Where Did These Conservatives Come From?

[FelixDeCat]

Wheres Ralph Nader when you need him?

 

[MisterMe]

Originally posted by: FelixDeKat
Wheres Ralph Nader when you need him?

Last seen picking up his paycheck from the RNC

 

[1EZduzit]

Originally posted by: MisterMe

Originally posted by: FelixDeKat
Wheres Ralph Nader when you need him?

Last seen picking up his paycheck from the RNC

OPne thing about Ralph, he knows a good deal when he sees one, LOL

 

[Engineer]

Originally posted by: MisterMe

Originally posted by: FelixDeKat
Wheres Ralph Nader when you need him?

Last seen picking up his paycheck from the RNC

ROTFLMAO!!! :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

 

[Moonbeam]

I see the schmoo entered the thread and now it's 'punch the schmoo' time.

 

[daveshel]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

American troops are in Iraq on false pretenses. No one knows all the fateful consequences of this mistaken adventure. Bush's reelection would be seen as a vindication of aggression, and more aggression would likely follow. A continuing expenditure of blood, money, alliances, good will, and civil liberties is not a future to which to look forward.

The truth hurts, doesn't it.

Your opinion doesn't hurt at all. You are entitled to your incorrect opinion, but your wrong opinion doesn't "hurt" me - it only hurts you in the long-run.

CsG

Res ipsa loquitur.

 

[MisterMe]

Res ipsa loquitur.

Well you better translate since they won't know what that means without someone telling them...

Edit: But you know, We could tell them straight out and they would still believe the W if he told them something different...

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: MisterMe

Res ipsa loquitur.

Well you better translate since they won't know what that means without someone telling them...

Edit: But you know, We could tell them straight out and they would still believe the W if he told them something different...

Yeah, I don't speak Latin American.

 

[Infohawk]

Fear and anger, that's what allowed these brownshirts to come to the forefront. In modern every society there are always those that want to lash out at their countrymen and the world, whether it be blacks or Russians or now Muslims. Usually, we keep them in check. Right now they are being let loose because middle-america is scared of terrorists-- they're fear-addicts. They are scared of anything they don't understand-- and they really don't understand much. Let's beat back these fascists fearmongers.

 

[ReiAyanami]

neocon

neocon

new lie

 

[cwjerome]

You gotta love an article that hates on Republicans and conservatives for their supposed ignorance and propaganda, while pushing the ignorance and propaganda of Democrats and liberals. Wow... the pot calling the kettle black, how original. There's nothing quite as fun as watching the partisan sheep play their games. Some leftist puts out a laughingly biased hit piece and of course some people here just lap it up, nodding their heads at its objectivity and insight while stroking their Kerry/Edwards pins. Great entertainment!

From the very start, when a guys says people called him a "communist bastard," "asshole," "a piece of trash" and "scum of the earth," we're supposed to acknowledge how bad those dastardly Repugs are, when all I acknowledged was the similar but worse types of names I've been called here in P&N by very non-Repug people. The facts are oh-so critically analyzed when he states that they object to a domestic police state at war with the world... evidently assuming the standard, typical left-wing mantra that anyone right of center wants a police state and a war with the world. What objective clarity!!

Anyways... I don't expect the partisan zombies to see anything outside their partisan worldview, but I still like to comment on the blind political hacks from time to time.

 

[MisterMe]

See but I don't think you're realizing that this piece didn't come from a "leftist" - it came from a columnists that has been regarded as a conservative for many years. Looking at the piece yes, looks like nothing but another case of "don't you see it my way". But as this guy is trying to point out, that's as far as many conservatives will entertain a look. Bam! This is leftist crap! Moving on now! The thing is he's not a leftist bashing the right. He's on the right wondering why so many conservatives come out so thoughtlessly and question his allegience with the slurs as mentioned.

If you were truly sitting on a fence with one side right and one side left - a true center view...how could you not see this any other way? Read it again without predjudice and see if there are any more insights...

 

[cwjerome]

Ok I did, but re-read MY post and understand that it doesn't change my point. Yeah, I call him a leftist because he is taking a left-wing position, not because he's a conservative or liberal. But the point of my post was to show that he's criticizes one side for doing nasty things that people who believe as he does do also. Politics breeds hypocrisy... and the fact that he wrote what he did, and people here soak it up is just more of the same.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: cwjerome
Ok I did, but re-read MY post and understand that it doesn't change my point. Yeah, I call him a leftist because he is taking a left-wing position, not because he's a conservative or liberal. But the point of my post was to show that he's criticizes one side for doing nasty things that people who believe as he does do also. Politics breeds hypocrisy... and the fact that he wrote what he did, and people here soak it up is just more of the same.

Yeah...sounds like a real leftist:

http://www-hoover.stanford.edu/bios/roberts.html

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: cwjerome
Ok I did, but re-read MY post and understand that it doesn't change my point. Yeah, I call him a leftist because he is taking a left-wing position, not because he's a conservative or liberal. But the point of my post was to show that he's criticizes one side for doing nasty things that people who believe as he does do also. Politics breeds hypocrisy... and the fact that he wrote what he did, and people here soak it up is just more of the same.

Your inability to see his point is just more of the same. You are the alpha and omega. Or should I say an endlessly retreating series of knee jerk reactions. The think about being blind is that you don't see anywhere you look.

 

[MisterMe]

Sure, it's all more of the same but as a living breathing critical human being, an opinion of some sort must be decided on at some point. Seems to me that a policy of trust no one will not convince anybody of anything...

Edit: Seems to me he is critizing his own side for apparently turning him out for bringing up some valid points...so that wouldn't really be more of the same. It's quite different from those that he's writing about which won't stop for a second to consider even any potential value to his dissent...

 

[cwjerome]

Sure I agree, but it's hard to take a lot of this seriously when it's people wrapped up in their own little political mindset.

I tend to trust people more who argue ideas, not politics.

 

[MisterMe]

Originally posted by: cwjerome
Sure I agree, but it's hard to take a lot of this seriously when it's people wrapped up in their own little political mindset.

Aha! That's what I, and he is talking about...people being all wrapped up damning the consequences...

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: cwjerome
Sure I agree, but it's hard to take a lot of this seriously when it's people wrapped up in their own little political mindset.

I tend to trust people more who argue ideas, not politics.

This:
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"You gotta love an article that hates on Republicans and conservatives for their supposed ignorance and propaganda, while pushing the ignorance and propaganda of Democrats and liberals. Wow... the pot calling the kettle black, how original. There's nothing quite as fun as watching the partisan sheep play their games. Some leftist puts out a laughingly biased hit piece and of course some people here just lap it up, nodding their heads at its objectivity and insight while stroking their Kerry/Edwards pins. Great entertainment!

From the very start, when a guys says people called him a "communist bastard," "asshole," "a piece of trash" and "scum of the earth," we're supposed to acknowledge how bad those dastardly Repugs are, when all I acknowledged was the similar but worse types of names I've been called here in P&N by very non-Repug people. The facts are oh-so critically analyzed when he states that they object to a domestic police state at war with the world... evidently assuming the standard, typical left-wing mantra that anyone right of center wants a police state and a war with the world. What objective clarity!!

Anyways... I don't expect the partisan zombies to see anything outside their partisan worldview, but I still like to comment on the blind political hacks from time to time."
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Is not what I'd call arguing ideas. It sounded totally political to me.

 

[BBond]

RES IPSA LOQUITUR - Lat. "the thing speaks for itself." Refers to situations when it's assumed that a person's injury was caused by the negligent action of another party because the accident was the sort that wouldn't occur unless someone was negligent.

It's fun watching all the conservative brownshirts use the very tactics described in Paul Craig Roberts' article to prove his point. :laugh:

 

[daveshel]

Originally posted by: MisterMe
See but I don't think you're realizing that this piece didn't come from a "leftist" - it came from a columnists that has been regarded as a conservative for many years. Looking at the piece yes, looks like nothing but another case of "don't you see it my way". But as this guy is trying to point out, that's as far as many conservatives will entertain a look. Bam! This is leftist crap! Moving on now! The thing is he's not a leftist bashing the right. He's on the right wondering why so many conservatives come out so thoughtlessly and question his allegience with the slurs as mentioned.

If you were truly sitting on a fence with one side right and one side left - a true center view...how could you not see this any other way? Read it again without predjudice and see if there are any more insights...

:thumbsup:

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: BBond

RES IPSA LOQUITUR - Lat. "the thing speaks for itself." Refers to situations when it's assumed that a person's injury was caused by the negligent action of another party because the accident was the sort that wouldn't occur unless someone was negligent.

It's fun watching all the conservative brownshirts use the very tactics described in Paul Craig Roberts' article to prove his point. :laugh:

For all the good it did. When one cave dweller stepps into the light it doesn't mean others in the cave will see. It will only mean that one more person went insane.

 

[MisterMe]

Sweet!

 

[cwjerome]

Moonbeam, it's only political in the sense that we're discussing politics. I am not pushing a political agenda, I just love commenting on what I consider blind political rhetoric. It wasn't an argument, it was an observation... trust had really nothing to do with it.

 

[Squisher]

Isn't the author painting conservatives with a broad brush in the same way that he is accusing conservatives of dismissing all leftist arguments?

I don't think leftist are unpatriotic or evil. I think I understand why they want what they want. I just think that their solutions are misguided and doomed to failure.

Who isn't driven by ideology?

Are there conservatives that are mental drones? Sure. But, I don't think that is unique to only conservatives.