably, but I maintain it, I'd rather see Bush in office for another term than Palin.

 

[winnar111]

Originally posted by: JS80
he beat Romney is where he went wrong.

No, Romney beat himself, over the last 10-15 years, by taking every possible position on every issue at one point or another.

Would he have mattered as VP? Lieberman didn't counteract the Clinton malaise, and Edwards didn't counteract the fact that Kerry was a leftwinged radical tool. Dan Quayle was worse, and they won that election.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: quest55720
He blew it during this mortage crisis. He should of went on the attack the second it happened. There is so much video out there of frank and his cronnies saying there was no problems at freddie and fannie. He should of framed this as democratic problem which it is. Instead he let the MSM and Obama frame it as a McCain/Bush problem. The MSM earned its money this year. It will get Obama elected and protect that scum frank and his cronnies from the justice they deserve. If it was a republican who said there was no problems at freddie and fannie then blocked bills to fix the problem. The guy would be the most hated man in america. Instead the democrats basically get away with it and the tax payers are on the hook for a trillion dollars so frank could get his money from his buddies at fannie and freddie.

It's astonishing how often this FUD can get thoroughly discredited and it keeps coming back up.

I'll make a prediction. If McCain does what you say and comes out personally on the attack and tries to pin the housing bubble exclusively on the Dems using this talk radio spiel, he'll lose the election by more than 10 points in the popular.