dullard
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Most of mine do too. Even worse: when the transaction transposes a $46.56 grocery charge with a $64.56 grocery charge. Are you going to notice it in every case? Or are you just willing to lose that $18?
Decimal places get moved all the time by banks, that is even more serious. A $100.00 check being withdrawn as $1000.00. It is damn nice to have a paper receipt to show the bank and get your $900 back.
I think we are SLOWLY headed in that direction. My father is an attorney and they are now doing most of their filing through email now (which sorta scares him as he is not the most tech savvy guy I know). I also know my job is using more PDF's than just printing everything off which also saves a lot of paper. They also require us to recycle our paper instead of just throwing it away. So, certainly a lot of companies out there are trying to help and technology as it goes along is also going to bring new light. But we can't forget that our 60 year old parents weren't born and raised on this kind of technology. So i expect another 30 years for things to be even more different.
at paytrust the physical bill gets scanned in and i view it as a pdf. i doublecheck the charge.
i'm not saying it's a perfect system, but it works for me.
paytrust also has "autopay if less than x amount". so if my phone bill is less that $50 it'll autopay, if it's more i'll check it out see what's going on...
Yeah, but i'll give you another scenario. I want to find out how much I paid for the couch I bought in 2003. Instead of having to go through hundreds of statements, I can do a quick search online. Or I wanted to see what kind of warranty I have on that couch. Instead of trying to find the appropriate paperwork, I can quickly look it up online.
You're saying papers serves better as a reminder - but that's only because we're used to it. Maybe next generation will have all reminders in PDA and that will work the best for them. A lot of tiems the reason we print out stuff is because we're either:
a) Afraid we'll lose the computer file
b) Are so used to paper we feel more comfortable reading from it than from the screen.
Once both of those are overcome I think we'll start seeing people limit their use of paper.
Same goes for money. Paper money is nice and all but it isn't really necessery. Once everybody has debit cards and everyplace accepts them will we need paper money anymore?
You're claiming computer error as a reason to keep using paper. But don't you have the same chance messing up with paper money? You can make a typo on your check and write a different sum. Or you can accidentally tender more cash than you're supposed to. We're just accept those chances.
And paper can't be fordge? I think it's a lot easier to print a fake statement or bill than to modify electronic records.
as soon as a backup media with an infinite shelf life is created that is so universal that EVERYONE uses it and all future versions are backwords compatible
so, never
so, never
meltdown75
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Exactly, while people are limiting the use of paper in certain areas, there will always be a need for it.
Also when you deal with things like online banking. The reason that companies are pushing for everything to be done online has nothing to do with reducing the usage of paper, it has everything to do with lowering cost.
My grandmother was always fascinated by Star Trek. Not because of the action, the other worlds, other races, etc. It was because there was no paper. 
dullard
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I didn't say electronic was bad. Your couch example is a good example (although I'm pretty sure it'll be faster for me to find it by paper since by paper it'll take me at most 2 mintues and since all of my CCs don't post online back more than 12 months). I'm saying that we need both to be as efficient as possible with current or likely technology. Maybe 200 years from now things will be so different that a combination is no longer the optimal solution. But for now, and for all realistically forseeable future paper will be here.
Most credit/debit machines cost $500-$700 (yes there are cheaper machines and even free ones if you sign up for some sort of contract). Paper money will no longer be needed when 3 year olds have the money to buy a $500 credit/debit machine to sell his three cent piece of gum to his sister. Also since the standard charge to use a credit/debit machine is 2.9% + 29 cents per transaction (more expensive if you got the reduced or free cost credit/debit machine), think about the waste. That 3 cent piece of gum cost 32 cents to buy, ten times more.
preslove
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I work in a big university's human resources scanning all the incoming and archived files to turn us into a "paperless office." A few of the hiring forms have been put online, but only a few. The rest, though, are printed, filled out, processed, then scanned. The scanned TIFF files can be viewed to verify stuff, but they are also printed out quite a bit. In the end this means that the paperless office scenario actually increases paper usage.
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