Where are the price cuts?

[AtenRa]

The availability of GTX680 is no worse or better than most GPU launches the last many years...try searching the forum...buisness as usual.

I didnt say it was worst or better than other GPU releases, i have only stated that GTX680 in the egg were all sold out.

Both AMDs and NVIDIAs 28nm products have low availability right now.

The only thing keeping HD7970 in stock is the higher price

 

[Xcobra]

Should be 429. Worse power draw, no better than equal, worse at multi-GPU Eyefinity despite the extra VRAM, no CUDA/PhysX, no GPU Boost, no Adaptive Vsync, no way to get Eyefinity without displayport, no Bezel Peek, and no EVGA lifetime warranty.

I usually never post on this sub-forum (only read) but seriously, your posts are annoying. Anyway, to stay on topic, I am waiting for the rest of Nvidia's line-up and I'll get rid of my GTX260. So I pray for the price cuts to come.

 

[blastingcap]

I usually never post on this sub-forum (only read) but seriously, your posts are annoying. Anyway, to stay on topic, I am waiting for the rest of Nvidia's line-up and I'll get rid of my GTX260. So I pray for the price cuts to come.

I love you too. I'm amused that you singled me out rather than certain other forumers considering that I never misinform, troll, or flamebait. Sorry if you don't like my pointing out that GTX 680 has a clean sweep over the 7970 and reiterating my opinion of where AMD cards ought to be priced in consideration of that. You are entitled to your own opinion, but I wouldn't mind if you went back to lurking, permanently.

 

[Quantos]

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/news/video/hd-7970-price-cuts-dont-count-on-it/

A few highlights:

But right before NVIDIA’s momentous launch party, something odd happened. After weeks of limited to no availability, AMD’s board partners suddenly –and some would say mysteriously- received large shipments of the Tahiti GPUs they were previously begging for. As a result, the HD 7970 is actually available these days while the GTX 680 consistently sells out in a matter of moments wherever stock can be found.

Nothing we don't already know, but it's a very true and interesting point to think that AMD may have been holding onto inventory.

Among the other possibilities is one that was widely discussed when NVIDIA first introduced Fermi: they just can’t afford to cut the HD 7970’s price. Due to its size and complexity, the Tahiti core is an expensive piece of silicon and availability didn’t improve until a few weeks ago, leaving sales volume well short of where it should have been.

This would probably be the worse case scenario for AMD. If they simply can't afford to sell any cheaper.

Standing firm with the HD 7970 saves the rest of their lineup from becoming sacrificial lambs and that makes perfect sense from a business standpoint. Plus, the $549 price won’t stick around forever and is largely dependent on NVIDIA’s next move.

But has this strategy paid off? Through a few well placed sources in the retail chain we hear that backorder queues for the GTX 680 are filling up faster than AMD can sell HD 7900-series cards. At this rate it wouldn’t be surprising to see some retailers shift certain GTX 680 versions to “not available” status until the massive backlog clears. If that happens, AMD’s strategy may actually start paying dividends, especially considering the HD 7970, HD 7870 and HD 7850 are selling like gangbusters.

So does that mean the lack of GTX680 would be artificial? I'm having trouble seeing Nvidia accepting that retailers deactivate their product while the 7970 is at high availability.

I mean, granted there's a backlog to clear, but I don't see how it benefits Nvidia in any way. The retailers would basically tell them: "Ya, sorry guys, your product is too popular at the moment, we'll just stop selling it for a few weeks until the orders have been filled."

 

[Don Karnage]

I actually feel bad for anyone who spends 550 on a 7970 now

 

[Quantos]

Honestly, a person whose rationale is along the lines of "oh well, the $500 card is unavailable right now, let's pay more for something that's not better!" gets no sympathy from me.

 

[Leadbox]

I actually feel bad for anyone who spends 550 on a 7970 now

Honestly, a person whose rationale is along the lines of "oh well, the $500 card is unavailable right now, let's pay more for something that's not better!" gets no sympathy from me.

Only in America, the rest of the world has 680 at about the same price as the 7970 or it is more expensive

 

[Bobisuruncle54]

7970 prices are coming down in the UK, but only by about £30. I also have the feeling that anyone with a 5000/ GTX 400 or 6000/GTX 500 card will simply order a GTX 680 and wait if the particular model they want is out of stock. There seems to be little point going for a 7970 at this stage in the game.

In the UK for instance, the GTX 680 is in stock for £420, sometimes even less. The 7970 on the other hand still fetches a price of £400, which is bad news for something 15% slower. In order to match the same price performance ratio of the 680, the 7970 would have to be around £360-370.

 

[Mistwalker]

Only in America, the rest of the world has 680 at about the same price as the 7970 or it is more expensive

People should remember this, I know AnandTech is comprised primarily of US folks but here the cheapest 680 is $135 MORE than the cheapest 7970.

Not saying AMD shouldn't lower the MSRP to $500 (or less), because they absolutely should. But if your competitor is very supply constrained, you aren't going to feel as much pressure to respond.

 

[Axon]

The 7970 was never worth $550 in my eyes, let alone some of the models that run $600. Nor is the GTX 680 worth $500 to me.

However, with the performance of each card being what it is, there's no doubt that AMD needs to do something with its pricing. But not until nvidia opens up the supply chain.

 

[DarkKnightDude]

Basically AMD, is waiting on Nvidia to open up their supply, so we won't be seeing price drops for awhile.

 

[digitaldurandal]

I think a better question would be. Is there even a game worthy of such an expensive card.

Waiting for that graphics leap we experienced with Crysis.....I don't see it.

Everyone says this because they are stuck on a single monitor of 1920x 1200 or less resolution. Step up to multiple monitors or to a larger resolution and every game requires a beefy set of graphics cards to run with max settings.

tl;dr: If you cannot tell why you would need these cards.. they are not marketed for you.

 

[chronochime]

Everyone says this because they are stuck on a single monitor of 1920x 1200 or less resolution. Step up to multiple monitors or to a larger resolution and every game requires a beefy set of graphics cards to run with max settings.

tl;dr: If you cannot tell why you would need these cards.. they are not marketed for you.

Because not everyone has enough desktop real-estate to put 3 monitors? Maybe that's a problem? At least personally I don't see any need to have 3 screens just to play games, while at other times the two side ones are just sitting there. That and quite a few also got their gaming pc connected to the TV, so are you going to tell them to buy two more tvs just for games?

 

[Xcobra]

I love you too. I'm amused that you singled me out rather than certain other forumers considering that I never misinform, troll, or flamebait. Sorry if you don't like my pointing out that GTX 680 has a clean sweep over the 7970 and reiterating my opinion of where AMD cards ought to be priced in consideration of that. You are entitled to your own opinion, but I wouldn't mind if you went back to lurking, permanently.

Oh don't get me wrong, I didn't mean to single you out. I have noticed the same thing happen with other members. But I see it more often from you. And yes, I will keep lurking and loling at fanboy posts. Thanks for your informative post.

 

[blastingcap]

Oh don't get me wrong, I didn't mean to single you out. I have noticed the same thing happen with other members. But I see it more often from you. And yes, I will keep lurking and loling at fanboy posts. Thanks for your informative post.

Lmao. You really haven't been here much. Read my post history far back enough and you will see that I've been called a fanboy for AMD more often than for NVDA. I remember one stretch where two guys were calling me an AMD fanboy/shill/whatever practically every other post. There were several others as well. (For the record I was not shilling, I was pointing out power draw differences and how idle power matters more than load power.) And now you are implying I'm an AMD fanboy? LOL.

I'm only so strident about AMD prices because I'm in the market for a 28nm card soon, and only AMD has the power to cut prices on 28nm ~$200-300 cards right now, since NVDA is being slow. Given Idontcare's statement about how there may be AMD employees or whatever on this forum, I'm hoping that there are some AMD employees here or something who can relay the message back to HQ to lower prices. If NVDA had $250 28nm cards out, I'd be urging a better price/perf ratio for them, too!

The GPU rent is too damn high!

 

[lifeblood]

It appears the price cuts have slowly started. The HIS 7850 is down to $239 + shipping. Not much but its a start.

I was hoping for better but a price cut is a price cut.