Where do we all end up with all of this censorship?

[fisheerman]

It looks like even basic comedy is going to be targeted if it contains any satire about another religion, culture, or race.

This country is going to get really boring if this is in fact the way we go...........

It looks like hate speach is going to be just about anything that anyone finds offense:frown:

How soon until someone takes on the Bible or religion as hate speach?

Asian American group wants jockeys fired now


Also how come no one is going after people like dave chappelle, mencia and other comics?

I watched a skit last night on chappelle that had to be about the most racist thing I have ever seen?

-fish

 

[imported_Mike]

Originally posted by: fisheerman
It looks like even basic comedy is going to be targeted if it contains any satire about another religion, culture, or race.

This country is going to get really boring if this is in fact the way we go...........

It looks like hate speach is going to be just about anything that anyone finds offense:frown:

How soon until someone takes on the Bible or religion as hate speach?

Asian American group wants jockeys fired now


Also how come no one is going after people like dave chappelle, mencia and other comics?

I watched a skit last night on chappelle that had to be about the most racist thing I have ever seen?

-fish

Racism only exists in whites. :roll:

 

[skace]

Dave Chappelle did an awesome job of making fun of people on his show. It always skirted the line. What was his most racist thing? The black white supremacist? And even that was an incredibly well done piece.

Comedy Central does a lot of censorship, but between Mencia, Chappelle and South Park, they've really pushed a lot of impressive stuff through.

 

[fisheerman]

Originally posted by: skace
Dave Chappelle did an awesome job of making fun of people on his show. It always skirted the line. What was his most racist thing? The black white supremacist? And even that was an incredibly well done piece.

Comedy Central does a lot of censorship, but between Mencia, Chappelle and South Park, they've really pushed a lot of impressive stuff through.

so are you saying that there is a difference between what Mencia, Chappelle and South Park do and what these radio guys were doing?

I would have to say it is the same thing.

If so why is one getting punished over the other?

i think the other poster may be onto something though

-fish

 

[skace]

Comedy Central sticks up for their shows and CBS doesn't? If CC lost Dave Chappelle (or whatever is left of it), Mencia and Southpark, it would lose a massive source of revenue. What the hell would it replace it with? Madtv reruns? Obviously CC is going to fight harder to keep these shows on. And what the hell do white people have to do with it, Southpark is written by white people and they've made fun of everything and everyone

 

[moshquerade]

you will never eliminate double standards.

what i get a kick out of is all this censorship being cried out for by the same people who would protest in a heartbeat if their own "freedom of speech" was infringed upon.

 

[AMCRambler]

The difference between CBS radio and Comedy Central is pretty much obvious. Comedy Central is an extended cable channel. If you want that channel and it's content, you have to pay for it. This gives them a lot more leeway on what they can air. CBS radio is over the air, freely available to anyone who wants to listen to it. As such they have to be sure they stay within stricter boundaries as set forth by the FCC.
I'm not saying I agree with this, but that is the reason I see for the double standard. I'm of the opinion that if you don't like what they're saying and you don't want to hear it, change the channel. Everyone feels like along with the our right to free speech comes the right to not be offended by what anyone else sais. Seems like lately this is the case.

 

[pontifex]

Originally posted by: AMCRambler
The difference between CBS radio and Comedy Central is pretty much obvious. Comedy Central is an extended cable channel. If you want that channel and it's content, you have to pay for it. This gives them a lot more leeway on what they can air. CBS radio is over the air, freely available to anyone who wants to listen to it. As such they have to be sure they stay within stricter boundaries as set forth by the FCC.
I'm not saying I agree with this, but that is the reason I see for the double standard. I'm of the opinion that if you don't like what they're saying and you don't want to hear it, change the channel. Everyone feels like along with the our right to free speech comes the right to not be offended by what anyone else sais. Seems like lately this is the case.

yeah, if you don't like it, change the channel. no one is forcing to listen or watch

 

[fisheerman]

Originally posted by: AMCRambler
The difference between CBS radio and Comedy Central is pretty much obvious. Comedy Central is an extended cable channel. If you want that channel and it's content, you have to pay for it. This gives them a lot more leeway on what they can air. CBS radio is over the air, freely available to anyone who wants to listen to it. As such they have to be sure they stay within stricter boundaries as set forth by the FCC.
I'm not saying I agree with this, but that is the reason I see for the double standard. I'm of the opinion that if you don't like what they're saying and you don't want to hear it, change the channel. Everyone feels like along with the our right to free speech comes the right to not be offended by what anyone else sais. Seems like lately this is the case.

I don't think the censorship of IMUS and these guys is because they were breaking some FCC laws though?

Also is there a difference between if you pay for it and it is offensive and if it is freely distirbuted over the airways? what about youtube and the internet? it is free to everyone.

just thoughts!

 

[pontifex]

Originally posted by: fisheerman

Originally posted by: AMCRambler
The difference between CBS radio and Comedy Central is pretty much obvious. Comedy Central is an extended cable channel. If you want that channel and it's content, you have to pay for it. This gives them a lot more leeway on what they can air. CBS radio is over the air, freely available to anyone who wants to listen to it. As such they have to be sure they stay within stricter boundaries as set forth by the FCC.
I'm not saying I agree with this, but that is the reason I see for the double standard. I'm of the opinion that if you don't like what they're saying and you don't want to hear it, change the channel. Everyone feels like along with the our right to free speech comes the right to not be offended by what anyone else sais. Seems like lately this is the case.

I don't think the censorship of IMUS and these guys is because they were breaking some FCC laws though?

Also is there a difference between if you pay for it and it is offensive and if it is freely distirbuted over the airways? what about youtube and the internet? it is free to everyone.

just thoughts!

you generally have topay to view the internet

 

[fisheerman]

Originally posted by: pontifex

Originally posted by: fisheerman

Originally posted by: AMCRambler
The difference between CBS radio and Comedy Central is pretty much obvious. Comedy Central is an extended cable channel. If you want that channel and it's content, you have to pay for it. This gives them a lot more leeway on what they can air. CBS radio is over the air, freely available to anyone who wants to listen to it. As such they have to be sure they stay within stricter boundaries as set forth by the FCC.
I'm not saying I agree with this, but that is the reason I see for the double standard. I'm of the opinion that if you don't like what they're saying and you don't want to hear it, change the channel. Everyone feels like along with the our right to free speech comes the right to not be offended by what anyone else sais. Seems like lately this is the case.

I don't think the censorship of IMUS and these guys is because they were breaking some FCC laws though?

Also is there a difference between if you pay for it and it is offensive and if it is freely distirbuted over the airways? what about youtube and the internet? it is free to everyone.

just thoughts!

you generally have topay to view the internet

huh?

any library or any public school has internet access as well as most workplaces that people don't pay for?

hell rural NC setup free internet cafes for the poor!

 

[pontifex]

Originally posted by: fisheerman

Originally posted by: pontifex

Originally posted by: fisheerman

Originally posted by: AMCRambler
The difference between CBS radio and Comedy Central is pretty much obvious. Comedy Central is an extended cable channel. If you want that channel and it's content, you have to pay for it. This gives them a lot more leeway on what they can air. CBS radio is over the air, freely available to anyone who wants to listen to it. As such they have to be sure they stay within stricter boundaries as set forth by the FCC.
I'm not saying I agree with this, but that is the reason I see for the double standard. I'm of the opinion that if you don't like what they're saying and you don't want to hear it, change the channel. Everyone feels like along with the our right to free speech comes the right to not be offended by what anyone else sais. Seems like lately this is the case.

I don't think the censorship of IMUS and these guys is because they were breaking some FCC laws though?

Also is there a difference between if you pay for it and it is offensive and if it is freely distirbuted over the airways? what about youtube and the internet? it is free to everyone.

just thoughts!

you generally have topay to view the internet

huh?

any library or any public school has internet access as well as most workplaces that people don't pay for?

hell rural NC setup free internet cafes for the poor!

hence why i said "generally" or did you miss that?
also, you usually aren't allowed to view stuff like that on your work PC or school/library PC

 

[ryan256]

Originally posted by: Mike

Racism only exists in whites. :roll:

QFFT! :|

 

[Zolty]

I still don't understand how it is sexist.....

VICKI SHU SMOLIN, ORGANIZATION OF CHINESE AMERICANS: Yes, we want them fired.

COLMES: Why?

SMOLIN: They went over the line. What they did was derogatory, was extremely sexist and it was racist. It went over the line.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: moshquerade
you will never eliminate double standards.

what i get a kick out of is all this censorship being cried out for by the same people who would protest in a heartbeat if their own "freedom of speech" was infringed upon.

Just all part of the "Pussification of America" being done on purpose and everyone falls for it.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Originally posted by: fisheerman

Originally posted by: pontifex

Originally posted by: fisheerman

Originally posted by: AMCRambler
The difference between CBS radio and Comedy Central is pretty much obvious. Comedy Central is an extended cable channel. If you want that channel and it's content, you have to pay for it. This gives them a lot more leeway on what they can air. CBS radio is over the air, freely available to anyone who wants to listen to it. As such they have to be sure they stay within stricter boundaries as set forth by the FCC.
I'm not saying I agree with this, but that is the reason I see for the double standard. I'm of the opinion that if you don't like what they're saying and you don't want to hear it, change the channel. Everyone feels like along with the our right to free speech comes the right to not be offended by what anyone else sais. Seems like lately this is the case.

I don't think the censorship of IMUS and these guys is because they were breaking some FCC laws though?

Also is there a difference between if you pay for it and it is offensive and if it is freely distirbuted over the airways? what about youtube and the internet? it is free to everyone.

just thoughts!

you generally have topay to view the internet

huh?

any library or any public school has internet access as well as most workplaces that people don't pay for?

hell rural NC setup free internet cafes for the poor!

someone's paying for it either way. school/library=taxpayers, workplace=company money, internet cafe=owner of the cafe. internet access is NEVER free, even if you're not the one paying for it.

 

[fisheerman]

Originally posted by: ch33zw1z

Originally posted by: fisheerman

Originally posted by: pontifex

Originally posted by: fisheerman

Originally posted by: AMCRambler
The difference between CBS radio and Comedy Central is pretty much obvious. Comedy Central is an extended cable channel. If you want that channel and it's content, you have to pay for it. This gives them a lot more leeway on what they can air. CBS radio is over the air, freely available to anyone who wants to listen to it. As such they have to be sure they stay within stricter boundaries as set forth by the FCC.
I'm not saying I agree with this, but that is the reason I see for the double standard. I'm of the opinion that if you don't like what they're saying and you don't want to hear it, change the channel. Everyone feels like along with the our right to free speech comes the right to not be offended by what anyone else sais. Seems like lately this is the case.

I don't think the censorship of IMUS and these guys is because they were breaking some FCC laws though?

Also is there a difference between if you pay for it and it is offensive and if it is freely distirbuted over the airways? what about youtube and the internet? it is free to everyone.

just thoughts!

you generally have topay to view the internet

huh?

any library or any public school has internet access as well as most workplaces that people don't pay for?

hell rural NC setup free internet cafes for the poor!

someone's paying for it either way. school/library=taxpayers, workplace=company money, internet cafe=owner of the cafe. internet access is NEVER free, even if you're not the one paying for it.

I think my point is not wether it is "free" but it is available to anyone without them personally having to pay unlike cable. Your scenerio of it not being free and someone having to pay for it can also be applied to CBS or any over the air station.

someone somewhere is paying for it.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Originally posted by: fisheerman

Originally posted by: ch33zw1z

Originally posted by: fisheerman

Originally posted by: pontifex

Originally posted by: fisheerman

Originally posted by: AMCRambler
The difference between CBS radio and Comedy Central is pretty much obvious. Comedy Central is an extended cable channel. If you want that channel and it's content, you have to pay for it. This gives them a lot more leeway on what they can air. CBS radio is over the air, freely available to anyone who wants to listen to it. As such they have to be sure they stay within stricter boundaries as set forth by the FCC.
I'm not saying I agree with this, but that is the reason I see for the double standard. I'm of the opinion that if you don't like what they're saying and you don't want to hear it, change the channel. Everyone feels like along with the our right to free speech comes the right to not be offended by what anyone else sais. Seems like lately this is the case.

I don't think the censorship of IMUS and these guys is because they were breaking some FCC laws though?

Also is there a difference between if you pay for it and it is offensive and if it is freely distirbuted over the airways? what about youtube and the internet? it is free to everyone.

just thoughts!

you generally have topay to view the internet

huh?

any library or any public school has internet access as well as most workplaces that people don't pay for?

hell rural NC setup free internet cafes for the poor!

someone's paying for it either way. school/library=taxpayers, workplace=company money, internet cafe=owner of the cafe. internet access is NEVER free, even if you're not the one paying for it.

I think my point is not wether it is "free" but it is available to anyone without them personally having to pay unlike cable. Your scenerio of it not being free and someone having to pay for it can also be applied to CBS or any over the air station.

someone somewhere is paying for it.

Understood, maybe you should bring this to the attention of the people who think banning everything on public airways is a good thing to do. Clear Channel and other major broadcasting stations must be pissed if they start losing all their "cutting edge" hosts, who will eventually end up on Sirius or XM where they shouldn't be able to be banned or fined.

 

[Amused]

Every individual and business has the right to self censor.

Every individual and business has the right to protest and boycott to urge someone to self censor.

I see nothing wrong here. What we have are a group of individuals asking a business to self censor.

Everyone has the right to protest and boycott for any reason, no matter how innane. It is up to the business if they choose to cave, or not.

 

[Aikouka]

Originally posted by: fisheerman
I watched a skit last night on chappelle that had to be about the most racist thing I have ever seen?

How about you look up Chappelle's stance on racism and try that again. The entire reason he quit his show is because he felt he was creating racists rather than trying to make fun of everyone equally and show people that there are funny little nuances about everyone regardless of color, etc. I don't remember what the person said, but he said he came to this conclusion after someone shouted a racist remark during one of his shows or something to that regard.

I don't think that these other people should be censored though. If you really don't like it, you aren't forced to listen.

 

[mwtgg]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: moshquerade
you will never eliminate double standards.

what i get a kick out of is all this censorship being cried out for by the same people who would protest in a heartbeat if their own "freedom of speech" was infringed upon.

Just all part of the "Pussification of America" being done on purpose and everyone falls for it.

As the biggest pussy chimes in...

 

[sao123]

welcome to capitalist america... where the only people you can legally discriminate against are the poor.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: sao123
welcome to capitalist america... where the only people you can legally discriminate against are the poor.

WTF does that have to do with this thread???

 

[mugs]

How ironic, someone was just posting in another thread about how "strong races" like Asians don't complain about being victims of racism. :laugh:

 

[skace]

Originally posted by: fisheerman
I think my point is not wether it is "free" but it is available to anyone without them personally having to pay unlike cable. Your scenerio of it not being free and someone having to pay for it can also be applied to CBS or any over the air station.

someone somewhere is paying for it.

The major difference is that you can buy a radio and get all this. You cannot buy a TV and automatically get all this. Sure, you can break into your neighbors house and watch his cable, use binoculars and view through his windows, watch it at a car dealership or other location, you could use the internet at a library or place of employment. But all of these utilizations are either illegal (breaking and entering to use your neighbors tv) to restricted (just about every other scenario). So despite the fact that you listed a million exceptions, the point still stands.

In other words, Cable TV and the Internet are both services that you subscribe to. OTA radio is NOT.