Where are nukes in the future?

AndroidVageta

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Im watching the new Star Trek and they are attacking that big ass evil ship thing...my question is...where the fuck are 100 mega-ton nukes in the future? Im thinking a nuke could take that whole ship out in about .1 seconds...so whats with the pussy photo torpedoes and shit?

NUKE IT IN ORBIT?!
 

lxskllr

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Nukes are outdated by that time. I'm sure the photon torpedoes are much stronger, but with the advances in armor, they don't do as much damage.
 

dighn

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Nukes are outdated by that time. I'm sure the photon torpedoes are much stronger, but with the advances in armor, they don't do as much damage.

yeah photon torpedoes have anti-matter warheads. they sure don't look that way though; I blame clueless writers.
 

AndroidVageta

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Yeah even if photon torpedoes are more advanced technologically their destruction radius is no where near that of a nuke, I dont care if the armor is stronger...nothing can withstand complete annihilation...
 

dighn

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Yeah even if photon torpedoes are more advanced technologically their destruction radius is no where near that of a nuke, I dont care if the armor is stronger...nothing can withstand complete annihilation...

just enjoy the show and don't think about it too much. I haven't seen a sci-fi show that doesn't completely butcher the "sci". try novels if you want thoughtful sci-fi.
 

BarkingGhostar

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yeah photon torpedoes have anti-matter warheads. they sure don't look that way though; I blame clueless writers.
True. They can always travel back in time, and the return where they came from, but for some reason can't travel forward in time.

And if they can travel back in time, why not do so and sabotage the Romulan ship to begin with?
 

ViRGE

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Star Trek physics is submarines in space. Don't think too hard about it.
 

God Mode

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Probably banned as savage. It would be interesting to teleport a few dozen nukes inside/outside the enemies ships.
 

SlowSpyder

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Star Trek is way off in the future. We learned during Independence Day that nukes are worthless*. So it's natural that they wouldn't have them.



*Nukes are worthwhile if you can get a virus to the mother ship via your Apple laptop and detonate it inside the mothership.
 

Numenorean

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Probably banned as savage. It would be interesting to teleport a few dozen nukes inside/outside the enemies ships.

Can't go through the shields.

Also photon torpedoes have far more destructive power than a nuke. They are typically 25 isotons. There was one episode in which a 90 isoton bomb was said to have a blast radius of 800 Kilometers. Find a nuke that will do that.
 

gimmewhitecastles

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In the Star Trek universe, Earth had already obtained world peace and became a unified Earth Federation. Therefore nukes were probably disposed of in compliance with this newfound unity.
 

Fritzo

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yeah photon torpedoes have anti-matter warheads. they sure don't look that way though; I blame clueless writers.

As someone interested in physics, I've always had a problem with this. A few grams of antimatter would = a 20 kiloton atom bomb...the explosion radius for one photon torpedo should be a good half mile across. They shoot those things like missles on Star Trek and you get explosions that look like hand grenades.

Those weapons should be a LOT more powerful than portrayed, but they probably have to tone them down for storytelling sake.
 

gimmewhitecastles

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Photon torpedos may be stronger than nukes, but you also have to account for shield technology which may cancel out the impact of these torpedos.

Not only that they have warp technology. Jettisoning a small amount of warp core always seems to do the trick when in a bind.
 

darkxshade

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As someone interested in physics, I've always had a problem with this. A few grams of antimatter would = a 20 kiloton atom bomb...the explosion radius for one photon torpedo should be a good half mile across. They shoot those things like missles on Star Trek and you get explosions that look like hand grenades.

Those weapons should be a LOT more powerful than portrayed, but they probably have to tone them down for storytelling sake.


I don't remember if this was true or not but couldn't they change the yield on the fly for photon torpedos? Though I don't know for what reason they would want to destroy a ship with 2 torpedos instead of 1 if that were the case.
 

AstroManLuca

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Just teleport a live hand grenade INSIDE the other captain's skull.

Good idea except you can't beam through shields.

Not only that they have warp technology. Jettisoning a small amount of warp core always seems to do the trick when in a bind.

Tell me the last time on Star Trek that ejecting the warp core actually worked! Whenever they're about to have a core breach they try and they're like "the ejection mechanism has malfunctioned!" Every. Single. Time.
 

Jeff7

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Good idea except you can't beam through shields.
Well, unless you're Miles O'Brien. ;)

Tell me the last time on Star Trek that ejecting the warp core actually worked! Whenever they're about to have a core breach they try and they're like "the ejection mechanism has malfunctioned!" Every. Single. Time.
- Voyager: They ejected the ship's core at least once. I don't remember the circumstances of that ejection though; I don't think it was a near breach.
- Voyager's Delta Flyer: Ejected the core, which then did in fact explode.
- ST Insurrection: Ejected, though it technically wasn't about to breach.