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Where are the i3 and lower Ivy Bridge parts?

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I've been in a holding pattern for a while now, waiting for the i3, pentium, and/or celeron class Ivy Bridge parts to go on sale.

I don't even know if there will be pentium or celeron parts, but I thought the i3 ivy was supposed to be out in June/July.

Any news on the status of the lower end ivy bridge chips?
 
yeah they should be out soon and I hope they fix the heat issue .Are they going to be 45w TDP?
Btw anyone know why they take so long to make or release i3 and celeron?
Would be cool if haswell lineup from i7 to i3 would all launch on the same.
 
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They have no reason to release them. They are just continuing to milk that 32nm cow and sell all their 22nm parts at ridiculous prices. You have to figure the smallest ib die is going to cost them 30% less than the smallest sb die. So they are getting 30% more parts per wafer and they are selling them for more money each. It's a nice racket only made possible by stupid competitors.
 
ShadowVVL said:
yeah they should be out soon and I hope they fix the heat issue .Are they going to be 45w TDP?
Btw anyone know why they take so long to make or release i3 and celeron?
Would be cool if haswell lineup from i7 to i3 would all launch on the same.
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There are no heat issues. At stock frequencies Ivy stays well within safe margins.

Think I remember reading these cpu's should have been coming out in june or july. Obviously, they didn't. Seems Intel still has a nice pile of 32nm i3's/pentiums/celerons. Ultrabook sales haven't quite been as expected and also the sata-bug in first P67/H67 chipsets cost some time. Or maybe they'll just skip them altogether. i3 2100 is still doing good and Haswell isn't too far away.
 
The reason for the delay of the release of the Intel® Core™ i3 and lower processors had nothing to do with heat issues. It has everything to do with us trying to meet demand for the other 3rd generation Intel Core processors that have already been released.

While you may not see the 3rd generation Intel Core i3 processors in the next couple weeks you should see them released soon.
 
nemesismk2 said:
what heat issues, news to me lol
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Probably referring to Ivy Bridge K chips that seem to run hot when overclocked/overvolted due to the smaller die size.

Queue flashbacks to Athlon XP Palomino shrinking to the Thoroughbred core.

In any case, there is no heat issue. Why would there be, when the dual cores aren't overclockable?
 
IvyBridge operates at higher temperatures than SandyBridge no matter if you OC or not.

But that is not an issue to be concerned with, it will not have any effect in the processors operation/performance.
 
I don't get why anyone cares that Ivy Bridge runs at higher temperatures. I personally don't care if my CPU runs at 532 C, provided it doesn't adversely affect the CPU's life or stability.
 
pantsaregood said:
I don't get why anyone cares that Ivy Bridge runs at higher temperatures. I personally don't care if my CPU runs at 532 C, provided it doesn't adversely affect the CPU's life or stability.
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Because everyone was expecting to work at lower temps because of the smaller manufacturing process at 22nm.
 
pantsaregood said:
I don't get why anyone cares that Ivy Bridge runs at higher temperatures. I personally don't care if my CPU runs at 532 C, provided it doesn't adversely affect the CPU's life or stability.
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People do not understand thermal dynamics thats why. Look at the guy who posted about wanting a CPU that ran at the lowest temperature because he thought it would be cooler in his room. People think lower temps mean lower heat in room which is not even close to being true.
 
Smaller manufacturing process doesn't always lead to lower temperatures. Ivy Bridge is 160mm^2 with 1.4 billion transistors, as opposed to Sandy Bridge at 216mm^2 with 1.16 billion transistors. Current Ivy Bridge SKUs are mostly 77W, as opposed to 95W of Sandy Bridge. 19% decrease in power consumption with a 26% decrease in die size - even a direct die shrink with those properties could easily lead to a temperature increase.
 
radu_matei_2007 said:
put 100$ over the I3 money, because the i5 will be much better.
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Not everyone needs better.
For a lot of people cheap will do, and for some uses it's even better.
I just threw down for a G530 because I couldn't be bothered waiting and idle power is pretty low anyway, for a viewing only HTPC.
Will probably also underclock it. Don't need 4 cores, don't need HT, don't need turbo, just need HD video playback, and that's all.

Oh, and low power.
 
IntelEnthusiast said:
The reason for the delay of the release of the Intel® Core™ i3 and lower processors had nothing to do with heat issues. It has everything to do with us trying to meet demand for the other 3rd generation Intel Core processors that have already been released.

While you may not see the 3rd generation Intel Core i3 processors in the next couple weeks you should see them released soon.
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Does this mean there are heat issues?
 
Coup27 said:
Does this mean there are heat issues?
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What kind of heat issues? I've had an Ivy chip for several months and this thread is the first time I've seen it suggested that Ivy i3's (or any Ivy really) will have "heat issues".
 
Rifter said:
People do not understand thermal dynamics thats why. Look at the guy who posted about wanting a CPU that ran at the lowest temperature because he thought it would be cooler in his room. People think lower temps mean lower heat in room which is not even close to being true.
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Lower temps mean lower heat in the room, due to increased leakage currents occurring at higher temperatures.
The trick is to find the local optimum of energy invested to cool the circuitry and the leak current prevented through this cooling. This is a hard engineering question for data center design.
 
_Rick_ said:
Lower temps mean lower heat in the room, due to increased leakage currents occurring at higher temperatures.
The trick is to find the local optimum of energy invested to cool the circuitry and the leak current prevented through this cooling. This is a hard engineering question for data center design.
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true to a point, but buying a CPU that runs cooler is not going to make your room cooler if the hotter chip has a dramatically lower TDP. For example a 125w TDP CPU running at 35c will heat up your room alot more than a 75w TDP CPU running at 70c.
 
coffeejunkee said:
There are no heat issues. At stock frequencies Ivy stays well within safe margins.

Think I remember reading these cpu's should have been coming out in june or july. Obviously, they didn't. Seems Intel still has a nice pile of 32nm i3's/pentiums/celerons. Ultrabook sales haven't quite been as expected and also the sata-bug in first P67/H67 chipsets cost some time. Or maybe they'll just skip them altogether. i3 2100 is still doing good and Haswell isn't too far away.
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I agree 100% with there being no heat issues, I built a 3570K for my son and have it @ 4.0ghz and it runs pretty much room temperature with a hyper212+AS5
 
People might quickly forget that 22nm ramp takes time, we talk entire processnode replacement for all segments. The transistion to Haswell can be done much faster, since you already got the 22nm fabs ready.
 
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