When will we <men> wake up and realize that women are evil creatures.

[Aruba]

Sorry fellas, it dosen't have anything to do with love. It is the natural process of selection and the advancement of the species. Women arn't doing anything evil, although we preceive it as being evil, when they 'court' more than one lover, or can't make up their mind. Natural selection tells them to find the strongest mate to further the species. Sometimes they just can't make up their mind as the answer is buried deep within.

Don't take it personally, they're just doing what was layed out in the master plan.

 

[OS]

<< She doesn't see it that way, though. She sees it as harmless fun, while I wouldn't so much as kiss anybody else, let alone be rolling around on a couch somewhere with them. I can NOT deal with it, that's the whole problem. I hear about it &amp; it pisses me off. To her it may be nothing, to me physical contact is to be reserved for relationships that mean something. Which she insists that one doesn't. >>



maybe you should go make out with some fine chick, video tape it, and send it to her and then see how she feels.

 

[OS]

&quot;In addition, men fall in love more easily than women, whereas women fall out of love more easily than men. Furthermore, women seem to experience less emotional turmoil than men when romantic relationships break up.&quot;


Weiten and Lloyd, Pyschology Applied to Modern Life, pg 230

 

[nullshark]

GaryTcs, I'm just saying that (from personal experience) women under 25 are still looking for &quot;the chase&quot; or the &quot;bad boy&quot; because it boosts their egos (for lack of a better word). With older women, they're more mature and you can enter into a mature relationship easier.

If you want to enter into a relationship with a &quot;commodity,&quot; then you have to make sure she has the fear of losing you. If the young girl thinks that you are totally hers then you become boring (no matter how honest and respectful you are, in fact especially how honest and respectful you are).

I'm only 30, so when I'm looking for just unadulterated fun, I date girls that are under 25. I don't tell them all about myself and I don't treat them like godesses. When I want a more substantial relationship, I date over 25 and can be quite honest, relaxed and sweet.

 

[TheViper6]

DUDE ditch her! She can't love you if she is messin around, even just kissing, ditch her.

 

[nullshark]

Viper, I'd tell her that if she does this, you two might still be able to be friends or have a fling every once in a while but that as far as a relationship goes, sorry have a nice day. She's not showing the respect that you need to be in a relationship with you.

 

[myputer]

Viper: Maybe its time to make her choice for her, get rid of her, he might be leaving soon, but someone else will take his place!

 

[maleficent]

I'm sure this thread would be ok if you replaced gender with race. Let's read the whole thing replacing female, girl, and woman with black, white, polynesian, etc. Fascinating how totally ingrained sexism is. I guess it's just too hard to complain about individuals instead. There are evil people.


You do see the sarcasm in the first sentence, right?

 

[limsandy]

Yes, I agree women are evil. I tried to make a relationship worked with my gf a year or two ago but she said she isn't ready. I guess she must be having sex....... ooops 'FUN' with other men now. We were quite young at that time. I don't understand why women wants to get married in their mid 20's, just when their 'value' have went down and they aren't v1rg1ns anymore.

 

[UWDawg]

If she loves ya, she would not be puting you through this.

 

[Yeeny]

Viper: You are the only one who can decide if it is worth the pain, to hold on to a slim chance that maybe someday you will be together. I am not bashing Sarah in the least, she just sounds very confused right now, in where she is going and what she wants out of life. But you were not put here to just wait around for her. You respect your own body enough to wait for marriage to do those things, why should anyone who loves you be doing them with someone else? I hope this makes sense, its late and I am tired. Good luck.

As for the rest of you, thanks! It's nice to know that our hard work pays off every now and again, and recognition is always appreciated. Oh and by the way, BOO!

 

[Varis]

Women are indeed evil. My best friend's ex played off my best friend against me to get him to stop dating my cousin. She was a coniving bit*ch. She told my best friend that she was going out with me and played off his feelings to make him jealous. After that everything went sour. I need your help guys.. I dont know how to solve this situation. I totally look like the bad guy. The situation now is that I am not friends with my best friend anymore. This girl is getting away with destroying my life. I couldnt convince my best friend that I didnt do anything with this woman. :Q

 

[ArkAoss]

varis, he's kinda down about it right? Take him outside, and wake him up a bit; throw him in a pool, a cold but not icy one; or if you think your mature enough, give him a nice wack up side the head, if he's really a good friend he'll realize his stupidity and he'll come to his senses.

 

[Varis]

He seems convinced. He also told the whole world about it. One of the reasons he is convince is that when he asked me if I saw his ex.. I said yes.. But there is a catch. This girl came crying to me about him.. so I talked to her and told her to call him. This b*tch played it off so well. She told him that I was chasing her. ARghh.. I am so mad.... !!!
After that my friend started to curse me out on the phone and threatened me for my life.. I didnt realized that this girl was playing him off against me.
She still tried to be my friend. She even tried to flirt with me. As time went by she tells me all the stuff that my bestfriend saids behind my back. I was mad. I didnt talk to my best friend for six months now. I really didnt want this to happened. But it did.
He was like my brother. We traveled around the world together, hiking, flying, etc... I really need to solve this problem in my life. Being blamed for somethign I didnt do is like a splinter in my leg walking on the road of life.
I really appreciate any advice you guys can offer.

 

[The LIdless Eye]

Viper,
My advice is this: Fvck her and dump her like 2 seconds
after you bust the nut.

 

[ArkAoss]

If you've been chums with that guy for so long man, he's gotta remember, what some one said here, and I'm gonna try to quote it, &quot;brothers are forever, girls are uh not&quot;.

What i do if a guy is bustin me over the loss of his girl, I let him get really mad at me, and when he trys to actually beat me up, I let him swing a bit maybe even bash a plate over my head, and come back smiling, then grab him by the scruff of the neck. back him into a wall,(maybe slam his head into it, if the wall can take his dense head) and say &quot;get off it buddy, she played us both.&quot; (girls always play guys that are friends against each other)
Then I leave him to whine his anger off into a pillow for a few hours


<--- has helped a brother/bud thru a few relationships like that.

 

[Viper GTS]

To all those who have replied, thank you... I never figured it would get this kind of response. I've got PMs to answer, which I will, when time allows.

I had a fairly long talk with her last night. Among other things I told her I wasn't kissing her anymore, until there's some commitment behind it. I also told her that she likes the security of having me around, but wants the right to do whatever she wants. She agreed completely with that, she's well aware of what she's doing. I let her know in no uncertain terms that at the rate she's going she's going to lose that security. She said if it was anybody else doing it to me, she'd tell me to leave them. But in her own words she's not &quot;unselfish&quot; enough to do that. We didn't make any permanent decisions, the only decision that was made is that I'm supposed to figure out what the hell I'm doing, &amp; let her know when I do. Until then we're not talking.

Viper GTS

 

[Optimus]

Women are wonderful.
People are evil.


Viper - I am really sorry to hear this - knowing your past history with Sarah (what you have shared) makes this surprising and sad to hear.
She may simply be confused, and she might come around... eventually. But it is the lack of any respect for you as a person/friend/possible love that is so worrying. I just hope that if you do try to wait this out you do not get hurt too badly and don't pass up on other things in life (i.e. a choice about school/work/another person based on waiting for Sarah).
Good luck to you - and I hope things work out either way you decide.

 

[Donuts]

I've come to believe that women are over rated!

 

[gunf1ghter]

Viper

See, she's trying to pull a fast one on you again.... you need to figure out what you are doing? She's the one who wants to swap spit with jocko the clown.

Seriously man, you should move on and find someone who respects you.... you guys can still be friends, probably won't talk much right after the break-up, but you can make it to where you can be buddies again.

 

[Elita1]

I am almost ashamed to be a woman when I see girls screwing around with men's hearts.
To Viper and all the guys who's hearts are being pureed in a blender I tell you to ask yourselves if she's worth the heartbreak, and think it through carefully.
A lot of girls that age are still very immature and don't know how to handle relationships or what they want out of life. So in the confusion/fear/insecurity other hearts can get broken. I've seen it all too often.
There seems to be no right or wrong decision to make because every one's situation is unique, but like so many people have said; remember to respect yourselves above all, and if necessary protect yourselves from people who toy with others emotions so carelessly.

It's difficult to explain but a lot of people have given good advice so I'm sure you guys get the gist.
Good luck! Hope things work out.

 

[GaryTcs]

Nullshark,

Think about why it is that the women over 25 are more down to earth. It's less sexual attraction. Less options. Younger women can always string along some young man (Viper). Keep a back up around. They see the narrowing window of opportunity.

 

[Isla]

I don't know about that, GaryTcs.

I think it has a lot more to do with how emotionally intelligent/evolved you are than anything else.

I've always been the down-to-earth kind, and I have avoided playing games in relationships. If anything, I have had to deal with guys who were on the immature side.

When I met Mr Isla, I was 22 and was AMAZED by the fact that he was not just trying to get a piece of ass... I was also impressed that, like me, he was interested in a serious, committed, long term relationship.

Something that I have learned in my old age (and through my studies) is this...

If your relationships are not working out, you might want to look at yourself and see what's going on.

 

[warcleric]

Isla: oh, dont get me wrong, I know I am a bastard, but I have always been a bastard. I didnt trick her with kindness and responsibility. That is the difference, men can be evil, but we usually dont hide it very well.....women are masters of deception.

 

[Emos]

<< the only decision that was made is that I'M supposed to figure >>





I really feel for you Viper It's good that you finally had that long talk, but as gunf1ghter said.....it sounded like she put most of the blame and responsibility on YOU! Just spend a little time apart (I know, I know...easier said than done) and see if she winds up missing you.
Don't know how similar an experience this is, but I was trying to make this one relationship work for about a year. I finally had a talk with her explaining the recurrent problem: &quot;I'm there for you no matter what, but it appears that you're there for me only whenever you feel like it!&quot; She told me that she understands completely how I felt because it's true! And don't expect any changes...WOW. Needless to say, I moved on (I felt like such a sap and so used after that one).