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markymoo

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i not sure where you coming from. the 1950 pro is alot lower performing card.

the x1950xtx is 580+ ddr4
the x1950xt is 580 ddr3

 

Fox5

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Originally posted by: Azndude51
Originally posted by: fire400
Originally posted by: Azndude51
Originally posted by: fire400
x1950pro is probably this cards equivalent.

http://www23.tomshardware.com/graphics....elx=33&model1=527&model2=607&chart=199

What card are you talking about?

x1950pro is probably this cards equivalent.

No, I mean what is the X1950pro equivalent to?

He may be referring to the x1950xt, in which case he is dead wrong.
 

Apocalypse23

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I have the Sapphire version of this card, x1950xt 256mb, I used to run this beast and its a beauty, the only reason i upgraded to a 8800gts was since i had a better deal for it, I will sell the x1950xt on ebay for a good price though :)

I must add that Anandtech stated in there 7950gtco 512mb review themselves that this card whoops the 7950gtKO 512mb card in almost all games and benchmarks, its the best bang for the buck atm.

here is a review:
http://www.hardwarezone.com/articles/view.php?id=2122&cid=3&pg=3
 

markymoo

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@Apocalypse23
i think if you had sapphire i wondering why you upgrade now. everything on 1600 is at max. are you running over 1600? what you need that the x1950xt dosent give for you? i dont think it justify spending so much just yet when the sapphire does so much. i think it good sense to wait till 8800 cards come down or you throwing money to the wind at this time. when did upgrading pcs ever stood for logic and reason.

awesome to see it beating the 7950gt 512mb and so it should 48 shaders compared to 24. dont need 512mb unless you playing over 1600.
 

Azndude51

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Originally posted by: Fox5
512MB would be better for such a high resolution.

Yes, but how much better and better enough to be worth the extra price? I don't know...
 

Fox5

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Well, a 256MB card may not have the memory to run with antialiasing on at that res.
And check tom's vga charts for an idea of a potential performance difference.

This x1950xt 256MB is great for people with lower res displays, but if you're going for 1080 res you're talking about the absolute top of the barrel.
 

SPARTAN VI

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Originally posted by: markymoo
1. it runs hot - ok so get better cooling anybody who buys a high end card replaces the stock cooling anyways - problem solved.

I have a feeling the actual statistic is the exact reciprocal of this claim.

Of all the high end cards I bought, I only used after market cooling once.
 

a123456

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The linked review in here from HardwareZone shows that the X1900XT 512 performs about the same up to 1600 res. At 1920 res, you'll see a drop off, but I don't know if it's a 100+ CAD worth of frame rate increase. If you have the money to throw away, get more. Otherwise, the X1950XT is probably fast enough for most things. You're not going to be able to run Oblivion at max details at that res anyway.
 

rickn

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Originally posted by: Azndude51
Originally posted by: Fox5
512MB would be better for such a high resolution.

Yes, but how much better and better enough to be worth the extra price? I don't know...


you can get a card of comparable price with 512mb of memory, like the 7950GT, and while it may benefit from large texture storage, but the lack of pixel shader proc may kill any advantage the extra memory may offer. I'd take 256mb and the pixel shader procs the x1950xt offers, and thus I did.
 

Apocalypse23

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Originally posted by: markymoo
@Apocalypse23
i think if you had sapphire i wondering why you upgrade now. everything on 1600 is at max. are you running over 1600? what you need that the x1950xt dosent give for you? i dont think it justify spending so much just yet when the sapphire does so much. i think it good sense to wait till 8800 cards come down or you throwing money to the wind at this time. when did upgrading pcs ever stood for logic and reason.

awesome to see it beating the 7950gt 512mb and so it should 48 shaders compared to 24. dont need 512mb unless you playing over 1600.

I play at 1680x1050 and I need something faster and with much more memory, which the 8800 GTS seemed perfect for. You need 512mb even at that resolution because I personally like to play with everything cranked up on High Quality. After thorough reviews and benches, I knew that I had made a mistake on purchasing the 1950xt when the 8800 clearly blew it in every benchmark, so it's totally worth it for me. I got the 8800 GTS for $499 CAD on a special price which is also a steal. I'm glad. Matter of fact, soon I'll be switching to 1920x... resolution and getting a 42" Westinghouse or a 46" Sharp Acquous...I'm just waiting for the right time. I think I may sell the GTS and go for the GTX specifically for that reason.
 

Azndude51

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Originally posted by: Apocalypse23
Originally posted by: markymoo
@Apocalypse23
i think if you had sapphire i wondering why you upgrade now. everything on 1600 is at max. are you running over 1600? what you need that the x1950xt dosent give for you? i dont think it justify spending so much just yet when the sapphire does so much. i think it good sense to wait till 8800 cards come down or you throwing money to the wind at this time. when did upgrading pcs ever stood for logic and reason.

awesome to see it beating the 7950gt 512mb and so it should 48 shaders compared to 24. dont need 512mb unless you playing over 1600.

I play at 1680x1050 and I need something faster and with much more memory, which the 8800 GTS seemed perfect for. You need 512mb even at that resolution because I personally like to play with everything cranked up on High Quality. After thorough reviews and benches, I knew that I had made a mistake on purchasing the 1950xt when the 8800 clearly blew it in every benchmark, so it's totally worth it for me. I got the 8800 GTS for $499 CAD on a special price which is also a steal. I'm glad. Matter of fact, soon I'll be switching to 1920x... resolution and getting a 42" Westinghouse or a 46" Sharp Acquous...I'm just waiting for the right time. I think I may sell the GTS and go for the GTX specifically for that reason.

I really want to get the 8800GTS. My options are getting the X1950XT now along with a new CPU or getting a 8800GTS and continue using my A64 3200, which might bottleneck me quite a bit. If I get the X1950XT now, I can sell it in a few months and get a cheaper DX10 card when I really need it.
 

Apocalypse23

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Originally posted by: Azndude51
Originally posted by: Apocalypse23
Originally posted by: markymoo
@Apocalypse23
i think if you had sapphire i wondering why you upgrade now. everything on 1600 is at max. are you running over 1600? what you need that the x1950xt dosent give for you? i dont think it justify spending so much just yet when the sapphire does so much. i think it good sense to wait till 8800 cards come down or you throwing money to the wind at this time. when did upgrading pcs ever stood for logic and reason.

awesome to see it beating the 7950gt 512mb and so it should 48 shaders compared to 24. dont need 512mb unless you playing over 1600.

I play at 1680x1050 and I need something faster and with much more memory, which the 8800 GTS seemed perfect for. You need 512mb even at that resolution because I personally like to play with everything cranked up on High Quality. After thorough reviews and benches, I knew that I had made a mistake on purchasing the 1950xt when the 8800 clearly blew it in every benchmark, so it's totally worth it for me. I got the 8800 GTS for $499 CAD on a special price which is also a steal. I'm glad. Matter of fact, soon I'll be switching to 1920x... resolution and getting a 42" Westinghouse or a 46" Sharp Acquous...I'm just waiting for the right time. I think I may sell the GTS and go for the GTX specifically for that reason.

I really want to get the 8800GTS. My options are getting the X1950XT now along with a new CPU or getting a 8800GTS and continue using my A64 3200, which might bottleneck me quite a bit. If I get the X1950XT now, I can sell it in a few months and get a cheaper DX10 card when I really need it.

Up to you, but if I were you, I'd just change the cpu and get an opteron 170 and overclock it, and I'd wait for the 8800 GTS prices to drop in the next three months, reason being even if you get the x1950xt which is very affordable at an unusual price of $250 US, you won't make much out of it when you sell it later on, thats when the 8800 GTS prices will drop. So just get the 8800 GTS off www.ncix.com or elsewhere, whereever it's cheaper for you. Your best bet is to sell your current video card, even if its a 7800GT, you may make about $150 US if you advertise it right and that way you can pay less for your GTS. :)

 

Whirlwind

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I would not worry too much about those newegg reviews.

Some people get scared and want the Big High Powered video card to be as quiet and cool as the last video card they had.

It ain't gonna happen! If it's bigger and badder....it's also gonna be louder and hotter.....don't worry about it....they are fine with stock cooling....change to a 3rd party cooler if overclocking only.

These new cards are tested pretty good and are made to run at those high temps, even as crazy as it sounds.
 

InTheFlow

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Originally posted by: Fox5
And check tom's vga charts for an idea of a potential performance difference.

Excellent idea! :)

The only problem is that Tom's chart does not actually have the x1950xt as an option. :(

It is an excellent resource though. I sent them a message requesting it be added. If enough other people also ask maybe they will do so.

I find it particularly odd that they list the x1950xt as the best card for $270 (December) but don't have it in the charts.
 

a123456

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Originally posted by: InTheFlow
The only problem is that Tom's chart does not actually have the x1950xt as an option. :(

It's pretty much the same as the X1900XT 512, which is on there.
 

InTheFlow

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Originally posted by: a123456
It's pretty much the same as the X1900XT 512, which is on there.

The fact that it has twice the memory as the x1950xt makes me think that the results would not be similar. Especially at higher resolutions.
 

a123456

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Originally posted by: InTheFlow
The fact that it has twice the memory as the x1950xt makes me think that the results would not be similar. Especially at higher resolutions.

If you went to look at the HardwareZone review linked earlier in this thread, they are side by side, up to 1600x1200.
 

InTheFlow

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Originally posted by: a123456
If you went to look at the HardwareZone review linked earlier in this thread, they are side by side, up to 1600x1200.

I actually did so before. However, I'm more interested in how the card will handle newer games like Oblivion and Titan Quest. The games used for testing in that review are older and don't stress a graphics card as hard as the above two games.

If you do comparisons via Tom's VGA chart on those two games at the 1600x1200 resolution, you'll see that the 512MB+ cards do better than almost all of the 256MB ones. In fact, the first 256 card that is listed under the 512 ones is the x1950Pro (choosing titan quest 16x12 for comparison). In part, the extra memory seems to really help with those games.

In the above example, using the 1950xtx with 512MB as a 'close approximation' of how the 1950xt will perform may not be so close after all. Thus the reason I'd like to see the results of the card on the charts.