When will we see optical disks in the HD format?

[bupkus]

Here we're gradually all getting those great HD TVs like the LCDs and DLPs and the best we can rent is DVD?

 

[Lager]

Huh?

 

[Mr.IncrediblyBored]

Blue laser-based optical media should hit the US market late 2005. There are two major competing formats, one dubbed Blu-ray and another called HD-DVD (which also happens be back by the DVD consortium).

There has been a Blu-ray reader/recorder available in Japan for almost a year and it costs around $3000 USD.

 

[MrScott81]

Originally posted by: Lager
Huh?

He means that dvd's are 720x480 in resolution, while we have HDTV's capable of displaying up to 1920x1280 in resolution (most aren't actually capable of displaying 1080i in full capacity), but all are capable of displaying 720i (1280x768)

 

[bupkus]

Originally posted by: MrScott81

Originally posted by: Lager
Huh?

He means that dvd's are 720x480 in resolution, while we have HDTV's capable of displaying up to 1920x1280 in resolution (most aren't actually capable of displaying 1080i in full capacity), but all are capable of displaying 720i (1280x768)

Uhhh, YAH, what he said.

 

[Mr.IncrediblyBored]

Originally posted by: MrScott81

Originally posted by: Lager
Huh?

He means that dvd's are 720x480 in resolution, while we have HDTV's capable of displaying up to 1920x1280 in resolution (most aren't actually capable of displaying 1080i in full capacity), but all are capable of displaying 720i (1280x768)

I think you've got your resolutions a bit wonky.

1080i = 1920x1080
720p = 1280x720

Absolutely zero consumer televisions are capable of displaying 1920x1280 and few, if any, are capable of displaying an interlaced 720i signal (which doesn't surprise me as 720i isn't a standard format).

 

[spacejamz]

nevermind...

 

[FrankSaucedo]

I wonder what the resolution is at movie you actually go see at the movie theater?

what about IMAX?

 

[0roo0roo]

8k?

 

[Mr.IncrediblyBored]

For a format meant to replace DVD, I would have guessed more people would be interested in discussing this.

 

[Zugzwang152]

Originally posted by: FrankSaucedo
I wonder what the resolution is at movie you actually go see at the movie theater?

what about IMAX?

uh first of all, the movie screen isn't a gigantic TV with billion x billion resolution.

it's the same concept as buying a home projector and blowing up your 720x480 DVD to a 40-foot screen.

 

[Zugzwang152]

Originally posted by: KnightBreed
For a format meant to replace DVD, I would have guessed more people would be interested in discussing this.

i'm not too keen on having to replace my movies onto a new format so soon. VHS was around forever, and DVD has only been mainstream and big for what, 5 years now?

 

[Mr.IncrediblyBored]

Originally posted by: Zugzwang152

Originally posted by: FrankSaucedo
I wonder what the resolution is at movie you actually go see at the movie theater?

what about IMAX?

uh first of all, the movie screen isn't a gigantic TV with billion x billion resolution.

it's the same concept as buying a home projector and blowing up your 720x480 DVD to a 40-foot screen.

Your analogy is quite flawed. I'm not too familiar with Imax type projectors, but traditional cinema don't use DVDs and the estimated resolution of printed movie reels is significantly higher than 720x480.

In fact, reel-style analog projectors are still higher resolution than HDTV. The advantage in digital cinema is not so much resolution, but increased brightness, better wear life, better color/picture uniformity, and the obvious advantage of digital technology advancing at an enormous rate. Digital theatres are few and far between and their picure quality is arguably no better than regular cinema, but give it a few more years and we'll see great advances in LCoS and DLP technology.

 

[SaltBoy]

Originally posted by: KnightBreed
Your analogy is quite flawed. I'm not too familiar with Imax type projectors, but traditional cinema don't use DVDs and the estimated resolution of printed movie reels is significantly higher than 720x480.

I know that some studios are scanning their film to create ultra-high resolution digital masters of their movies. The resolution is about 4000x3000, or something along there.

 

[Mr.IncrediblyBored]

Originally posted by: Zugzwang152

Originally posted by: KnightBreed
For a format meant to replace DVD, I would have guessed more people would be interested in discussing this.

i'm not too keen on having to replace my movies onto a new format so soon. VHS was around forever, and DVD has only been mainstream and big for what, 5 years now?

DVD-video will be 8 years old when hi-def formats hit the market in the U.S. in 2005. It took a couple years before it displaced VHS as a "must have" and I imagine next generation HD formats taking just as long, if not longer, to replace DVD.

I don't see what the problem is. Continue to buy DVD until you're ready to buy a HD-DVD or Blu-ray player. Both will support regular DVD playback so you can continue to watch your older DVDs in all it's grainy, low-res goodness.

Now buying a new hi-def disc and trying to play it in your old DVD player is another matter entirely, and it's the biggest debate in the Blu-ray vs HD-DVD battle.

 

[spacejamz]

Originally posted by: KnightBreed
For a format meant to replace DVD, I would have guessed more people would be interested in discussing this.

not too much interest when I brought this up awhile ago either...

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the link inside no longer works but was an article from CNN dicussing blu ray and HD-DVD...

 

[Mr.IncrediblyBored]

Originally posted by: SaltBoy

Originally posted by: KnightBreed
Your analogy is quite flawed. I'm not too familiar with Imax type projectors, but traditional cinema don't use DVDs and the estimated resolution of printed movie reels is significantly higher than 720x480.

I know that some studios are scanning their film to create ultra-high resolution digital masters of their movies. The resolution is about 4000x3000, or something along there.

Sounds about right, although the concept of scanning printed media seems a little weird to me.

I wonder what produces better end results.
1) Scanning printed film into a hi res digital format
2) A movie filmed digitally in hi res from the get go.

I imagine mastering HD-DVD from a digital source would be easier, but scanning film could net higher image quality if enough time is taken to clean up the flaws in the print.

 

[UNCjigga]

IMAX and other 70mm film formats completely pwn HDTV in terms of resolution. The problem is there's no such thing as a 42" IMAX screen so you can't really compare them side-by-side...but if you were to hook up an HDTV signal and project it on an IMAX screen, you'd easily see the difference.

 

[Mr.IncrediblyBored]

Originally posted by: Jigga
IMAX and other 70mm film formats completely pwn HDTV in terms of resolution. The problem is there's no such thing as a 42" IMAX screen so you can't really compare them side-by-side...but if you were to hook up an HDTV signal and project it on an IMAX screen, you'd easily see the difference.

Oh you are absolutely correct, hell even 35 MM film owns HDTV resolutions, although I doubt anybody is expecting HDTV to replace film for large scale cinemas.

The big push for HDTV is coming from the home theatre crowd that just bought their big expensive TV. I just purchased an NEC HT1000 front projector this weekend and the idea of watching television, movies, sports, etc in a higher resolution, digital format makes me a little wet.

 

[Mr.IncrediblyBored]

While we're on the topic of digital projectors replacing film in large cinemas:

SONY UNVEILS NEW "4K" DIGITAL CINEMA PROJECTOR

PARK RIDGE, N.J., June 3, 2004 - Sony is taking the lead in the rapidly emerging digital cinema market with the introduction of two new "4K" projectors that offer unprecedented features such as a 4096 x 2160 pixel resolution and a high contrast ratio.

One is a 10,000 ANSI lumen model (SRX-R110); the other is a 5,000 ANSI lumen model (SRX-R105). Both use a Silicon X-tal Reflective Display (SXRD) imaging device that enables them to achieve nearly four times the pixel count of current HD displays. Complementing the projectors' outstanding pixel resolution is a high contrast ratio, allowing the new models to achieve high-quality images with rich and precise color tonal reproduction.

:Q