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When will the Athlon FX 939 chips be under $400?

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IronMentality

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I am going to be building a gaming PC for myself soon, and was wondering if anyone knows when the FX Athlon 64 chips will be dropping in price on the 939 socket. The 3.2 ghz P4's just simply don't cut it compared to them, and currently the FX CPU's are really expensive.

Also, when will a chipset be available that allows the 939's to have PCI Express on there boards? This is also a reason I am waiting a bit before some better motherboards come out.

Any help would be appreciated greatly.
 
Originally posted by: Tiamat
Currently Newegg has the 3500+ for like 365$
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He is talking about the FX chips and the plain 939 chips...

I don't see the FX chips being under $400 for another 6-9 months at least...
 
FX never. it's thier top dawg the 51 is still $800. Does EEs ever drop? I don't think so. If you want the very best Intel and AMD want you to pay a massive premium for this 'benefit' simple as that.
 
Originally posted by: Zebo
FX never. it's thier top dawg the 51 is still $800. Does EEs ever drop? I don't think so. If you want the very best Intel and AMD want you to pay a massive premium for this 'benefit' simple as that.
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Right, AMD will discontinue an old FX CPU before they ever drop it's price.
 
If you're waiting for PCI-e, you're going to have to wait until Christmas for N-force4 or Via 1000. If you're waiting for sub $200 939, first quarter 2005. See this stuff is spaced out just enough to make you buy over and over.
...then summer/fall 2005 expect BTX and DDR2..


There never is a "time to buy" if you have eyes on the future.
 
Originally posted by: Manzelle
Originally posted by: Tiamat
Currently Newegg has the 3500+ for like 365$
Click to expand...

He is talking about the FX chips and the plain 939 chips...

I don't see the FX chips being under $400 for another 6-9 months at least...
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Oh whoops, my bad, pays to read!

FX Chips? They will probably not be under 400$ ever - at least on the retail market. It seems they will always be 600+$ "premium chip prices". They will just get phased out as the speeds get faster. The point of an FX chip is "Hey I payed lots of money for this baby." The second point being "Hey, I can overclock it!"
 
the FX will never be a good deal if they hit $600 or less, because there will always be something that's a non FX that's better. the athlon 64 3500+ or even 3700+ is faster then the fx-51 for cheaper. because the FX is a fast chip, it doesnt mean it's worth it. like right now, the fx-53 is barely any faster then the 3800+ and it costs $250 or so more then the 3800+.
 
Well, I don't need an FX chip then. As long as I get a socket 939 Athlon 64 with PCI Express I'll be happy. I have no problem when DDR2 becomes affordable in buying a new motherboard in the future and some new memory.

What I don't want to do is spend premium for a gaming PC on an AGP 8x graphics card when PCI-Express is going to be the way to go. I just figured that the lower end FX chips would drop in price while being phased in with the new technology already on the Intel boards.

When the next NVidia card comes out, and the 939 boards have PCI-Express support, you can't count me in as a buyer 🙂
 
I think it still remains to be seen if PCI-E is even going to be worth it, at least at first. Unless you're looking to do some sort of SLI setup, which most boards probably won't even support at first, it might be minimal the performance increase you'll actually see. Take a look at AGP 4X vs. 8X or even AGP 1X vs. PCI for example.

The only real performance increases are typically core to core (CPUs or GPUs), not interface to interface. Besides, if you don't mind shelling cash out for when DDR2 becomes standard, which coincedently is probably when PCI-E will become standard, it shouldn't matter anyway when it is you buy.
 
Originally posted by: IronMentality
Well, I don't need an FX chip then. As long as I get a socket 939 Athlon 64 with PCI Express I'll be happy. I have no problem when DDR2 becomes affordable in buying a new motherboard in the future and some new memory.
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Your gonna have to buy a new CPU too due to the Athlon 64's onboard memory controller.
 
Well, by the time DDR2 is selling at low Cas latencys at affordable prices at high speeds, I'll probably won't have a problem buying a new CPU by then 🙂
 
I've read the amount of bandwith in an PCI-Express card far surpasses what 8x offers, and the difference from 4x to 8x was minimal. I'll definitely be interested in an PCI-Express card with 512MB so I can play Doom 3 on Ultra. 🙂
 
I'm pretty sure going from 4x-8x, bandwidth went from 1Gb/s to 2Gb/s. PCI-E is supposed to be 4Gb/s. So if going from 1 to 2 didn't bring much benefit, what would going from 2 to 4 do? That's based on my current understanding of it.

The benefits of a new interface are limited until hardware that can actually use any additional bandwidth increase is released, which is usually quite a bit after the interface becomes standard.
 
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