Where do we all end up with all of this censorship?

[mugs]

Originally posted by: Amused
Every individual and business has the right to self censor.

Every individual and business has the right to protest and boycott to urge someone to self censor.

I see nothing wrong here. What we have are a group of individuals asking a business to self censor.

Everyone has the right to protest and boycott for any reason, no matter how innane. It is up to the business if they choose to cave, or not.

:thumbsup:

 

[Gibson486]

What the???? I think what they did was more overly done (come on, the joke is....what....20 years old) than offensive. if that is the best material they have, then maybe they should be fired.

 

[Crucial]

Originally posted by: skace

Originally posted by: fisheerman
I think my point is not wether it is "free" but it is available to anyone without them personally having to pay unlike cable. Your scenerio of it not being free and someone having to pay for it can also be applied to CBS or any over the air station.

someone somewhere is paying for it.

The major difference is that you can buy a radio and get all this. You cannot buy a TV and automatically get all this. Sure, you can break into your neighbors house and watch his cable, use binoculars and view through his windows, watch it at a car dealership or other location, you could use the internet at a library or place of employment. But all of these utilizations are either illegal (breaking and entering to use your neighbors tv) to restricted (just about every other scenario). So despite the fact that you listed a million exceptions, the point still stands.

In other words, Cable TV and the Internet are both services that you subscribe to. OTA radio is NOT.

So CHANGE THE CHANNEL. You are not forced to listen to anything.

 

[skace]

Originally posted by: Crucial
So CHANGE THE CHANNEL. You are not forced to listen to anything.

Why would I want to change the channel? Are you sure you should be responding to things you don't understand?

 

[Linflas]

This is where we end up.

FCC Seeks To Rein In Violent TV Shows
Agency Will Recommend Law to Regulate Broadcast And Basic Cable Content

I am much more concerned about this government censorship than I am by corporations choosing what goes out over their broadcasts.

 

[otispunkmeyer]

life its self is ofensive. you cannot get through life with out something offending you, people who think otherwise are daft, and people who think they can do something about it have way to much time on their hands and should seek a proper job

 

[otispunkmeyer]

heh theyd love jeremy clarkson... calling bus drivers nazi's and all. i think the best thing i ever heard him say on this stupid PC and health an safety was

H&S inspector : "what if a camera man trips over that cable?"
JC: "well he shall have to stand back up again"

 

[skace]

From that article

particularly during times when children are likely to be viewers -- typically between 6 a.m. and 10 p.m., FCC sources say.

Shouldn't kids be in bed by 8pm? What the hell, 8pm-10pm is my time.

First Amendment experts and television industry executives, however, say that any attempt to regulate TV violence faces high constitutional hurdles -- particularly regarding cable, because consumers choose to buy its programming.

And that answers the point from above FYI.

Hope the FCC falls flat on their face, and if they don't, hope all the good networks go the direction of HBO.

 

[Aikouka]

Originally posted by: Linflas
This is where we end up.

FCC Seeks To Rein In Violent TV Shows
Agency Will Recommend Law to Regulate Broadcast And Basic Cable Content

typically between 6 a.m. and 10 p.m., FCC sources say.

Bastards, that's when I try to go to bed! :|

Is it a viable statement to say that the government is "stepping in" because most parents won't parent their children... so quite simply, someone has to.

EDIT:

Originally posted by: skace

First Amendment experts and television industry executives, however, say that any attempt to regulate TV violence faces high constitutional hurdles -- particularly regarding cable, because consumers choose to buy its programming.

And that answers the point from above FYI.

Hope the FCC falls flat on their face, and if they don't, hope all the good networks go the direction of HBO.

Yeah, but you don't pay per channel. You actively buy certain packages for certain channels, amirite? The rest of the channels, you don't actively choose to buy, so should that argument even be valid? Maybe if you could subscribe per channel. Because with that argument, you could say that's akin to buying a radio (buying a certain channel package) and just happening upon questionable material.

 

[Linflas]

Originally posted by: skace
From that article

particularly during times when children are likely to be viewers -- typically between 6 a.m. and 10 p.m., FCC sources say.

Shouldn't kids be in bed by 8pm? What the hell, 8pm-10pm is my time.

First Amendment experts and television industry executives, however, say that any attempt to regulate TV violence faces high constitutional hurdles -- particularly regarding cable, because consumers choose to buy its programming.

And that answers the point from above FYI.

Hope the FCC falls flat on their face, and if they don't, hope all the good networks go the direction of HBO.

It is not the FCC's fault, they are acting at the behest of the 535 morons they ultimately answer to.

The report -- commissioned by members of Congress in 2004 and based on hundreds of comments from parents, industry officials, academic experts and others -- concludes that Congress has the authority to regulate "excessive violence" and to extend its reach for the first time into basic-cable TV channels that consumers pay to receive.

And for the inevitable anti Bush/Republican diatribes:

The FCC's conclusions probably will form the basis of legislation being drafted by Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D-W.Va.), says spokeswoman Wendy Morigi. Rockefeller, who is a Commerce Committee member, will introduce his bill after he has digested the FCC's recommendations, she said.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Thank god for satellite radio. Since I got Sirius a couple months ago I haven't listened to the radio at all. All of terrestrial radio sucks monkey balls.

 

[GoPackGo]

Originally posted by: sao123
welcome to capitalist america... where the only people you can legally discriminate against are the poor.

Oh..so there are no poor anywhere else in the world??? :roll:

 

[DivideBYZero]

What will happen? The entire TV screen will be blurred out and the soundtrack will be, '<BEEEP> ... <BEEP> the <BEEEEEEEEP> <BEEEEEEEP><BEEEEEEEEP> <BEEEEEEEP>with<BEEEEP> <BEEEEP>.

 

[sao123]

Originally posted by: GoPackGo

Originally posted by: sao123
welcome to capitalist america... where the only people you can legally discriminate against are the poor.

Oh..so there are no poor anywhere else in the world??? :roll:

On the contrary...my satirish comment was directed solely at america...
America... the land of no discrimination... where all races & sexes have equal rights...
Unless... you are poor. Then you can be legally discriminated against.

 

[Kirby]

Originally posted by: sao123

Originally posted by: GoPackGo

Originally posted by: sao123
welcome to capitalist america... where the only people you can legally discriminate against are the poor.

Oh..so there are no poor anywhere else in the world??? :roll:

On the contrary...my satirish comment was directed solely at america...
America... the land of no discrimination... where all races & sexes have equal rights...
Unless... you are poor. Then you can be legally discriminated against.

You lost me. What do poor people have to do with censorship?

 

[ThePresence]

Censorship goes on in private enterprise all the time. Hell, some companies even tell their employees what they can and cannot wear! OMG, our freedom of expression is gone! A company can decide what kind of message it wants to send. If it was the government doing this, then I'd agree, we have a censorship problem.

 

[Aikouka]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Thank god for satellite radio. Since I got Sirius a couple months ago I haven't listened to the radio at all. All of terrestrial radio sucks monkey balls.

I have a hard time listening to XM when compared to my favorite local radio station. Although I've been hearing this weird song on The Squizz XM48 lately called "pornstarchampion"... some sort of weird remake of "We Will Rock You"... it's odd, but enthralls me every time.

 

[Dacalo]

What the hell, I am Asian and the Organization of Chinese Americans should shove this up in their ass. Damn, why are some people so sensitive?

One of the DJs is married to a Korean woman BTW.

 

[FlashG]

More ratings. These guys always come back in a while so what?s the problem? O and A did. Even at&t did but that?s another subject.

 

[MagnusTheBrewer]

As much as I dislike lame ass talk show shock jocks and their ilk for being offensive rather than thought provoking, I lived through major censorship in the '70's and it sucked.

Rock and Roll wasn't played on any radio stations, 'radical' publications like Rolling Stone and Mother Earth News could only be bought at Adult bookstores, concerts were raided by police for salacious stage shows and, events in the middle east weren't reported on tv, newspapers or radio. But, every red blooded American kid got to watch the "war at 5:00."

Where was this backwater of censorship?

Minneapolis, Minnesota 1968 - 1975

 

[Kadarin]

Everyone knows that "freedom of speech" only applies to speech that most people agree with...

 

[MagnusTheBrewer]

Originally posted by: Astaroth33
Everyone knows that "freedom of speech" only applies to speech that most people agree with...

In the case of the censorship in Minneapolis, it wasn't the majority, it was the "gang of four" who between them owned or controlled all the media in Minneapolis at the time. The majority did buy in to their idea of protecting the heartland from disturbing influences though.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: Aikouka

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Thank god for satellite radio. Since I got Sirius a couple months ago I haven't listened to the radio at all. All of terrestrial radio sucks monkey balls.

I have a hard time listening to XM when compared to my favorite local radio station. Although I've been hearing this weird song on The Squizz XM48 lately called "pornstarchampion"... some sort of weird remake of "We Will Rock You"... it's odd, but enthralls me every time.

I really only listen to Howard Stern. Call him what you will but he speaks his mind and he's definitely not stupid. If he's not on or it's a repeat I'll just listen to my iPod in the car.