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Where is the Muslim Outrage??

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Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: Braznor
You can provide as many false examples as you like. The truth is that Pat Robertson is a jerk. But comparing him to that Imam is still extreme.

No one (in the whole civilized world) takes Pat Robertson seriously, except the extreme leftists like yourselves.

The chief difference between them is that thousands of muslim would consider the Imam's words as their Koranic duty to wage a holy war.

You are comparing a circus clown to a general of an extremely oppressive ideology.
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First, the guy is NOT an Imam, he is a cleric.

Second, if the "Muslim World" is taking him seriously, there must be an assassination taking place in Denmark. Is there?

Just sounds like a lot of religious rhetoric to me, regardless of whether its coming from some cleric in Pakistan or Robertson.
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Violent Muslims have murdered plenty of people (Theo Van Gogh) throughout the world in the name of Islam. Your denying it here will serve no purpose in convincing most of us of anything otherwise.

Yes, There is a lot of religious rhethoric, but coming from the mouth of that Cleric, it wil always end in whipping up violent riots and protests.

Jpeyton, you will make a very good dhimmi :thumbsup:

 
To all the gullible who are claiming that Muslims suffer from a lack of leadership, let me inform you that you are all wrong. It is not simple for an orgy of violent protests to be coordinatedand organized in such a scale and manner (as achieved by the muslims) without having leaders, the muslims may appear to be a disorganized bunch, having no human leaders of correct calibre, but remember the ultimate leader of Muslims is the Quran. The Islamists are following every word mentioned in the Quran to the letter and they are winning inspite of the West's technology and power, thanks to the treachery of the leftists and the useful idiots amongst you.
 
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: ValkyrieofHouston
I know and understand that these bloodthirsty murderers do not represent
the majority of the world's Muslims. When, though, do they become
outraged? When do they take to the streets to express their outrage at the
radicals who are making their religion the object of worldwide hatred and
ridicule?
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So according to you, a Muslim does not care unless he takes to the streets and parades around, showing his anger against something? You make it sound like unless you see visual confirmation of all Muslims taking it to the streets, they don't care. Furthermore you assume they didn't care about all the events just because you don't have their signature on file expressing outrage, or because you lack video footage of them on the streets protesting it.

If you're holding everyone to the same standard, what % of the US population paraded around the streets showing their outrage for 9/11? I guess not many of the 300 million Americans cared, according to you, because the only way to show outrage is taking to the streets.

What is more likely: you're talking out your ass, copying and pasting "No Muslim outrage" after every event you choose, knowing that your claim cannot be confirmed nor denied without a formal survey of 1.3 billion people.

BTW, just for sh1ts and giggles, add up all the dead from every act of terrorism, violent protests, or violation of human rights in your post and let us know how close that number comes to 28,427.
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This is not according to me, this is a post that was typed on another board forum. If you read at the bottom you will see his name. I posted this to generate open discussion but it does not necessarily reflect all of my views on the situation. However, I certainly don't agree with your post here. You are way off.

Val
 
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: spunkz
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: GoPackGo
We didn't protest in outrage ....we put up flags or did you forget that for a brief moment in time America became Red White and Blue again?
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Oh yes, and the infamous magnetic ribbons. Nothing says outrage like some cheap Chinese goods plastered on your automobile.
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oh we weren't outraged after 9/11. we only went to WAR....
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The government declares war, not the people.
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Oh, so wrong! The government is a representative of the people. People voted these officials into office.
 
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: dexvx
Originally posted by: MegaWorks
No because you generalize like many idiots in this thread when you use the term Muslim, I know what you?re trying to do.

Just read that idiot 0roo0roo post.

who knows. cuz yesterday they killed 16 people and burned 15 christian churches/17 houses in nigeria.
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How do I generalize? Do you deny that the statement:

Only Muslims have crashed jetliners into skyscrapers.

To be untrue as of the time of my posting? It may not be PC, but its true. Do I need to draw you some Venn diagrams to simplify my case?
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Could you please draw us a bar graph of the total number of civilians killed by Muslim terrorists in the past 10 years vs. the number of civilians killed by the US military during the same period?
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Ok, this statement really bothers me. There may be civilians killed by the US military but a lot of that has to do with many different factors. The fanatical terrorists use their Women and Children as barriers in War, they have used there children to engage the US soldiers, not to mention many pretend to be wounded or dead just so they can trick US soldiers to get close enough to their bodies then shoot at our Soldiers. So it only seems to me that they have brought it on themselves by placing their own civilians in the line of fire with their underhanded tactics. They don't value their women and children or wounded the way we do. Sorry this don't fly with me. These terrorists know that we don't want to hurt civilians and they play on that fear and use it to get at our men.
 
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: dexvx
Originally posted by: MegaWorks
No because you generalize like many idiots in this thread when you use the term Muslim, I know what you?re trying to do.

Just read that idiot 0roo0roo post.

who knows. cuz yesterday they killed 16 people and burned 15 christian churches/17 houses in nigeria.
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How do I generalize? Do you deny that the statement:

Only Muslims have crashed jetliners into skyscrapers.

To be untrue as of the time of my posting? It may not be PC, but its true. Do I need to draw you some Venn diagrams to simplify my case?
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Could you please draw us a bar graph of the total number of civilians killed by Muslim terrorists in the past 10 years vs. the number of civilians killed by the US military during the same period?
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Why dont you do the same with CONFIRMED civilian deaths deliberatly casued by US troops... and I dont want to see anything posted from any Middle Eastern or pro Muslim/Islamic or anti bush camps.... i want confirmed reports... UN reports would be good... find those...


 
Originally posted by: ValkyrieofHouston
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: dexvx
Originally posted by: MegaWorks
No because you generalize like many idiots in this thread when you use the term Muslim, I know what you?re trying to do.

Just read that idiot 0roo0roo post.

who knows. cuz yesterday they killed 16 people and burned 15 christian churches/17 houses in nigeria.
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How do I generalize? Do you deny that the statement:

Only Muslims have crashed jetliners into skyscrapers.

To be untrue as of the time of my posting? It may not be PC, but its true. Do I need to draw you some Venn diagrams to simplify my case?
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Could you please draw us a bar graph of the total number of civilians killed by Muslim terrorists in the past 10 years vs. the number of civilians killed by the US military during the same period?
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Ok, this statement really bothers me. There may be civilians killed by the US military but a lot of that has to do with many different factors. The fanatical terrorists use their Women and Children as barriers in War, they have used there children to engage the US soldiers, not to mention many pretend to be wounded or dead just so they can trick US soldiers to get close enough to their bodies then shoot at our Soldiers. So it only seems to me that they have brought it on themselves by placing their own civilians in the line of fire with their underhanded tactics. They don't value their women and children or wounded the way we do. Sorry this don't fly with me. These terrorists know that we don't want to hurt civilians and they play on that fear and use it to get at our men.
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Dont stop there. Also, the terrorist/insurgents in iraq attack a lot of iraqi civilians that they believe cooperate with our soldiers.

That's what's so scary about these islamofascists, they will kill anyone that does not conform to their fundamentalism. That includes other Muslims that do not cooperate with their jihad against the west. They will even blow up themselves to kill fellow Muslims, again, if they believe they have in any way helped their enemy.

It's been proven over and over again, islamofascists don't value life the same way as their enemy, which is just about everyone, including other Muslims.
 
Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski
Charlie Sheen put it best in Navy SEALS. "Not all Arabs are terrorists, but all terrorists are Arab."
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Well actually thats wrong too. Some terrorists, as we've seen in SE Asia, are Asian.

But to be on topic:

Is there any other religion where this would happen? Do you see Jews killing other people because of Holocaust jokes? Do you see Buddhists killing Muslims over tearing down ancient Buddhist statues in Afghanistan? Do you see Christian burning Hollywood over South Park's Jesus jokes? Do you see Hindu's burning mosques over the their portrayal? There might be extremists in every religion, but to carry it in the mainstream?

The answer is No. At the moment, only Muslims are capable of this kind of behavior. That is why the religion needs a revolution, similar to what Christianity went through in the 1600s-1800s.
 
Originally posted by: Blackjack2000Wow.

Fundamental Islam is no different from fundamental Christianity or Fundamental Judaism.

Look at what the Catholics and Protestants do to each other in Great Britain.

Your charactarization of the Islamic religion is dangerous and sad.
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Less drugs, more reading. What are you talking about? Before you blurt out "IRA", please learn a little about it. Those terrorists kill in spite of their religion, not because of it. And my characterization is dangerous and sad? Maybe, but it's also true.

Good Lord. of course fundamental islam is different than fundamental christianity. Do you know why? Fundamental Christian vs Fundamental Muslim. How many inspiring muslims can you name? Muslims who are the equivalent of Christian Saints?
Is there any other religion where this would happen? Do you see Jews killing other people because of Holocaust jokes? Do you see Buddhists killing Muslims over tearing down ancient Buddhist statues in Afghanistan? Do you see Christian burning Hollywood over South Park's Jesus jokes? Do you see Hindu's burning mosques over the their portrayal? There might be extremists in every religion, but to carry it in the mainstream?

The answer is No. At the moment, only Muslims are capable of this kind of behavior. That is why the religion needs a revolution, similar to what Christianity went through in the 1600s-1800s.
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Yep. It's a tribute to the tragedy of political correctness, and the flawed argument of cultural relativism that has some continue to cling desperately to the idea that there is nothing flawed with Islam. There is, as can be seen in the countless terrorists that have excused their actions with it throughout the ages, ever since its inception in the first millennium. We mustn't be surprised. Jesus taught to turn the other cheek. His morals and actions were quite unassailable. Mohammed, meanwhile, acted in wars, killing and leading men into battle, looting, and pillaging. This is not in dispute. It's clearly stated and documented. In essence, the religion's great hero is a bandit, so it's not surprising that his followers act as bandits.
 
I think it is great that these idiota are running around and causing havoc. I hope it wakes up the rest of the world to the danger of this increasingly violent form of Islamic fundamentalism....
 
Originally posted by: Braznor
To all the gullible who are claiming that Muslims suffer from a lack of leadership, let me inform you that you are all wrong. It is not simple for an orgy of violent protests to be coordinatedand organized in such a scale and manner (as achieved by the muslims) without having leaders, the muslims may appear to be a disorganized bunch, having no human leaders of correct calibre, but remember the ultimate leader of Muslims is the Quran. The Islamists are following every word mentioned in the Quran to the letter and they are winning inspite of the West's technology and power, thanks to the treachery of the leftists and the useful idiots amongst you.
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The Islamists are winning ..."thanks to the treachery of the leftists"?
What treachery is that? It might have more to do with the incompetence of the right-wing neocons. Invading a country on false pretenses/bad intel, diverting troops from Afghanistan, thus letting Bin Laden escape, supporting the Saudis, arming and training islamic terrorists in Afghanistan (Reagan called them "freedom fighters").
Right, everything is the fault of the leftists. STFU
 
I've been watching the self-labeled intellectuals of ATPN through this thread and the new thread on Iraq. This has been a week or so. No one here has approached the reality of the situation with the world of Islam. The cartoons do not illustrate a vision of Mohammad, but a vision of the world and peoples of Islam as seen by the rest of the world?s population. The image exhibited in the cartoons should provoke outrage within the people of Islam, but not against the western world and the publications that publish the vision. The outrage in Islam should be against the purveyors of the image of the religion that make it appear to be uncivilized and violent.

Muslims on this very forum have repeatedly insisted that those factors do not represent all Muslims nor the true Islamic faith. I believe them and I can see how they would fear for their lives if they provoke the anger of, or even get the attention of those uncivilized elements. What needs to happen is that the world begins to understand the underlying truth and that truth is not that we should strive to understand how we have misunderstood Muslims, but how Muslims have misunderstood their own.
 
yup, blowing up mosques/burning churches.. its all fine and dandy if muslims run amuck. infidel cartoons=oh noes!
 
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