Where can one go to get unbiased news?

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baydude

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No fake news, biased, left or right leaning. Where can one go to just get unbiased news?

No CNN, Fox News, WaPo, Breitbart, NY Times, infowars, etc
 
Blue_Max

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MajinCry said:
Talk to journalists directly. It's what Hitchens did.
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Like the journalists interviewing each other to get the answers they want on TV? Yeah... no way could these journalists have political agendas bought and paid for.
 
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Bias isn't really an issue on its own, you just have to be conscious that anything you read could potentially be presented misleadingly, if not out-right fabricated. Don't get butthurt over openly-biased opinion pieces and conflate that with the news being fake. When you run into sources that are so out of touch with reality (ZeroHedge, Salon, etc), you should stop going to those places as reliable sources, if only to save you time and/or potential embarrassment when they mislead you. Go straight to the sources of news, don't expect reporters to disclose every potential conflict of interest that may exist between their sources and their stories. When you see a ten second video clip or a single sentence quoted, make a habit of immediately searching for the full context and see if what was presented accurately described the situation. Try to find even greater context for big, new stories. So subject X is really hot in the press right now, what happens if you look at official statistics going back ten, twenty, fifty years? Information exists to inform you, not direct you, having a worthwhile opinion means going through the effort of challenging your opinions with facts that may be initially difficult to believe.

That's what I like about internet forums, in that even if it means anyone can post any kind of bullshit, there are usually those willing to shoot it down and immediately provide all sorts of other sources.
 
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Kazukian

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Honestly, they're all biased one way or another, I like NPR, they try, but generally fail.

http://www.csmonitor.com/ is good.

I look at all of them, just use some critical thinking when watching/reading.

Heck, I can't even catch up on tech on The Verge any more, it's really left biased and they keep hiring SJW's. Have talked to Nilay and Dieter, they're pretty convinced it's the direction they want to go.
 
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I like npr. They lean left, especially the entertainment shows, but the news is solid and fair, without shock lines and bombast.
 
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If you stick to mainstream media sources, you at least know that you are consuming news grounded in facts, produced by journalists who take the concept of journalistic integrity seriously as a matter of professional pride. This isnt to say the article might not be slanted, but it's generally pretty easy to discern what that bias may be. I've got several conservative friends who see Breitbart as some kind of right wing compliment to the NY Times, which is just laughable. The Times is the pinnacle of professional high quality journalism, which isnt to say they arent biased to the left, but they make damn sure that what the print is accurate based on the best information available. Breitbart prints shit daily that is of such low quality and questionable accuracy it would be a major scandal in the Times newsroom, while those at Breitbart could give a shit so long as they get people to believe it.
 
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Mxylplyx said:
If you stick to mainstream media sources, you at least know that you are consuming news grounded in facts, produced by journalists who take the concept of journalistic integrity seriously as a matter of professional pride. This isnt to say the article might not be slanted, but it's generally pretty easy to discern what that bias may be. I've got several conservative friends who see Breitbart as some kind of right wing compliment to the NY Times, which is just laughable. The Times is the pinnacle of professional high quality journalism, which isnt to say they arent biased to the left, but they make damn sure that what the print is accurate based on the best information available. Breitbart prints shit daily that is of such low quality and questionable accuracy it would be a major scandal in the Times newsroom, while those at Breitbart could give a shit so long as they get people to believe it.
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You may recall the "journalist" (Glenn Thrush) from Politico that was exposed in the Wikileaks hack of sending his political stories to the Hillary Clinton staffers before publication for the "OK". He even admitted he was a "Hack" for doing it. Well Glenn Thrush just got hired by THE NEW YORK TIMES after the whole expose. I'm sure you can all trust his "journalism" now.
 
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brycejones

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Blue_Max said:
Yeah, one pushes a narrative you like, one pushes a narrative you hate.
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No, Brietbart and Infowars push utter bullshit period. Both WaPo and the NY TImes will actually publish corrections can't say that about the Brietbart or Infowars.
 
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Infowars can admit they're wrong, they just word it a bit differently from other news organizations. "That story we believed yesterday is DISINFO and government LIES to distract us from the REAL TRUTH!" = "Sorry, I was wrong". What's the difference? :p
 
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IMHO, when they decided to squeeze every last penny of profits from the news, we all lost.

Very few foreign correspondents any more, and seriously WTF is up with U.K. news organizations having better coverage of events going on in the US?
 
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Blue_Max said:
Yeah, one pushes a narrative you like, one pushes a narrative you hate.
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I think it would be more appropriate to lump them with media matters or mother jones or jezebel on the left, CNN is still an actual news organization.
 
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Compare the home pages of BBC News and CNN:

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MrSquished

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Blue_Max said:
Yeah, one pushes a narrative you like, one pushes a narrative you hate.
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No you'd have to be a lunatic to equate infowars with any reputable news site. Like a stark raving mad lunatic.

Breitbart? A little better. But self-stated alt-right bias. This is the news organization that published a massive pro confederate flag article shortly after the Dylan Roof shootings, which included things like calling Obama as being from Kenya.

Meanwhile the NYT helped sell the Iraq War with Judith Miller's WMD reporting. Definitely far left shit. While they may be left of center, this is no extremist newspaper.
 
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HamburgerBoy said:
Infowars can admit they're wrong, they just word it a bit differently from other news organizations. "That story we believed yesterday is DISINFO and government LIES to distract us from the REAL TRUTH!" = "Sorry, I was wrong". What's the difference? :p
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lol +1

Christian Science Monitor is surprisingly good. NPR is also surprisingly good - having seen their leftwing bias, they actively try to present fair and balanced reportage, which is about the most one can expect from anyone. ABC News Radio used to be surprisingly good and unbalanced - I don't think they are in our market anymore, but I don't listen to much radio - but I have no reason to suspect that they have become strongly biased.

I too think placing the New York Times into the same category as Breitbart, CNN, MSNBC or Fox News is a bridge too far. It's a very liberal paper and pushes a left wing agenda, but it also has a lot of honest reporters still willing to honestly report. Perhaps its sheer size and reputation help overcome its progressive management?
 
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brycejones

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HamburgerBoy said:
Infowars can admit they're wrong, they just word it a bit differently from other news organizations. "That story we believed yesterday is DISINFO and government LIES to distract us from the REAL TRUTH!" = "Sorry, I was wrong". What's the difference? :p
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lol
 
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Blue_Max said:
Like the journalists interviewing each other to get the answers they want on TV? Yeah... no way could these journalists have political agendas bought and paid for.
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There is always a way. ALWAYS. What you are saying is never trust anyone again EVER because there is always a way. Pretty depressing way to live. Girls will break your heart. Never gonna get laid? You're going to have to take a leap somewhere.
 
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raildogg

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Unbiased? I mean, is there any human on this Earth who is not biased? We're biased from the moment we start to get conditioned to this world we live in. Everything we do conditions us even more.

So no, everything you read and will read or watch will be biased and will not be the full truth. Some more than others.
 
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