where did the scaling option go for Nvidia??

[taltamir]

BFG had posted a screenshot (then deleted it?) where 2 options were grayed out, but "do not scale" and "use my display's built in scaling" were still available. Is that not the issue the OP had?

no, what BFG posted is how it is SUPPOSED to look like.
you can see what the OP actually has and my explanation for why in post 16:
http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=30687225&postcount=16

notice the BFG and toyata screenshots look nothing like each other. This is because toyata's is showing what nvidia drivers let you change on a TV, while BFG is showing them for a monitor.

 

[Throckmorton]

no, what BFG posted is how it is SUPPOSED to look like.
you can see what the OP actually has and my explanation for why in post 16:
http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=30687225&postcount=16

notice the BFG and toyata screenshots look nothing like each other. This is because toyata's is showing what nvidia drivers let you change on a TV, while BFG is showing them for a monitor.

Oops, the image was there but it must have been blocked at work.

I thought he had the same issue as this:

 

[artonlangy]

I didnt think the HP3065 had built-in scaling.

 

[taltamir]

I didnt think the HP3065 had built-in scaling.

exactly... your issue is that your display doesn't have built in scaling... you should never use your built in scaling anyways, it is ALWAYS inferior to the GPU scaling...
your options are:
nVidia Scaling
nVidia Scaling with fixed aspect ratio <- PICK THIS!
no scaling

Where you are seeing this:

He is seeing:

 

[BFG10K]

Do you people not read what I write? That’s the only conclusion I can come to after reading some of the responses.

I said my issue was similar to Toyota’s because I didn’t a have a scaling option available to me that I should have.

I also clearly stated that my monitor’s scaling used to work on older drivers, but now the option is grayed out. That’s a broken driver.

nVidia’s scaling is crap; it doesn’t even work in some games (e.g. Quake DP). Besides, my reasons for using my display’s scaler (it does have one which always scales to 2560x1600) are my own.

 

[taltamir]

I said my issue was similar to Toyota&#8217;s because I didn&#8217;t a have a scaling option available to me that I should have.

I simply do not think they have anything in common.

I also clearly stated that my monitor&#8217;s scaling used to work on older drivers, but now the option is grayed out. That&#8217;s a broken driver.

If your monitor does have a built in scaler, then nvidia now mistakingly thinks it doesn't; that is indeed a bug.
The only solution I can see is filing a bug report with nvidia. I have found bugs before and had them resolved via bug reports.

 

[Throckmorton]

Do you people not read what I write? That’s the only conclusion I can come to after reading some of the responses.

I said my issue was similar to Toyota’s because I didn’t a have a scaling option available to me that I should have.

I also clearly stated that my monitor’s scaling used to work on older drivers, but now the option is grayed out. That’s a broken driver.

nVidia’s scaling is crap; it doesn’t even work in some games (e.g. Quake DP). Besides, my reasons for using my display’s scaler (it does have one which always scales to 2560x1600) are my own.

I read quickly and thought you had some insight and were posting that your problem was caused by the same issue as the OP's.

It's not really a similar problem though. He apparently doesn't have any scaling options because the drivers think his monitor is an HDTV, but you only have one grayed out.

 

[Throckmorton]

I simply do not think they have anything in common.


If your monitor does have a built in scaler, then nvidia now mistakingly thinks it doesn't; that is indeed a bug.
The only solution I can see is filing a bug report with nvidia. I have found bugs before and had them resolved via bug reports.

I always assumed "use my display's built in scaling" just sent the screen raw image data. Why would the video card know or care whether your screen can scale? For one thing, AFAIK every monitor is capable of scaling. For another, I have my Dell 2405FPW set to not scale, and that has zero effect on the nVidia scaling options. So I'm pretty sure that options is just the standard "don't do anything with the image, just send it to the monitor like videocards have done since the dawn of man".

The video card isn't somehow communicating with the monitor and telling it whether to scale or not. If you set the option to not scale, it sends the monitor a native res image, with black pixels filling in the dead space. It doesn't tell the monitor "hey you, don't scale this image!"

 

[taltamir]

The video card isn't somehow communicating with the monitor and telling it whether to scale or not. If you set the option to not scale, it sends the monitor a native res image, with black pixels filling in the dead space. It doesn't tell the monitor "hey you, don't scale this image!"

A connection can transfer more then just image data, for example, your monitor provides your computer with its make and model via its DVI cable, as well as valid resolutions, refresh rates, and more.
It would seem self evident that monitors can be ordered by the video card to scale, or not to scale. I have all 4 options available and have used all of them and it is clear that the video card DOES control whether my monitor scales or not.

 

[Khalan]

its not that nvidia removed it in the new driver, its that it somehow decided your monitor is a TV and is actively hiding it.

Registered here to post because I figured out a solution. Had this same problem - my monitor was running on a HD 1080p TV resolution instead of a PC resolution according to Nvidia.

Try this in the Nvidia control panel:

1. Go to Display > Change Resolution
2. Click on Customize
3. Create a new resolution matching your native resolution (1920x1080 for mine)
4. Test it, if it's successful, keep the change. Nvidia should now recognize your display as a PC monitor, rather than a TV.

I was then able to change my scaling options for it, which resulted in no stretching for 4:3 resolution games. Hope this helps.


(Using 260.99 drivers, GTX 460, Windows 7)

 

[AdrianAm]

It seems you can reach the scaling menu by changing to a lower resolution. For example change from 1920x1080 to 1280x1024 then you have old menu available. Select the option you want, confirm, then switch back to 1920x1080. Now the new HDTV menu is back but the settings you previously set is still working.
I have used this procedure to set my Nvidia drivers to no scale option and it worked with no problems.

Very helpful. But in the future please do not resurrect old threads.

-Thanks
ViRGE