Where is your ideal income to workload balance?

[Strk]

my ideal is save as much money as i possibly can for the next 10-15 years, so i can retire at 40ish

i would be willing to work 40-50 hours in order to do that, with 60-70 hours a week infrequently at crunch times

Willing to work 40-50? So you're willing to work a full-time job?

I don't really care about the amount, but not hating my job is my only goal. I'm going back to school to try and accomplish that because work sucks right now 🙁

 

[mistercrabby]

Cuda, you have a point.

I know nurses and cops and professors and other folks that are making the world a better place one day, one patient/civilian interaction/student at a time. Can't pay em enough for what they do. But economics say we gotta put a $$ on it, just like anything.

I know for a fact that some people are about doing the minimum and deserve what they get. Some are willing to kill themselves to get ahead, and they also deserve what they get. Sometimes, the "get" doesn't equate to the effort, either way.

What i'm saying ism't that we should give our souls to help some dude's grandkids vacation a Gstaad. Everyone works for a different set of motivations. All i'm saying is find out what that is for you and if you don't, don't bitch about it.

If you want to make art, then you can't complain if you don't make what a petrolium engineer pulls down. If you're a petrolium engineer, don't bitch because you have to work in an office 10 hours a day.

If you show up to work to do the minimum and pick up a check, i'm glad you're showing up. If you show up to work to make the world a better place, come work with me.

 

[brianmanahan]

Willing to work 40-50? So you're willing to work a full-time job?

I don't really care about the amount, but not hating my job is my only goal. I'm going back to school to try and accomplish that because work sucks right now 🙁

yeah, even a full time job that i hate, just whatever pays me the most

because i am so sick of working, all the stress and headaches. brain surgery was not good for my memory so i would prefer a job where i dont have to manage people and run projects and remember what everyone is doing. however, my company and the few that ive talked to are like "oh you have 6 years of experience? we cant allow you to take a lower level position even for less money, you either need to be a senior developer or GET OUT".

i liked work so much more 3-4 years ago. now i just hate going every day 🙁 hence the saving %50 of my income to get out of it asap.

 

[hans007]

Boys, it ain't just about the money. I understand the point and all, but if you're doing that kind of math, you might want to think about doing something else. I make good bank, and i have a lot of responsibility and work >40 hours. But with that i get to have input to the vision of the company, do work I like, mentor people coming up and work with a solid leadership team. I look at the clock a bit, but that's more to coordinate with family responsibilities.

It was the same when I was making chickin feed as an Army grunt. Some days we'd work 12 hours, some days didn't do shit, some days work three weeks straight, sleeping on the ground for an hour or two if we wus lucky. But, I got to jump our of perfectly good aircraft, fire all sorts of cool weapons, kill commies, and didn't have to do much paperwork. hooah!!!

When i hear people talk about "work-life balance" or trying to square their hours with their pay, it smacks of some kinda Frenchy, non-productive, just puting in the time, complacent, affluen-za, not living up to your potential horse feathers.

Our grand parents and great-grands and theirs had no idea what a 40 hour week was, and they built the modern age.

What are you building? A 401K? Yeesh.

I don't really get this logic. I'd rather look back remembering that I helped in some way to make apple a whole bunch of money by say making an iPhone and making a whole bunch of money and having done something with my skills than say I sat at home all day relaxing for 50 years or going to the beach.


The whole I want to retire early and sit on my ass for 40 years and get fat crowd perplexes me. Maybe I'll understand it when I'm 70 but right now I want to be contributing to something . Hell if you contribute to something good people like it and the company you work for makes money. But at least people liked it enough to buy it.

I know people who are millionaires who still go to work at the companies they own and drive the forklift on Saturdays because they like working . They get more out of it than driving the sports cars they own and sitting in their nice houses.

 

[Red Squirrel]

Ideal, for me, would be being independently wealthy and working on my own projects / businesses whatever days and times I choose.

This.

I need to start working on something that can make me money. It's tough though since lot of stuff is considered a conflict of interest with my job. I think it's BS that they can dictate what you can/can't do on your own time, but nothing I can do about it. I hear of people making 100's of thousands or even millions making little facebook games and stuff, I need to persue something like this. Heck even if it died after a while, if I come out with a million or so I'm set for life.

Currently I work 40 hour weeks and make 60-70k so I'm happy with that especially because it's shift work so the 40 hours is spread in a way where I get lot of time off. I'd hate having to go back to 8*5 though, you just have no time to do anything because you're at work all the time.

 

[mistercrabby]

Hans, sorry you don't get it. Can't help it.

The whole retire early bit though, you have a point. Don't worry, the municipal and corporate "bankruptcies" in the next few years will take care of that.

All you dudes currently paid to sit home, heads up!