where do i stand politically

HybridSquirrel

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I don't need to start a dispute on what I do and don't believe or why it is good or bad. I am just curious on where I stand. I had a conversation in my poli-sci class and it really made me think about it. I think I am in the middle.

I support gay rights, because I love lesbians.
I support gun rights, except to violent criminals.
I support abortion.
I support religious freedom, no matter if you are muslim, buddhist, or christian.
I support free speech, but believe people should keep their mouth shut if all their looking for is to troll people.
I support higher taxes on everyone, but more so on the 250k+ bracket.
I support public programs (wellfare, health care, ect.)
I support the right of immigrant workers, because I sure as hell don't want to work on a farm.
I support witch craft and masturbation.
I think people should leave religious biased out of politics and decision making.
I also think we should legalize and tax drug use. People are going to do it anyway, why not make some cash off of it. Have you seen those mexican drug dealers houses? One of those guys had a fucking bengal tiger. A FUCKING TIGER.

Did I miss any other hot topics right now? So where do I stand?
 
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MJinZ

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I don't need to start a dispute on what I do and don't believe or why it is good or bad. I am just curious on where I stand. I had a conversation in my poli-sci class and it really made me think about it. I think I am in the middle.

I support gay rights, because I love lesbians.
I support gun rights, except to violent criminals.
I support abortion.
I support religious freedom, no matter if you are muslim, buddhist, or christian.
I support free speech, but believe people should keep their mouth shut if all their looking for is to troll people.
I support higher taxes on everyone, but more so on the 250k+ bracket.
I support public programs (wellfare, health care, ect.)
I support the right of immigrant workers, because I sure as hell don't want to work on a farm.
I support witch craft and masturbation.
I think people should leave religious biased out of politics and decision making.
I also think we should legalize and tax drug use. People are going to do it anyway, why not make some cash off of it. Have you seen those mexican drug dealers houses? One of those guys had a fucking bengal tiger. A FUCKING TIGER.

Did I miss any other hot topics right now? So where do I stand?

Retarded Liberal Democrat

If you had any brains you wouldn't be supporting the illegal Mexicans and would open minded towards Trolls.
 

MJinZ

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ahh, well how am i a retarded liberal democrat if, by common definition, liberal democrats dont support gun rights? i sense a troll.

I had no idea the most liberal and democratic State in the USA (Massachusetts) had banned guns! Wait let me check mine...... Yup still there.
 

HybridSquirrel

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I had no idea the most liberal and democratic State in the USA (Massachusetts) had banned guns! Wait let me check mine...... Yup still there.

it was sort of internet sarcasm. if youve browsed any gun forums, they are scared of liberal democrats because they are all, automatically for being a liberal democrat, going to ban guns and take them away from everyone who owns them.
 

MJinZ

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it was sort of internet sarcasm. if youve browsed any gun forums, they are scared of liberal democrats because they are all automatically for being a liberal democrat going to ban guns.

Well clearly my response was also 1/2 sarcastic (the troll part). My posts are all like that. Only some people know this.
 

MotF Bane

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You don't fit either of the two parties - although anyone who isn't a complete partisan fucktard understands the parties don't care about what is best for the country.

I disagree with you on some of your points, but the big thing is that you are thinking, you aren't attaching yourself to a specific party or even grouping. Keep thinking, read up on the candidates, look at their opinions on the issues, and vote for the one that you like.
 

MotF Bane

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I had no idea the most liberal and democratic State in the USA (Massachusetts) had banned guns! Wait let me check mine...... Yup still there.

No, MA hasn't banned guns, they just have a completely retarded array of rules for it, and a bunch of the system is probably unconstitutional anyways.
 

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I support the right people have to their beliefs and that sexual orientation has more comparison to religious preference than to racial identity.

I support life, and hope that one day technology will allow women who do not want to carry a baby full term to be able to give the baby up and allow it to be transplanted else where to reach full term independent of its mother.

I do no support abortion as a method a population control.

I support religious freedom.

I support the freedom of privacy.

I support free enterprise.

I support an America that is the top the the industrial industries.

I support private contracts as long as they allow the parties to exit contract without threat to life and liberty.

I do not support human enslavement or trafficking.

I support the right to free land use.

I support the right of individuals to protect wildlife and declare nature reserves.

I support the right of individuals to domesticate any animal they are able to maintain in good health.

I support the development, manufacturing, and distribution of firearms for personal protection and sporting activities.

I support open border policy for the US if immigrants are taxed equally.

I support the idea of a flat tax, or fixed percentage. People that make more do pay more, but not grossly out of proposition than anyone else. This will cause less rich people to evade taxes and actually contribute.

I support the idea that the US should develop technology to be a world leader in renewable fuel sources, since now they are embarrassing far behind the technological curve.

I support the idea of popular voting to determine Presidential candidates from regions and overall election. In connection I support developments of analog technology that can tally votes without the aid of a digital voting to safe guard against election fraud.

I support the idea of less federal government and more power given locally within reason.
 

MotF Bane

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HybridSquirrel - how about the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq? Deficit spending? Patriot Act and other wiretapping measures? Military bases overseas? Illegal immigration/border security?
 

manimal

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I too have felt disenfranchised by both parties. I used to consider myself a republican but the party had moved so far right of me that it's clear to me that they are not my party. I am a fiscal conservative but I strongly advocate for the poor. I also believe in a womans right to choose and for the legalization of some illicit substances.

I really think the only real third party is the independent party. Let's me choose apposition based on my values not someone elses litmus test bs.....
 

Zebo

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Mainly liberal I'd say. Democrat seem best for you. No party will ever represent you 100%...there are 330 other million people they have to consider and 2 million that really matter who write the checks.
 

bfdd

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I too have felt disenfranchised by both parties. I used to consider myself a republican but the party had moved so far right of me that it's clear to me that they are not my party. I am a fiscal conservative but I strongly advocate for the poor. I also believe in a womans right to choose and for the legalization of some illicit substances.

I really think the only real third party is the independent party. Let's me choose apposition based on my values not someone elses litmus test bs.....

You could be awesome like I am and just not have a party affiliation. Honestly if you're not a politician and you're aligned with a political party you're probably an idiot who needs others to think for you anyways.
 

Zebo

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I am fiscal conservative who believes in paying as you go and that means taxing those that have if we want something like wars and social welfare.

I don't believe in free trade all you do is race to bottom with capital running govt labor laws to "compete" for instead of people.

I don't believe in importing liabilities but assets like any sane country does. Just try to get into most countries w/o 1 million in the bank, or skills or refugee/family status. We have enough liabilities as is who need to be made into assets before more are brought in.

I don't believe in abortion. It's selfish, piss poor planning, inhumane, and possibly murder late term.

I believe in free of religion and freedom from it most of all.

I believe in Constitution above all, the most perfect document in the history of man to the degree it's followed. That includes guns, private property, privacy etc
 
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HybridSquirrel

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HybridSquirrel - how about the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq? Deficit spending? Patriot Act and other wiretapping measures? Military bases overseas? Illegal immigration/border security?

how about the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq? there have been wars tehre for 2000 years, what makes this one any different? if people join the military and oppose war, they shouldnt have joined the military.
Deficit spending? spending to produce jobs = good. there is a huge public works program here (rebuilding roads and shit) that puts people in jobs. spending money on corporations that fail is retarded. It does certainly help stimulate the economy to an extent.
Patriot Act and other wiretapping measures? kinda fucked up, but so far as i know, the only people being prosecuted under this have been doing fucked up shit anyway. (pedos, terrorists, ect) if youre not fappin to loli while plotting to blow up shit theres nothing to worry about. they arent going to come after you if you're on T side on counter-strike
Military bases overseas? necessary for protection and quick intervention if needed.
Illegal immigration/border security? border security is important, but immigrants are also important. do you want to work out in the farms or pay 20 bucks a pound for beans because we dont have immigrant farms workers. The majority of the immigrants who come here come over for a good cause. they arent all illegal drug dealers and murderers. I do believe most of them are trying to make an honest living for their family. the same way 30 million "americans" did in the 1800s/early 1900s.
 

bfdd

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HybridSquirrel, legal immigrants are important, illegal ones are not. People who migrate legally and people who migrate illegally are two very different things. We should do everything we can to stop those that refuse to respect our immigration laws and do everything we can to accommodate those who do.
 

MotF Bane

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how about the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq? there have been wars tehre for 2000 years, what makes this one any different? if people join the military and oppose war, they shouldnt have joined the military.

But why should the United States be involved in two wars in the region? Do we have a good cause for invading two countries, spending our money, and losing the lives of our people for it? To my mind, no.

Deficit spending? spending to produce jobs = good. there is a huge public works program here (rebuilding roads and shit) that puts people in jobs. spending money on corporations that fail is retarded. It does certainly help stimulate the economy to an extent.

I disagree with your fiscal policy then. High taxes and high spending are not the way to go.

Patriot Act and other wiretapping measures? kinda fucked up, but so far as i know, the only people being prosecuted under this have been doing fucked up shit anyway. (pedos, terrorists, ect) if youre not fappin to loli while plotting to blow up shit theres nothing to worry about. they arent going to come after you if you're on T side on counter-strike

That's completely fucked up, and so is your justification. It doesn't matter if what you are doing is wrong or not wrong; it is a matter of the government has no justification, no cause, and no right to invade your reasonable expectation of privacy.

Military bases overseas? necessary for protection and quick intervention if needed.

Despite the large cost associated to it? Protecting who? Intervening in what?

Illegal immigration/border security? border security is important, but immigrants are also important. do you want to work out in the farms or pay 20 bucks a pound for beans because we dont have immigrant farms workers. The majority of the immigrants who come here come over for a good cause. they arent all illegal drug dealers and murderers. I do believe most of them are trying to make an honest living for their family. the same way 30 million "americans" did in the 1800s/early 1900s.

Are you missing the word "illegal"? We have a lawful process for immigration, which these people are short-circuiting. How is that fair to those going through the legal process of immigration? They spend far more time and money doing things the right way, and nothing is done to stop those who short-cut the system? Is that right? No, it is absolutely not. Forget the drug dealers, murderers, et cetera; I'll even be willing to forget the damage done to border towns and homes for this discussion. They are entering our nation with zero respect for our system of laws, and those who do respect our laws are getting screwed by it as a bonus.

So I'm getting an impression of you as a large government, high tax, high spending, hawkish type.