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maddogchen

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Originally posted by: mwmorph
Originally posted by: maddogchen
Originally posted by: DaWhim
Originally posted by: gopunk
Originally posted by: FreshPrince
Originally posted by: gopunk
Originally posted by: DaWhim
Originally posted by: FreshPrince
summary:

chinese government = sux :thumbsdown:

China led by Taiwan = good :thumbsup:

are you a taiwanese? you sound like an idiot.

ditto


i'm sorry but that's just a laughable proposition... taiwan can't even lead itself properly.


BY leading properly do you mean?

rolling tanks over students or hiding the real truth by actively brainwashing your own people like sheep everyday?

the Taiwanese people know their government isn't perfect, but guess what? they can voice their opinion all they want without fearing for their lives or being blacklisted.

by leading properly, i mean conduct a real democracy (not "democracy") without assassination stunts and parlimentary fistfights. the taiwanese people have more freedom of speech, but that hardly qualifies the taiwanese government to lead china.

tawainese people criticizing china just make me laugh... the vast majority have never been to china, and the young ones just know what their parents have brainwashed them into believing.

sound like the OP to me. :laugh:

I don't think taiwan is any better than china. HK FTW :)

LOL HK FTW, in my opinion HK is worse off than either one of them. You can't vote for you leader and you aren't even in control of your own destiny like China or Taiwan.

Hey if you're this passionate about a 1 cihna, just invade, there's nothing stopping you, you have the support of the amricanns. Just shut up and do it stop complaining about bs and do something to prove that you guys arent just whinos that lost power in a civil war due to massive lack of goverment support and now we are going to come and finish the war by integrating you. All Taiwan has done is complain about threats and then do nothing about anything. That's a reliable goverment. If america adopted that model, we still be under parliamentary rule.

Seriously, I could care less about politics and all that bs. In the end, nohing realyl changes all that much. I just hate that people that complain, spread hate and then do nothing to fix their problems. To me you're as bas as those few select poor that just donr care and that freeload off welfare system, complaining you cant get a job because no one gives you a chance, cashing your checks and then sitting no your butt never trying to find a job because welfare pays for everything yuo need.

When did I say anything earlier in this thread about 1 China? Idiot. Why don't you read this thread more carefully. I hate people like you who attack people in the forums without an understanding of what they are saying. Learn to read IDIOT.
 

andylawcc

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Originally posted by: FreshPrince

chinese government = sux :thumbsdown:

China led by Taiwan = good :thumbsup:

most idiotic statement of the year.

above: my understatement of the year.
 

andylawcc

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Originally posted by: DaWhim


I don't think taiwan is any better than china. HK FTW :)

nah, HK ain't faring any better nowadays. WTO is hosting there, hope there be no idiots try to blow sh1t up.

me = be in HK this Friday.
 

amoeba

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wonder how many looters were shot in NO.

I don't see anything condemning the Chinese government in that article.

 

mwmorph

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Originally posted by: maddogchen
Originally posted by: mwmorph
Originally posted by: maddogchen
Originally posted by: DaWhim
Originally posted by: gopunk
Originally posted by: FreshPrince
Originally posted by: gopunk
Originally posted by: DaWhim
Originally posted by: FreshPrince
summary:

chinese government = sux :thumbsdown:

China led by Taiwan = good :thumbsup:

are you a taiwanese? you sound like an idiot.

ditto


i'm sorry but that's just a laughable proposition... taiwan can't even lead itself properly.


BY leading properly do you mean?

rolling tanks over students or hiding the real truth by actively brainwashing your own people like sheep everyday?

the Taiwanese people know their government isn't perfect, but guess what? they can voice their opinion all they want without fearing for their lives or being blacklisted.

by leading properly, i mean conduct a real democracy (not "democracy") without assassination stunts and parlimentary fistfights. the taiwanese people have more freedom of speech, but that hardly qualifies the taiwanese government to lead china.

tawainese people criticizing china just make me laugh... the vast majority have never been to china, and the young ones just know what their parents have brainwashed them into believing.

sound like the OP to me. :laugh:

I don't think taiwan is any better than china. HK FTW :)

LOL HK FTW, in my opinion HK is worse off than either one of them. You can't vote for you leader and you aren't even in control of your own destiny like China or Taiwan.

Hey if you're this passionate about a 1 cihna, just invade, there's nothing stopping you, you have the support of the amricanns. Just shut up and do it stop complaining about bs and do something to prove that you guys arent just whinos that lost power in a civil war due to massive lack of goverment support and now we are going to come and finish the war by integrating you. All Taiwan has done is complain about threats and then do nothing about anything. That's a reliable goverment. If america adopted that model, we still be under parliamentary rule.

Seriously, I could care less about politics and all that bs. In the end, nohing realyl changes all that much. I just hate that people that complain, spread hate and then do nothing to fix their problems. To me you're as bas as those few select poor that just donr care and that freeload off welfare system, complaining you cant get a job because no one gives you a chance, cashing your checks and then sitting no your butt never trying to find a job because welfare pays for everything yuo need.

When did I say anything earlier in this thread about 1 China? Idiot. Why don't you read this thread more carefully. I hate people like you who attack people in the forums without an understanding of what they are saying. Learn to read IDIOT.

calm down, i was replying to freshprince and accidently left your quote in there.

Originally posted by: DaShen
The OP and mwmorph are arguing over Taiwanese rul or China.

OP - Chang Kai Shek had his chance. Get over it. The only nation Taiwan should rule is Taiwan. It sucks that China is corrupt and blah, blah, blah... but do you really think Taiwan would do any better. I mean Taiwan was pretty corrupt at the beginning of its development. My parents families were quite influencial there (they owned a lot of land near Taipei, grandfathers were a highly respected business owners (both sides), and one was a journalist as well), but because of political unrest most of all my extended family, sold all their property and moved to the States 30-35 years ago. Even with that, my extended family on my dad's side is still active in the Taiwanese Chamber of Commerce, and much of my dad's side of the family rebuilt businesses in the States through hard work. Don't think that Taiwan was above reproach though, they are just more progressive than China because of their political structure.

mwmorph - The only people who really that think that Taiwan is still a part of China are the Chinese "taught" to believe this. The U.N. doens't recognize it because of political/military pressure. To say that it is a 50 year Civil War is quite ignorant IMO. Most Taiwanese people just want to be left alone by China, and not have ballistic missiles flying over their island, and China threatening to take drastic military action if Taiwan tries to claim independence, which they already have in the first place. Any economic development in Taiwan, which is really the only thing that China wants, was not done by China, it was done when Taiwan was independent of China. Give it a rest.

PLEASE PLEASE stop bickering over something that is obviously not going to change on either side of the issue.

Im not trying to say taiwanese are corrupt/evil/warmongering, just some are creating the majority of the problems like freshprince.
 

FreshPrince

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hey everybody gets brain washed everyday..

I get mine from Nike and Coca-Cola on a daily basis, but you know what? atleast I know it's brain wash...most idiots in China don't know the difference, because bottom line is, most Chinese are too proud to admit it. Face it, you know you're being brain wahsed, but you won't admit it...why?

The germans admit that their government was wrong and can not stop apologizing to their people.

The Japanese at least "act" like they realize they were wrong and again are apologetic about what they did in WWII. notice the double quotes ;)

Why won't the Chinese admit that their government totured and raped millions of their own people and children? because they don't know any better from all the government censorship and daily brainwash, bottom line. why does the world describe the Chinese as people scattered like pebbles of sand? because most chinese people are selfish individuals who are too proud to admit any mistakes in their history. this, they will admit because most Chinese act like @ssholes and think they're better than everybody else. psst, guess what? you're not. When the real leaders of China fled to Taiwan, they took the brightest and most talented people with them. They also took a large part of the chinese history and artifacts to taiwan and put it all in the national palace museum. how were they able to do this? because all the dumb@ss sheeple were left in china worshiping that pig Mao and giving all their 12 year old virgin daughters for him to rape.

While Taiwan grew to become one of the richest nations in the world inventing and making almost all of it's computer chips, China was still 3rd world ugly. It's only in the recent decade that the greedy investors in Taiwan started to build CPU fabs in China. These greedy Taiwanese investors allowed the training and sharing of knowledge to the sheeple of China. So, bottom line is China would not be where it's at today without Taiwan. Which brings me back to my point, if all talented people are in Taiwan, it's only natural that we invent all the cool stuff and get all the sheeple in China to make our processors for us. As well as all other goods, which is why in the 80's and 90's, everything was made in Taiwan, but now they're made in China. All the chinese people have proved that they're easily led like the sheeps they are. Now some of the smart people were left in China, but most of them have moved to the US or are students in the US. Believe me, 90% of them won't go back to China either. Which is why China led by Taiwan is better...it's a nation of sheeple! If you remove the communist government and replace it with the democratic on of Taiwan, China would be as strong if not stronger than the US. Ultimately, the world economy would be stronger and everyone is better off.
 

SilentZero

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Originally posted by: FreshPrince
hey everybody gets brain washed everyday..

I get mine from Nike and Coca-Cola on a daily basis, but you know what? atleast I know it's brain wash...most idiots in China don't know the difference, because bottom line is, most Chinese are too proud to admit it. Face it, you know you're being brain wahsed, but you won't admit it...why?

The germans admit that their government was wrong and can not stop apologizing to their people.

The Japanese at least "act" like they realize they were wrong and again are apologetic about what they did in WWII. notice the double quotes ;)

Why won't the Chinese admit that their government totured and raped millions of their own people and children? because they don't know any better from all the government censorship and daily brainwash, bottom line. why does the world describe the Chinese as people scattered like pebbles of sand? because most chinese people are selfish individuals who are too proud to admit any mistakes in their history. this, they will admit because most Chinese act like @ssholes and think they're better than everybody else. psst, guess what? you're not. When the real leaders of China fled to Taiwan, they took the brightest and most talented people with them. They also took a large part of the chinese history and artifacts to taiwan and put it all in the national palace museum. how were they able to do this? because all the dumb@ss sheeple were left in china worshiping that pig Mao and giving all their 12 year old virgin daughters for him to rape.

While Taiwan grew to become one of the richest nations in the world inventing and making almost all of it's computer chips, China was still 3rd world ugly. It's only in the recent decade that the greedy investors in Taiwan started to build CPU fabs in China. These greedy Taiwanese investors allowed the training and sharing of knowledge to the sheeple of China. So, bottom line is China would not be where it's at today without Taiwan. Which brings me back to my point, if all talented people are in Taiwan, it's only natural that we invent all the cool stuff and get all the sheeple in China to make our processors for us. As well as all other goods, which is why in the 80's and 90's, everything was made in Taiwan, but now they're made in China. All the chinese people have proved that they're easily led like the sheeps they are. Now some of the smart people were left in China, but most of them have moved to the US or are students in the US. Believe me, 90% of them won't go back to China either. Which is why China led by Taiwan is better...it's a nation of sheeple! If you remove the communist government and replace it with the democratic on of Taiwan, China would be as strong if not stronger than the US. Ultimately, the world economy would be stronger and everyone is better off.

WINNAR!
 

Skunkwourk

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Originally posted by: SilentZero
Originally posted by: FreshPrince
hey everybody gets brain washed everyday..

I get mine from Nike and Coca-Cola on a daily basis, but you know what? atleast I know it's brain wash...most idiots in China don't know the difference, because bottom line is, most Chinese are too proud to admit it. Face it, you know you're being brain wahsed, but you won't admit it...why?

The germans admit that their government was wrong and can not stop apologizing to their people.

The Japanese at least "act" like they realize they were wrong and again are apologetic about what they did in WWII. notice the double quotes ;)

Why won't the Chinese admit that their government totured and raped millions of their own people and children? because they don't know any better from all the government censorship and daily brainwash, bottom line. why does the world describe the Chinese as people scattered like pebbles of sand? because most chinese people are selfish individuals who are too proud to admit any mistakes in their history. this, they will admit because most Chinese act like @ssholes and think they're better than everybody else. psst, guess what? you're not. When the real leaders of China fled to Taiwan, they took the brightest and most talented people with them. They also took a large part of the chinese history and artifacts to taiwan and put it all in the national palace museum. how were they able to do this? because all the dumb@ss sheeple were left in china worshiping that pig Mao and giving all their 12 year old virgin daughters for him to rape.

While Taiwan grew to become one of the richest nations in the world inventing and making almost all of it's computer chips, China was still 3rd world ugly. It's only in the recent decade that the greedy investors in Taiwan started to build CPU fabs in China. These greedy Taiwanese investors allowed the training and sharing of knowledge to the sheeple of China. So, bottom line is China would not be where it's at today without Taiwan. Which brings me back to my point, if all talented people are in Taiwan, it's only natural that we invent all the cool stuff and get all the sheeple in China to make our processors for us. As well as all other goods, which is why in the 80's and 90's, everything was made in Taiwan, but now they're made in China. All the chinese people have proved that they're easily led like the sheeps they are. Now some of the smart people were left in China, but most of them have moved to the US or are students in the US. Believe me, 90% of them won't go back to China either. Which is why China led by Taiwan is better...it's a nation of sheeple! If you remove the communist government and replace it with the democratic on of Taiwan, China would be as strong if not stronger than the US. Ultimately, the world economy would be stronger and everyone is better off.

WINNAR!

ok but a china run by taiwan is still stupid. I personally feel that after 50 years both have operated independently for too long and a reunification would actually set them both back.
 

FreshPrince

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Originally posted by: Eghck
Originally posted by: SilentZero
Originally posted by: FreshPrince
hey everybody gets brain washed everyday..

I get mine from Nike and Coca-Cola on a daily basis, but you know what? atleast I know it's brain wash...most idiots in China don't know the difference, because bottom line is, most Chinese are too proud to admit it. Face it, you know you're being brain wahsed, but you won't admit it...why?

The germans admit that their government was wrong and can not stop apologizing to their people.

The Japanese at least "act" like they realize they were wrong and again are apologetic about what they did in WWII. notice the double quotes ;)

Why won't the Chinese admit that their government totured and raped millions of their own people and children? because they don't know any better from all the government censorship and daily brainwash, bottom line. why does the world describe the Chinese as people scattered like pebbles of sand? because most chinese people are selfish individuals who are too proud to admit any mistakes in their history. this, they will admit because most Chinese act like @ssholes and think they're better than everybody else. psst, guess what? you're not. When the real leaders of China fled to Taiwan, they took the brightest and most talented people with them. They also took a large part of the chinese history and artifacts to taiwan and put it all in the national palace museum. how were they able to do this? because all the dumb@ss sheeple were left in china worshiping that pig Mao and giving all their 12 year old virgin daughters for him to rape.

While Taiwan grew to become one of the richest nations in the world inventing and making almost all of it's computer chips, China was still 3rd world ugly. It's only in the recent decade that the greedy investors in Taiwan started to build CPU fabs in China. These greedy Taiwanese investors allowed the training and sharing of knowledge to the sheeple of China. So, bottom line is China would not be where it's at today without Taiwan. Which brings me back to my point, if all talented people are in Taiwan, it's only natural that we invent all the cool stuff and get all the sheeple in China to make our processors for us. As well as all other goods, which is why in the 80's and 90's, everything was made in Taiwan, but now they're made in China. All the chinese people have proved that they're easily led like the sheeps they are. Now some of the smart people were left in China, but most of them have moved to the US or are students in the US. Believe me, 90% of them won't go back to China either. Which is why China led by Taiwan is better...it's a nation of sheeple! If you remove the communist government and replace it with the democratic on of Taiwan, China would be as strong if not stronger than the US. Ultimately, the world economy would be stronger and everyone is better off.

WINNAR!

ok but a china run by taiwan is still stupid. I personally feel that after 50 years both have operated independently for too long and a reunification would actually set them both back.


you're right, Taiwan would take 2 steps back before it can take 10 steps forward. It will take some time to convert all them sheeps, but I would think in a good 10 year period, the new China would be far better off.
 

Pepsei

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Taiwan should be run by Taiwanese,

China should be run by Chinese people (I'd prefer those students, they must've love their country to willing to die for it)

And in the near future, Taiwan would be more likely to accept unification if China is not as hard core as they are today.

I know a lot of Chinese students who wouldn't want to go back to China because of the conditions there.
I personally have no problem going back to Taiwan and take a job there (especially with my US citizenship to fall back on).
 

Accipiter22

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Originally posted by: Pepsei
Taiwan should be run by Taiwanese,

China should be run by Chinese people (I'd prefer those students, they must've love their country to willing to die for it)

And in the near future, Taiwan would be more likely to accept unification if China is not as hard core as they are today.

I know a lot of Chinese students who wouldn't want to go back to China because of the conditions there.
I personally have no problem going back to Taiwan and take a job there (especially with my US citizenship to fall back on).

AWFUL BUMP!
 

thelanx

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Originally posted by: FreshPrince
hey everybody gets brain washed everyday..

I get mine from Nike and Coca-Cola on a daily basis, but you know what? atleast I know it's brain wash...most idiots in China don't know the difference, because bottom line is, most Chinese are too proud to admit it. Face it, you know you're being brain wahsed, but you won't admit it...why?

The germans admit that their government was wrong and can not stop apologizing to their people.

The Japanese at least "act" like they realize they were wrong and again are apologetic about what they did in WWII. notice the double quotes ;)

Why won't the Chinese admit that their government totured and raped millions of their own people and children? because they don't know any better from all the government censorship and daily brainwash, bottom line. why does the world describe the Chinese as people scattered like pebbles of sand? because most chinese people are selfish individuals who are too proud to admit any mistakes in their history. this, they will admit because most Chinese act like @ssholes and think they're better than everybody else. psst, guess what? you're not. When the real leaders of China fled to Taiwan, they took the brightest and most talented people with them. They also took a large part of the chinese history and artifacts to taiwan and put it all in the national palace museum. how were they able to do this? because all the dumb@ss sheeple were left in china worshiping that pig Mao and giving all their 12 year old virgin daughters for him to rape.

While Taiwan grew to become one of the richest nations in the world inventing and making almost all of it's computer chips, China was still 3rd world ugly. It's only in the recent decade that the greedy investors in Taiwan started to build CPU fabs in China. These greedy Taiwanese investors allowed the training and sharing of knowledge to the sheeple of China. So, bottom line is China would not be where it's at today without Taiwan. Which brings me back to my point, if all talented people are in Taiwan, it's only natural that we invent all the cool stuff and get all the sheeple in China to make our processors for us. As well as all other goods, which is why in the 80's and 90's, everything was made in Taiwan, but now they're made in China. All the chinese people have proved that they're easily led like the sheeps they are. Now some of the smart people were left in China, but most of them have moved to the US or are students in the US. Believe me, 90% of them won't go back to China either. Which is why China led by Taiwan is better...it's a nation of sheeple! If you remove the communist government and replace it with the democratic on of Taiwan, China would be as strong if not stronger than the US. Ultimately, the world economy would be stronger and everyone is better off.

Are you ****** kidding me? Just about every post I've seen you make about this topic is full of inane, simple-minded and biased comments. Way to generalize, belibel and villianize over 1.3 billion people. I guess they're all the same dimwitted brain-washed pigs huh? It seems the only dimwitted "dumb@ss sheeple" here is you. Stop the hypocrisy please and reexamine the one-sided views you were fed; reexamine and research the complex issues at hand as well.

Also, the Japanese are not nearly as remorseful and apologetic as you portray them. The following quote exhibits yet more of your bias:

The Japanese at least "act" like they realize they were wrong and again are apologetic about what they did in WWII. notice the double quotes ;)

Their recent textbook controversy is just one of the many denials of their actions in WWII.

A link taken from outpost nine for example

I could point out many more holes in your weak and childishly biased comments, but I think I've made my point.
 

OulOat

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Originally posted by: thelanx
Originally posted by: FreshPrince
hey everybody gets brain washed everyday..

I get mine from Nike and Coca-Cola on a daily basis, but you know what? atleast I know it's brain wash...most idiots in China don't know the difference, because bottom line is, most Chinese are too proud to admit it. Face it, you know you're being brain wahsed, but you won't admit it...why?

The germans admit that their government was wrong and can not stop apologizing to their people.

The Japanese at least "act" like they realize they were wrong and again are apologetic about what they did in WWII. notice the double quotes ;)

Why won't the Chinese admit that their government totured and raped millions of their own people and children? because they don't know any better from all the government censorship and daily brainwash, bottom line. why does the world describe the Chinese as people scattered like pebbles of sand? because most chinese people are selfish individuals who are too proud to admit any mistakes in their history. this, they will admit because most Chinese act like @ssholes and think they're better than everybody else. psst, guess what? you're not. When the real leaders of China fled to Taiwan, they took the brightest and most talented people with them. They also took a large part of the chinese history and artifacts to taiwan and put it all in the national palace museum. how were they able to do this? because all the dumb@ss sheeple were left in china worshiping that pig Mao and giving all their 12 year old virgin daughters for him to rape.

While Taiwan grew to become one of the richest nations in the world inventing and making almost all of it's computer chips, China was still 3rd world ugly. It's only in the recent decade that the greedy investors in Taiwan started to build CPU fabs in China. These greedy Taiwanese investors allowed the training and sharing of knowledge to the sheeple of China. So, bottom line is China would not be where it's at today without Taiwan. Which brings me back to my point, if all talented people are in Taiwan, it's only natural that we invent all the cool stuff and get all the sheeple in China to make our processors for us. As well as all other goods, which is why in the 80's and 90's, everything was made in Taiwan, but now they're made in China. All the chinese people have proved that they're easily led like the sheeps they are. Now some of the smart people were left in China, but most of them have moved to the US or are students in the US. Believe me, 90% of them won't go back to China either. Which is why China led by Taiwan is better...it's a nation of sheeple! If you remove the communist government and replace it with the democratic on of Taiwan, China would be as strong if not stronger than the US. Ultimately, the world economy would be stronger and everyone is better off.

Are you ****** kidding me? Just about every post I've seen you make about this topic is full of inane, simple-minded and biased comments. Way to generalize, belibel and villianize over 1.3 billion people. I guess they're all the same dimwitted brain-washed pigs huh? It seems the only dimwitted "dumb@ss sheeple" here is you. Stop the hypocrisy please and reexamine the one-sided views you were fed; reexamine and research the complex issues at hand as well.

Also, the Japanese are not nearly as remorseful and apologetic as you portray them. The following quote exhibits yet more of your bias:

The Japanese at least "act" like they realize they were wrong and again are apologetic about what they did in WWII. notice the double quotes ;)

Their recent textbook controversy is just one of the many denials of their actions in WWII.

A link taken from outpost nine for example

I could point out many more holes in your weak and childishly biased comments, but I think I've made my point.

Zing!
 

FreshPrince

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Originally posted by: OulOat
Originally posted by: thelanx
Originally posted by: FreshPrince
hey everybody gets brain washed everyday..

I get mine from Nike and Coca-Cola on a daily basis, but you know what? atleast I know it's brain wash...most idiots in China don't know the difference, because bottom line is, most Chinese are too proud to admit it. Face it, you know you're being brain wahsed, but you won't admit it...why?

The germans admit that their government was wrong and can not stop apologizing to their people.

The Japanese at least "act" like they realize they were wrong and again are apologetic about what they did in WWII. notice the double quotes ;)

Why won't the Chinese admit that their government totured and raped millions of their own people and children? because they don't know any better from all the government censorship and daily brainwash, bottom line. why does the world describe the Chinese as people scattered like pebbles of sand? because most chinese people are selfish individuals who are too proud to admit any mistakes in their history. this, they will admit because most Chinese act like @ssholes and think they're better than everybody else. psst, guess what? you're not. When the real leaders of China fled to Taiwan, they took the brightest and most talented people with them. They also took a large part of the chinese history and artifacts to taiwan and put it all in the national palace museum. how were they able to do this? because all the dumb@ss sheeple were left in china worshiping that pig Mao and giving all their 12 year old virgin daughters for him to rape.

While Taiwan grew to become one of the richest nations in the world inventing and making almost all of it's computer chips, China was still 3rd world ugly. It's only in the recent decade that the greedy investors in Taiwan started to build CPU fabs in China. These greedy Taiwanese investors allowed the training and sharing of knowledge to the sheeple of China. So, bottom line is China would not be where it's at today without Taiwan. Which brings me back to my point, if all talented people are in Taiwan, it's only natural that we invent all the cool stuff and get all the sheeple in China to make our processors for us. As well as all other goods, which is why in the 80's and 90's, everything was made in Taiwan, but now they're made in China. All the chinese people have proved that they're easily led like the sheeps they are. Now some of the smart people were left in China, but most of them have moved to the US or are students in the US. Believe me, 90% of them won't go back to China either. Which is why China led by Taiwan is better...it's a nation of sheeple! If you remove the communist government and replace it with the democratic on of Taiwan, China would be as strong if not stronger than the US. Ultimately, the world economy would be stronger and everyone is better off.

Are you ****** kidding me? Just about every post I've seen you make about this topic is full of inane, simple-minded and biased comments. Way to generalize, belibel and villianize over 1.3 billion people. I guess they're all the same dimwitted brain-washed pigs huh? It seems the only dimwitted "dumb@ss sheeple" here is you. Stop the hypocrisy please and reexamine the one-sided views you were fed; reexamine and research the complex issues at hand as well.

Also, the Japanese are not nearly as remorseful and apologetic as you portray them. The following quote exhibits yet more of your bias:

The Japanese at least "act" like they realize they were wrong and again are apologetic about what they did in WWII. notice the double quotes ;)

Their recent textbook controversy is just one of the many denials of their actions in WWII.

A link taken from outpost nine for example

I could point out many more holes in your weak and childishly biased comments, but I think I've made my point.

Zing!

zing nothing..

any who the hell bumped this thread anyways? I already had my fun...no need to rub salt into wound :p

 

Mo0o

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All this talk is is pointless. The most likely situation is that Taiwan will gain full independence and international recognition some time down the line. The next is probably China annexing Taiwan after heavy reforms and such to its own government. Third is jesus coming back and making love to Mao's body. Fourth is Taiwan annexing China and rulling the main continent from Taipei
 

everman

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Many experts are saying that China's growing middle class (close to 300m or so now) will push them towards a more democratic nation, it appears to be going that way.