When will the Supreme Court Rule on Affirmative Action?

Should the Supreme Court strike down Affirmative Action?

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TalonStrike

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The media keeps talking about the Supreme Court, saying that they are going to rule on affirmative action, and that it could be struck down. When is this going to happen? It should be struck down as soon as possible.
 

CanOWorms

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I hope they don't until society can work on dismantling more of the privileges that white males receive. Unfortunately, white conservative males are trying all they can to maintain the inequities in our society that give them major advantages.
 

ichy

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I hope they don't until society can work on dismantling more of the privileges that white males receive. Unfortunately, white conservative males are trying all they can to maintain the inequities in our society that give them major advantages.

Oh look, another white-guilt peddler.
 

TalonStrike

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I hope they don't until society can work on dismantling more of the privileges that white males receive. Unfortunately, white conservative males are trying all they can to maintain the inequities in our society that give them major advantages.

God I hate this. Not all white men are evil.
 

CanOWorms

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God I hate this. Not all white men are evil.

:confused:

I don't understand how this type of response can come from my post. Perhaps you're fast-forwarding some sort of internal discussion in your head, but I'm not a party to that.

I suppose I will state that not all Eskimos are evil and that genocides are not cool.
 

nehalem256

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I hope they don't until society can work on dismantling more of the privileges that white males receive. Unfortunately, white conservative males are trying all they can to maintain the inequities in our society that give them major advantages.

White privilege?

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trenchfoot

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My sort-of tongue in cheek answer: When the conservative controlled court feels their grip on power is about to be lost due to illness, retirement, etc.
 

Wreckem

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Ill answer your question. There are two opposing cases.

Texas case on AA has been heard. Decision will likely come out the third week of June.

The Michigan case inregards to Michigan banning all use of race in admissions is delayed with challengers having to until Feb 4 to make their brief filings.
 
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DCal430

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I hope they don't until society can work on dismantling more of the privileges that white males receive. Unfortunately, white conservative males are trying all they can to maintain the inequities in our society that give them major advantages.

Affirmative Action does great harm to Asian, who are almost always excluded from it. Benefit should be given to economic status, not race.
 

waggy

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we shouldn't consider race when it comes to a job, school whatever. If anything economic status should.
 
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I hope they don't until society can work on dismantling more of the privileges that white males receive. Unfortunately, white conservative males are trying all they can to maintain the inequities in our society that give them major advantages.

Just as soon as we find more straight white males in fashion lines, make-up, hair care, rap battles, on black comedy shows, nba, nfl, black groups and victoria secret fashion shows you fucking mindless twat. Kill yourself if you see "inequality" and cry a river every time :awe:


DERP DERP FOR RETARD DOUBLE STANDARDS :awe:
 
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Atreus21

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I have a hard time believing the SCOTUS will uphold institutionalized racism again.
 

Matt1970

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I hope they don't until society can work on dismantling more of the privileges that white males receive. Unfortunately, white conservative males are trying all they can to maintain the inequities in our society that give them major advantages.

In case you haven’t noticed, the highest job in America is currently held by a black man.
 

Atreus21

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Just as soon as we find more straight white males in fashion lines, make-up, hair care, rap battles, on black comedy shows, black groups and victoria secret fashion shows you fucking mindless twat. Kill yourself if you see "inequality" and cry a river every time :awe:


DERP DERP FOR RETARD DOUBLE STANDARDS :awe:

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PokerGuy

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Even if your intentions are good, racism is racism. I'm not in favor of anything that promotes using someone's race as the reason to do something.
 

Atreus21

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Nope, wouldn't surprise me at all, given the idiots that have been added over the past 4 years ....

They didn't replace anyone who would've vote the exact same way anyway. I can't see Roberts or Kennedy finding a way to justify racism.
 

Doppel

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When? Who knows.

It is absolutely not constitutional though, as it discriminates based on race.
 

Geosurface

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I hope they don't until society can work on dismantling more of the privileges that white males receive. Unfortunately, white conservative males are trying all they can to maintain the inequities in our society that give them major advantages.

Nature conferred those advantages, which is why certain groups have given rise to great civilizations and others never have.

Delude yourself into thinking all human beings are somehow identical in every respect except outwardly visible characteristics if you wish... but know that this is quite tangibly not the case.

There are differences in average brain weight at autopsy between Asians, whites, and blacks. These average brain weights just happen to coincide exactly with how persistent IQ scores for those same groups look.

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Black infants develop faster, particularly in motor function. Black women have a higher twinning rate than their white and Asian counterparts and these sorts of things are very much tied in with the selection pressures blacks did or did not face, as compared to the other two groups, in Africa. Nature basically has two nurture templates, roughly... r and K

In an environment with a lot of die off, as sub-Saharan Africa was prior to advancements brought from other parts of the world (and still is somewhat) producing more offspring is key to your genes being passed on. Quantity, and from the male perspective breeding with as many partners as possible, with low investment in any individual child, this is how nature works. The breeding strategy that suits the environment will be pursued.

Whites and Asians went to a very different environment, a much colder environment (particularly at that time) with different challenges. A different breeding strategy was selected for. High levels of attention on a smaller number of children, slower development of the child being the cost for a larger brain. Asians, who have the largest brains of the three groups, also have women with proportionately larger hips to accommodate the larger skull which accommodates the larger brain of the infant.

Whites and Asians have up to 4% Neanderthal DNA admixture, whereas blacks have none. That's another SPECIES and not to mention the Denisovans which are likewise only present in non-blacks. 4% is huge in DNA terms and all non-black humans are effectively a hybrid species as a result. This isn't to be brushed off lightly.

In a colder environment, natural selection will assert itself. It will require those who survive the harsh winters to be more predisposed to long-term planning, to setting aside resources and building shelter. The male in the cold weather environment must pay more attention to his offspring, or they and their mother will potentially die if he is not providing for them.

The American Psychological Institute puts IQ heritability at 70% leaving only 30% (which is generous) for environment.

A study I saw recently placed the role of genetics in determining if an individual will be a "life-course persistent" criminal at 70%

People create the types of living environments their genes dictate. See the colonies Europeans set up in Africa and elsewhere, or see Haiti and Detroit. Note the much more pervasive child-abandonment in the black community, and the much more pervasive practice of multiple children by multiple fathers/mothers.

These things, as well as the outrageously higher levels of black crime are not black peoples' fault. literally, they like anyone else are an expression of their genes, and how can anyone hold that against anyone else? None of us chose to be born as what we are. The baby mamma baby daddy stuff is a manifestation of a breeding strategy that was required by their environment. Again, not anyone's fault.

West Africans have a different center of gravity from whites and Asians and this is why they absolutely dominate sprinting. Limbs are shaped differently, etc... this is also why the NFL and NBA look the way they do.

Blacks have significantly higher testosterone than whites, and testosterone is linked to aggression. Testosterone helps explain why men are more aggressive than women, and why blacks are more aggressive than whites and Asians. Violent crimes per 100,000 people fits perfectly with the brain size and IQ distribution previously mentioned:

35 for Asian countries
42 for European countries
149 for African countries


In the United States, black males between the ages of 16 and 36 are about 3% of the population. They commit 33% of all crimes. Within many major crime categories blacks are more over-represented as perpetrators relative to whites than males are relative to females. Poor blacks commit crimes at much higher rates than poor Asians and poor Europeans.

The proportion of an area that is black is a better predictor of it's violent crime rate than the proportion of that area that is impoverished. In some major cities 40% of all black males have criminal records.

Ducrest et al. (2008) reviewed data on over 40 wild vertebrate species showing that within each species, darker pigmented individuals averaged higher levels of aggression and sexual activity than lighter pigmented individuals, with a larger body mass, more resistance to stress, and greater physical activity when grooming. The relationship between coloring and behavioral dominance was robust across three species of mammal (African lion, soay sheep, and white-tailed deer), four species of fish (mosquito fish, guppy, green swordtail, and Arctic charr), four species of reptile (asp viper, adder, fence lizard, and spiny lizard), one amphibian species (spadefoot toad) and 36 species of bird.

So when it comes to Affirmative Action? It must be struck down immediately because it is all based on the faulty premise that all people are equally suited to all things. This just isn't so.

I mean, if you want to start requiring the NBA and NFL to bring more whites and Asians in, or maybe women... or fat people... I guess you'll get some warm fuzzy feelings when you see how "diverse" the end result is, but you will also torpedo the team's effectiveness.

Likewise affirmative action is torpedoing the western world's effectiveness and competitive edge in the world.

Remember, all of this is AVERAGES so of course there are black people who are absolutely suited to be physicists, doctors, professors, and white people who are suited to be world class sprinters, or Asians who are intolerable, violent thugs who should be in prison.

All racial groups produce ALL types of people, but they DO NOT PRODUCE THEM AT THE SAME RATE.

The law of the land must provide the opportunity of equal access, so that when those blacks who are suited to any and all professions come along and wish to pursue said professions, they are not impeded in any way. This is only fair and right. However we MUST NOT be so blind and stupid as to think that if the end result is skewed heavily in favor of certain groups, like how Asians dominate admissions at universities when race isn't allowed to be looked at... that we must correct this with programs like AA to force square pegs into round holes.

So, expect to see Asian NBA players. Just don't expect to see many. Expect to see black astrophysicists. Just don't expect to see many.

So, let women be coal miners but don't be surprised when only a few are. Don't try to force it to be equal. Nature doesn't do equality.

Treat those who are in our nation, particularly those whose ancestors were brought here against their will, with complete fairness. But do not make social policies which will encourage certain women to pump out more kids than they can provide for, and do not have an open immigration policy that pretends all people are identical. Or kiss western civilization goodbye.

Again, no person chooses what genes to be born with. No person should be punished for that. This includes white men not being punished for not being "diverse" and their chances at admission to colleges, or employment, should not be hindered because they aren't the right color or gender.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHwzfpS0d2c

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vl8rtmTdpJM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmA6Kdy12jU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FwqTyVjGFA
 
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nehalem256

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So when it comes to Affirmative Action? It must be struck down immediately because it is all based on the faulty premise that all people are equally suited to all things. This just isn't so.

Actually I think think it is based on hatred of white men. How else do you explain the lack of affirmative action directed at men for college admissions despite the fact that 60% of new college graduates are women.

So, let women be coal miners but don't be surprised when only a few are. Don't try to force it to be equal. Nature doesn't do equality.

Why are liberals not demanding affirmative action for coal miners? Could it be that they don't actually care about equality so much as advancing women/minorities and punishing white men?
 
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Geosurface,

Get the fuck out of here with your useful information, proven statistical studies, and factual evidence. That crap has NO bearing in an argument about race.