Where are the newer CPUs?

[DarkKnight]

I just find it wierd that almost after a year the 3.2ghz and 3200+ processors came out, the speeds have only jumped 200mhz. I remember a year or 2 ago CPU's were coming out really fast, but now their seems to be little progress. I'm just writing this because I was thinking of upgrading or getting a new computer but since there's been so little progress, the cost doesn't seem to be worth it. When are the newer cpu's coming?????

 

[SickBeast]

Patience, young grasshopper.

939 is almost here.

 

[hifisoftware]

It getting harder to go faster. It probably will take a while to get to 4000+ speeds. And every step is getting harder and harder. At some point (not too far off) the next step is going to be so expensive, that CPU company will not be able to make any profit.
That's why both Intell and AMD will start putting several CPU cores on a die. That's farily easy to do.

 

[clarkey01]

p3 went from 500Mhz to 1Ghz is 6 months, or somthing like that....Now p4 has gone from 3.2 to 3.2, a 200 Mhz jump in 12 months....However they plan to hit 4Ghz by Q4. Amd might have 90nm down to a T then and more the likely have an 4200+ part out by then.

4ghz prescott.....Are Intel moving from the semi conductor indusrty to the BBQ one ? imagine the temps

 

[Soulkeeper]

hahaha yeah seems like all the advancement went to the videocards lately

seems like the cpu companies have been more concerned with upgrading to .13u then .09u and finding it isn't making the chips run as cool/fast/low-voltage as they wanted or we would be to 4ghz+ already (for intel atleast)

the next step will either be a better way to make these chips or a break through in cooling them better
the power use is also growing over the years/months to extreme levels

it'll be interesting to see how this year unfolds

 

[Dman877]

I think the future of cpu's is in making them faster using alternative methods to just cranking up the mhz. Multi-core cpu's, more ipc (pentium m, etc), higher fsb, etc will be what we see for a few years I think.

 

[daudi811]

I thought nowadays it wasn't about mhz...I could be wrong though I don't really understand this stuff anyway.. for example a 1800mhz barton is faster than a 1800mhz tbred right???

 

[Gamingphreek]

Yes it is but that is because of architectural improvements. L2 cache FSB and what not.

-Kevin

 

[BDSM]

I think that one of the MAIN reasons for the slowdown in speed increases is that the demand is weak. Sure.. diehard gamers and such always crave faster cpu's.. but alot of us is happy with the performance that a 1 ghz+ cpu gives us 99 % of the time. So why spend 1000's of $'s to get unnoticable different in the apps we run?

Personally I think we're far from a "performance ceiling" and it just takes more effort now than before to get it. When the demand and the money is there for this new performance so will the cpu makers.

 

[PhyberOptik]

Yeah, I think the manufacturers have stopped focusing on speed, and instead have tried to get yields up by improving the fabbing processes but sticking with established clock speeds- it's proving too expensive to get high yields on ultra-fast silicon - too much useless wafer.

It will be a sad day when the VPU business reaches this point. And it's gonna happen...just wait.

They're gonna have to start thinkin' of something else. I hope one day we'll look back at the silicon transistor like we look back at vacuum tubes, today.

 

[mboy]

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
Yes it is but that is because of architectural improvements. L2 cache FSB and what not.

-Kevin

Not really much faster if at all as the extra cache doesn't help the XP platform. No where near as much as a P4 with a MUCh longer pipeline.
That being said, I am runing @ 3.6Ghz and there are many running over 4ghz, it just isn't officially released that way yet.

 

[Dman877]

Originally posted by: mboy

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
That being said, I am runing @ 3.6Ghz and there are many running over 4ghz, it just isn't officially released that way yet.

On stock cooling? When they officially release a higher clocked part it has to run the higher speeds on stock cooling, not 50$ heatsinks or water cooling...

 

[mboy]

I was running stock cooling until yesterday when I received an installed my Zalman 7000 CU. Same speed as I ran it before on the stock Intel retail cooler.
No water here. Guys running in the 4's are usually using some trickier coling, but their are a bunch running on air. Forget the 5ghz guys, they doing crazy stuff.

 

[divide by zero]

mboy, what stepping is you chip? When did you buy it, did you buy a particular stepping or you just got lucky?

 

[magomago]

i'm not complaining ^^ My 2400+ is still in the middle upper part when it comes to gaming pcs (well...ave for the vid card) and is still pretty beefy for a computer that doesn't get played with games...

haha i'm actually enjoying not having the computer so outdated for fast~~~

 

[Acanthus]

Demand for higher CPUs will dramatically increase with next gen DX9 titles and increases in physics and AI calculations.

Games are going to be the driving force for the demand for CPUs/mem/vid cards.

Although DDR2 is going to be a wash as far as i can tell at its release, it wont matter until yields are up.

Bring back rambus and serial

 

[Soulkeeper]

yeah I wish it didn't take so long to make new games hehehe

 

[mboy]

Originally posted by: divide_by_zero
mboy, what stepping is you chip? When did you buy it, did you buy a particular stepping or you just got lucky?

sl6wk, D1. Manufactured 2/24/04 I believe.
I just got it last week, was part of a trade between me and someone. I am not sure if he bought a specific chip or not. It was brand new, sealed box tho and I received it last week, so he very well may have selected it. It is one with 30 caps on it.
nice chip

 

[mboy]

Games are going to be the driving force for the demand for CPUs/mem/vid cards.

Has been that way for past 5 years.

 

[DrLuke2003]

Agreed games are the driving force behind video card advancements...but is Intel really paying attention to games to set their processor priorities?

Commercial demands and mainstream applications are where Intel makes their money...ATI and NVidia only have gamers to drive them.

 

[Sylvanas]

cpu's are disappointing i reckon, even whith a fx53 and a x800xt the vid card craves for more! AMD and Intel still have alot of work ahead of them...

 

[Whitedog]

I think they need to quit making computers faster, and start making them More efficient!

I remember when a computer would run on a 100 watt power supply. Now, the CPU ALONE uses more than that!

Friggin electric bills are High at my house with 3 of these beastly computers running.

Not to meantion... with all this HEAT being produced in my Den, the Air conditioner never seems to cut off when I have them all going.

:|

 

[DAPUNISHER]

P4 3.2 was released about a year ago and we're only 200mhz faster!

We? Speak for yourself There are people runningAMD64's@near 3ghz and Intel guys over 4ghz Yeah, I know, you are talking about stock clockspeeds. There aren't that many desktop users screaming for faster chips, we hardcore gamers and heavy encoding types are a small group. If most users needed speed then Celeron would be dead by now :laugh:

My point is that there is no need to be anxious about when the next flagship CPUs will come, just spend what one would cost you on overclocking hardware that will allow you to exceed the speedbump the next ones will have, now! Concerning the systems that ran off a 100w powersupply, I remember they couldn't keep up with my wifes' typing :laugh:

 

[Zebo]

I thought the FX53 just came out? Hard to make "new" when pentiums are putting out 150W when they hit ~3.6 without dell getting into phase change prebuilts.