Where do you stand on these hot button issues?

Riprorin

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Here's a few. Feel free to add additional ones. Here's my take:

Racial preferences - Given equal qualifications, I have no problem giving the edge to a minority individual.

Limited immigration - Not really up on the topic, but there should be some rational controls.

resent benefits for illegal immigrants - Of course.

support the death penalty - Sure. Some people deserve it.

are morally troubled by cloning - I guess so, but I have more pressing issues to think about.

oppose gay marriage - It ain't for me but whatever floats your boat.

look favorably on the Boy Scouts - Damn straight!

support parental-consent laws on abortion - I have a daughter - you bet!

want a ban on "partial-birth" abortion - I'm not a proponent of abortion, late term or not, but how do you legislate against it? Ever seen a "partial birth abortion"? I have an it ain't pretty.
 

FoBoT

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Originally posted by: Riprorin

Limited immigration - Not really up on the topic, but there should be some rational controls.


support the death penalty - Sure. Some people deserve it.

are morally troubled by cloning - I guess so, but I have more pressing issues to think about.


look favorably on the Boy Scouts - Damn straight!

i am for open boarders, if somebody wants to come and work/pay taxes, let them in

death penalty -> killem all and let god sort'em out

cloning - no problem, the general public has no idea what is really involved, it is just a non-traditional source of genetic material

boy scouts - i was one, it is a private organization , they can make any rules they want to
 

CurtisEbear

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Originally posted by: FoBoT
Originally posted by: Riprorin

death penalty -> killem all and let god sort'em out


edit: i think i botched the quote dealy...maybe not, but the truth is, i dont know how to use it. I shall now go hang my head in shame.
 

gopunk

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Racial preferences - discrimination based on race is wrong, no matter what you call it.
Limited immigration - against
resent benefits for illegal immigrants - Of course.
support the death penalty - Sure. Some people deserve it.
are morally troubled by cloning - I guess so, but I have more pressing issues to think about.
oppose gay marriage - It ain't for me but whatever floats your boat.
look favorably on the Boy Scouts - don't care... it's a non issue for me
support parental-consent laws on abortion - nope
want a ban on "partial-birth" abortion - nope
war on iraq - undecided
violent form of punishment for children (such as spankings, beatings) - nope
women in the military and other traditionally male jobs - sure, as long as they are just as capable as the guys
 

Kadarin

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Originally posted by: Riprorin
Racial preferences - Given equal qualifications, I have no problem giving the edge to a minority individual.

Hell no. The edge should be based on personality, as in who would be the better fit within the organization. If the two candidates are equivalent there, selection should be random, or on some other factor that I'm overlooking. It should NOT be based on race. Period.

support parental-consent laws on abortion - I have a daughter - you bet!

Not every parent is as understanding and supportive of their children as you are. I consider abortion to be a necessary evil, and believe there are definitely circumstances where the parents should not be brought into it.
 

notfred

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Originally posted by: FoBoT
Originally posted by: Riprorin

Limited immigration - Not really up on the topic, but there should be some rational controls.


support the death penalty - Sure. Some people deserve it.

are morally troubled by cloning - I guess so, but I have more pressing issues to think about.


look favorably on the Boy Scouts - Damn straight!

i am for open boarders, if somebody wants to come and work/pay taxes, let them in

death penalty -> killem all and let god sort'em out

cloning - no problem, the general public has no idea what is really involved, it is just a non-traditional source of genetic material

boy scouts - i was one, it is a private organization , they can make any rules they want to

I guess you wouldn't mind if I shot you in the face and let god sort it out?
 

jlee

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Not every parent is as understanding and supportive of their children as you are. I consider abortion to be a necessary evil, and believe there are definitely circumstances where the parents should not be brought into it.

In the words of Mother Theresa.. "It is a poverty to decide that a child must die so that you may live as you wish."
 

gopunk

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Originally posted by: notfred
Originally posted by: FoBoT
Originally posted by: Riprorin

Limited immigration - Not really up on the topic, but there should be some rational controls.


support the death penalty - Sure. Some people deserve it.

are morally troubled by cloning - I guess so, but I have more pressing issues to think about.


look favorably on the Boy Scouts - Damn straight!

i am for open boarders, if somebody wants to come and work/pay taxes, let them in

death penalty -> killem all and let god sort'em out

cloning - no problem, the general public has no idea what is really involved, it is just a non-traditional source of genetic material

boy scouts - i was one, it is a private organization , they can make any rules they want to

I guess you wouldn't mind if I shot you in the face and let god sort it out?

maybe this thread would be better if we didn't question the opinion of others. otherwise it will probably just turn into another flamefest,...
 

SuperTool

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Racial preferences - Against. given equal qualifications flip a coin.

Limited immigration - For. Unfortunately American education system is not up to producing qualified labor to fill all jobs. If companies can't bring qualified labor to the jobs, they'll take jobs to qualified labor.

resent benefits for illegal immigrants - Only if they have to come in to pick them up, at which point they should be deported.

support the death penalty - Against. Hard labor for life.

are morally troubled by cloning - Not morally, but I am troubled by cloning, and genetic experimentation on humans. I don't think we should be changing the very nature of who we are.

oppose gay marriage - not the idea, I just don't think "marriage" should be the term for it.

look favorably on the Boy Scouts - No, but they have a right to limit their membership, and I have a right not to like them for it.

support parental-consent laws on abortion - No, teens are under enough pressure as it is. I don't think parents should be able to force their kids to carry a baby to term.

want a ban on "partial-birth" abortion - Yes. I think abortion should be limited to a couple months.


 

notfred

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Originally posted by: gopunk
Originally posted by: notfred
Originally posted by: FoBoT
Originally posted by: Riprorin

Limited immigration - Not really up on the topic, but there should be some rational controls.


support the death penalty - Sure. Some people deserve it.

are morally troubled by cloning - I guess so, but I have more pressing issues to think about.


look favorably on the Boy Scouts - Damn straight!

i am for open boarders, if somebody wants to come and work/pay taxes, let them in

death penalty -> killem all and let god sort'em out

cloning - no problem, the general public has no idea what is really involved, it is just a non-traditional source of genetic material

boy scouts - i was one, it is a private organization , they can make any rules they want to

I guess you wouldn't mind if I shot you in the face and let god sort it out?

maybe this thread would be better if we didn't question the opinion of others. otherwise it will probably just turn into another flamefest,...

That would be boring.
 

Kadarin

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Originally posted by: CadetLee
Not every parent is as understanding and supportive of their children as you are. I consider abortion to be a necessary evil, and believe there are definitely circumstances where the parents should not be brought into it.

In the words of Mother Theresa.. "It is a poverty to decide that a child must die so that you may live as you wish."

The issue is not the legality or morality of abortion, but that of parental consent. I would love to debate the latter with you, but as for the former, there is no debate.
 

FoBoT

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Originally posted by: notfred
I guess you wouldn't mind if I shot you in the face and let god sort it out?

huh, any system of justice is going to have flaws and mistakes will be made, there is no perfect system of justice

so we can have anarchy , where no one is brought to justice by the government or we can try to use a system that is flawed , in certain ways

with this in mind, a system that includes capital punishment is ok in my opinion

some innocent people are sure to be mistakenly included , it is very unfortunate and improvements are welcome, but i don't think a system without capital punishment is the answer