Where are the pins on my IDE hard drive?

Dill Bertweed

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Hm. I'm building a computer and trying to connect the hard drive to the motherboard. There seems to be a problem that there is no section of connector pins on the hard drive? Only the data and the power pins are on the device.

What the heck? I just bought 2 Seagate hard drives and neither of them have the pins. Am I daft? :)
 

Slugbait

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Shot in the dark...the cable connection has 39 holes, but the hard drive doesn't have 39 pins, correct?

If so, you didn't buy IDE hard drives. You bought SATA hard drives.
 

Blain

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Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
lol, sata indeed.

I'm sure that couldn't be it, since he specifically asked...

Originally posted by: Dill Bertweed
Where are the pins on my IDE hard drive?

Building a PC has become less of a black art and more pop art these days.
Anyone attempting a build should have schooled himself in the basics before beginning.
:roll: But on the other side of the coin, he did ask...

"Am I daft?"
 

bruceb

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It could be he thought he was buying an IDE drive, when in fact, it was a SATA drive. You have to dig thru the specs on the vendors sites to be sure you are buying what you really wanted. We will know when / if he post the drive make & model #
 

Dill Bertweed

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lmao. OK so I guess the real important question was answered. But thats it? Just the 4-pin data connector and the power plug?

I don't even know what IDE means. I thought it meant internal hard drive, possibly a chinese acronym? :p
 

Blain

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Originally posted by: Dill Bertweed
I don't even know what IDE means. I thought it meant internal hard drive,
>> STOP NOW <<

Have a geek friend finish your building project... IF he can.
How did you go about buying components, if you don't know what you need or what parts are compatible? :shocked:
 

Dill Bertweed

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Jeez I'm not that bad, lol. I've installed everything else, but the hard drive came without any user manual (OEM, whatever that means?) and so I've been at a loss as to how it connects. I looked at my OLD hard drive, a 30GB special from 2001, and along with the IDE input on the board, both which led me to say WHERE'S ME PINS.

I pretty much guessed at buying components, figuring everything is compatible. I don't see why anything would not be, aside from the obvious.

Here's my list. The entire thing cost me $620, because I get Intel chips for free and I already had a monitor.


DFI LANPARTY DK P35-T2RS LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Intel Motherboard

Intel Core 2 Quad Q9450 Yorkfield 2.66GHz

SAPPHIRE 100225L Radeon HD 3870 512MB 256-bit GDDR4 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video

(2) Crucial 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model CT2KIT25664AA800

Seagate Barracuda ES ST3250620NS 250GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive

ARCTIC COOLING Freezer 7 Pro 92mm CPU Cooler

Antec Three Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case

Antec earthwatts EA500 500W ATX12V v2.0 SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply
 

0roo0roo

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Originally posted by: Dill Bertweed
Jeez I'm not that bad, lol. I've installed everything else, but the hard drive came without any user manual (OEM, whatever that means?) and so I've been at a loss as to how it connects. I looked at my OLD hard drive, a 30GB special from 2001, and along with the IDE input on the board, both which led me to say WHERE'S ME PINS.

I pretty much guessed at buying components, figuring everything is compatible. I don't see why anything would not be, aside from the obvious.

Here's my list. The entire thing cost me $620, because I get Intel chips for free and I already had a monitor.


DFI LANPARTY DK P35-T2RS LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Intel Motherboard

Intel Core 2 Quad Q9450 Yorkfield 2.66GHz

SAPPHIRE 100225L Radeon HD 3870 512MB 256-bit GDDR4 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video

(2) Crucial 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model CT2KIT25664AA800

Seagate Barracuda ES ST3250620NS 250GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive

ARCTIC COOLING Freezer 7 Pro 92mm CPU Cooler

Antec Three Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case

Antec earthwatts EA500 500W ATX12V v2.0 SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply

err yes you are. if you don't know the basics, god knows what other misconceptions you have in your head. its how perfectly good components get returned all the time because of n00b user error. this stuff isn't secret, if you had just bothered to look this stuff up in wikipedia or just read a book about it you wouldn't have made such a stupid mistake. some n00bs think its just legos i guess.
 

Dill Bertweed

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Originally posted by: 0roo0roo

err yes you are. if you don't know the basics, god knows what other misconceptions you have in your head. its how perfectly good components get returned all the time because of n00b user error. this stuff isn't secret, if you had just bothered to look this stuff up in wikipedia or just read a book about it you wouldn't have made such a stupid mistake. some n00bs think its just legos i guess.

Damn. Nobody said anything about returns or misconceptions. The hard drive came with no literature and the inputs look exactly like an IDE drive except for the connector pins. All I was asking is what replaces them.

As much as you'd like to think otherwise, this ain't much harder than Legos. But thanks for trying to make me feel stupid. :)
 

akugami

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http://www.mechbgon.com/

Before you do anything else, hit the link above and READ THROUGH THE WHOLE THING. It will explain a lot.

IDE is a type of hard drive (HD) interface. They are being replaced by hard drives with a SATA interface. IDE must be pin configured to be either a Master or Slave. SATA does not need this designation since each SATA connector only supports one drive.

OEM means Original Equipment Manufacturer. They usually refer to companies like Dell, Acer, HP, etc that puts the computer together or they refer to parts that are meant to be shipped to these manufacturers as evidenced by the sparse packaging and shorter warranties. For instance, a DVD Burner or HD may come shipped in bubble wrap with no connetor cables, screws or manuals. This is an OEM part. The same drive may come in retail packaging with screws, cables, manuals and usually a software disc.
 

0roo0roo

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Originally posted by: Dill Bertweed
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo

err yes you are. if you don't know the basics, god knows what other misconceptions you have in your head. its how perfectly good components get returned all the time because of n00b user error. this stuff isn't secret, if you had just bothered to look this stuff up in wikipedia or just read a book about it you wouldn't have made such a stupid mistake. some n00bs think its just legos i guess.

Damn. Nobody said anything about returns or misconceptions. The hard drive came with no literature and the inputs look exactly like an IDE drive except for the connector pins. All I was asking is what replaces them.

As much as you'd like to think otherwise, this ain't much harder than Legos. But thanks for trying to make me feel stupid. :)

oh, its like legos until something doesn't work because you don't know enough... then you are up a creek. put it this way, its legos..but you were just stumped by one of the most basic blocks. you are pebcak in the making. whats worse than a user who doesn't know the basics? one that doesn't care..or care to even learn:p