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Wow. Mention the word "censorship" and the geeksters go insane.

Something not mentioned in the article is that both France and Germany recently passed laws against online hate speech. What Google is doing in France and Germany is precisely to avoid having a lawsuit or a smackdown brought against them in either country. It's not an erosion of free speech nor is it anything else of the type that commonly causes the typical and oh so common socialist geek to instantly slam his knee firmly into his lower jaw.

There's nothing to see here. Move along.
 
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Wow. Mention the word "censorship" and the geeksters go insane.

Something not mentioned in the article is that both France and Germany recently passed laws against online hate speech. What Google is doing in France and Germany is precisely to avoid having a lawsuit or a smackdown brought against them in either country. It's not an erosion of free speech nor is it anything else of the type that commonly causes the typical and oh so common socialist geek to instantly slam his knee firmly into his lower jaw.
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Wow nice try. I think censorship in France and Germany is wrong. And I think it's wrong here too. You'd probably consider me a "socialist" geek so basically your characterization is naive and flawed. Try again.

There's nothing to see here. Move along.
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How appropriate for a censor-appeaser like yourself. 😉

 
Just found this thread, wrote an e-mail to some newspapers in denmark linking here, if i search for lynndie england, it finds all the photos there is, because i'm in denmark. Anyway i can cheat google to believe that i'm not?
 
Originally posted by: Forsythe
Just found this thread, wrote an e-mail to some newspapers in denmark linking here, if i search for lynndie england, it finds all the photos there is, because i'm in denmark. Anyway i can cheat google to believe that i'm not?
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Thanks for confirming the U.S. Censorship.

Edit: Should ask Mods for a sticky on this???



 
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Wow. Mention the word "censorship" and the geeksters go insane.

Something not mentioned in the article is that both France and Germany recently passed laws against online hate speech. What Google is doing in France and Germany is precisely to avoid having a lawsuit or a smackdown brought against them in either country. It's not an erosion of free speech nor is it anything else of the type that commonly causes the typical and oh so common socialist geek to instantly slam his knee firmly into his lower jaw.

There's nothing to see here. Move along.
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On the topic of "online hate speech", it is my personal belief that so long as a group or individual does not harm the person or property of another, no harm has been done. Once the offending person or group harms the person or property of another, the limits of free speech have been broken.

As much as it pains me to say so, because I disagree with their positions, I strongly support right of online hate groups to spread their bigotry and and ignorance throughout the Internet so long as they do not break that rule. I will expect the same rights to be extended to me.

If you cannot see the issues of judging popular and unpopular speech, well...

I am sorry if my concerns make me a socialist geek.

As you said, "There's nothing to see here." And that's exactly the problem.


 
Originally posted by: Forsythe
Just found this thread, wrote an e-mail to some newspapers in denmark linking here, if i search for lynndie england, it finds all the photos there is, because i'm in denmark. Anyway i can cheat google to believe that i'm not?
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in iceland and I find nothing, are you sure you are using google image search?
 
Originally posted by: Czar
Originally posted by: Forsythe
Just found this thread, wrote an e-mail to some newspapers in denmark linking here, if i search for lynndie england, it finds all the photos there is, because i'm in denmark. Anyway i can cheat google to believe that i'm not?
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in iceland and I find nothing, are you sure you are using google image search?
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Yup, you're right, i've made a stupid ass mistake! On the picture search i found nothing!!!
It's clearly just protection from bad pictures then, as you can't seem to find any violent pictures there!
Nothing to see here then... Move along
 
I just tried several different proxies from different countries and none of them could access the pictures
India
Mexico
Philippines
Kuwait
Romania

etc. etc.

 
Absolutely incredible. I urge everyone to contact their local congressman or woman and have them look into this. I don't care what anyone says, but Abu Gahrib is a big deal. Google has the right to censor if they want, but this is simply appalling. I guess we are just supposed to forget, eh? Fsck the Iraqis. I mean what's so bad about being tortured? I'm being sarcastic of course. This is bullsh!t quite frankly. It *certainly* needs to be slashdotted.
 
wow. very interesting. im glad you posted about it or i probably would have never noticed or known.
thanks for all the links/info on the subject. keep it coming!
 
got a reply

Thank you for your note. You can currently search more than 880 million
images on the web with Google's Image Search. However, there are many more
images on the internet that Google has not yet added. We are not censoring
the images you cite.

Google is working continuously to crawl more images to increase the
quality and quantity of images in our index, so it's quite likely that
we'll add the Lynndie England images you're looking for in the near
future. At present, however, we have no process for manually adding images
from a particular website to our results.

We really appreciate your thoughtful feedback, and we'll keep it in mind
as we work to improve Google Images.

Regards,
The Google Team
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Originally posted by: Czar
got a reply

Thank you for your note. You can currently search more than 880 million
images on the web with Google's Image Search. However, there are many more
images on the internet that Google has not yet added. We are not censoring
the images you cite.

Google is working continuously to crawl more images to increase the
quality and quantity of images in our index, so it's quite likely that
we'll add the Lynndie England images you're looking for in the near
future. At present, however, we have no process for manually adding images
from a particular website to our results.

We really appreciate your thoughtful feedback, and we'll keep it in mind
as we work to improve Google Images.

Regards,
The Google Team
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But the images were there before. :/
 
http://images.google.com/image...s+berg&btnG=Search

http://images.google.com/image...erg%22&btnG=Search

http://images.google.com/image...erg%22&btnG=Search

None of these links provide any images of the Nicholas Berg beheading.

Some other examples:

http://images.google.com/image...n&lr=&safe=off

http://images.google.com/image...eading&btnG=Search

http://images.google.com/image...eading&btnG=Search

http://images.google.com/image...eading&btnG=Search

http://images.google.com/image...&start=60&sa=N

http://images.google.com/image...ensley&btnG=Search

http://images.google.com/image...Bigley&btnG=Search

http://images.google.com/image...;safe=off&filter=0

I fail to see any of these links providing pictures of recent hostage tragedies. I am starting to see a pattern.


If you can think of any other Google Image search terms that provide little or no output when they either did at one time or "should" (same search terms bring up many hits at any or all other sites), please feel free to post them here.

MAKE SURE ALL LINKS ARE WORK APPROPRIATE!

 
Originally posted by: Czar
got a reply

Thank you for your note. You can currently search more than 880 million
images on the web with Google's Image Search. However, there are many more
images on the internet that Google has not yet added. We are not censoring
the images you cite.

Google is working continuously to crawl more images to increase the
quality and quantity of images in our index, so it's quite likely that
we'll add the Lynndie England images you're looking for in the near
future. At present, however, we have no process for manually adding images
from a particular website to our results.

We really appreciate your thoughtful feedback, and we'll keep it in mind
as we work to improve Google Images.

Regards,
The Google Team
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OMG.. that is their answer?

Here is an odd search.. Notice there are pictures.. but WHICH pictures are missing? That is some seriously advanced bot they use.
http://images.google.com/image...UTF-8&q=abu+ghraib



 
Google Image Search had these images at one time. That was my entire point. Their email does not explain why images are missing, but states that they have not been crawled.

I am having a bit of a hard time thinking that none of the searches in my prior post have been "crawled" given both the wide spread nature of the stories and the multiple images available. That said, I do not know much about Image Search's bot, just what it usually produces.
 
Originally posted by: Mill
Absolutely incredible. I urge everyone to contact their local congressman or woman and have them look into this. I don't care what anyone says, but Abu Gahrib is a big deal. Google has the right to censor if they want, but this is simply appalling. I guess we are just supposed to forget, eh? Fsck the Iraqis. I mean what's so bad about being tortured? I'm being sarcastic of course. This is bullsh!t quite frankly. It *certainly* needs to be slashdotted.
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Unless the censoring from google was initiated by the government, I really would not want to involve the G in "un-censoring" them. I'd like to see the government as UNinvolved with censorship policies as possible. If the knowledge of google censorship becomes widespread (as I'm sure it will) that alone should provide the impetus to bring google about on its policy
 
Originally posted by: JHoNNy1OoO
Originally posted by: Czar
got a reply

Thank you for your note. You can currently search more than 880 million
images on the web with Google's Image Search. However, there are many more
images on the internet that Google has not yet added. We are not censoring
the images you cite.

Google is working continuously to crawl more images to increase the
quality and quantity of images in our index, so it's quite likely that
we'll add the Lynndie England images you're looking for in the near
future. At present, however, we have no process for manually adding images
from a particular website to our results.

We really appreciate your thoughtful feedback, and we'll keep it in mind
as we work to improve Google Images.

Regards,
The Google Team
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But the images were there before. :/
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But the images were there before

Exactly.

They are obviously working under the direction of the current Administration, they have been trained well.
 
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