When will DDR2 replace DDR?

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oogabooga

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I think the replacement will be in the next couple of years. Once AMD adobts the technology and the vast majority of companies begin producing it (IE look at how most new boards/comps have ddr in some fashion now). It won't happen overnight, very few things in technology seem to anyway, but it will happen at some point i think. DDR is the best thing we have and this just seems to be the next generation of it.
 

w00t

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Originally posted by: Theguynextdoor
Originally posted by: w00t
ddr2 is a marketing gimic and please dont say woot newb. intel is not bad right now its just amd is better for gaming but intels can be better for alot of other things.


Says the slightly older newb...


um no i have read reviews ddr2 and ddr. its true heres the link read the highlighted
 

w00t

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i bet your lied about that too and really are a guy or a shemale, besides i wasnt talking about you i was talking to theguynextdoor
 

Theguynextdoor

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Originally posted by: w00t
Originally posted by: Theguynextdoor
Originally posted by: w00t
ddr2 is a marketing gimic and please dont say woot newb. intel is not bad right now its just amd is better for gaming but intels can be better for alot of other things.


Says the slightly older newb...


um no i have read reviews ddr2 and ddr. its true heres the link read the highlighted

:roll:

Ok...I never said anything about what you stated being wrong. Just your hostility towards a fellow forum member. Just because he's a newb doesn't mean he's not knowledgable in other areas.
 

w00t

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Originally posted by: Theguynextdoor
Originally posted by: w00t
Originally posted by: Theguynextdoor
Originally posted by: w00t
ddr2 is a marketing gimic and please dont say woot newb. intel is not bad right now its just amd is better for gaming but intels can be better for alot of other things.


Says the slightly older newb...


um no i have read reviews ddr2 and ddr. its true heres the link read the highlighted

:roll:

Ok...I never said anything about what you stated being wrong. Just your hostility towards a fellow forum member. Just because he's a newb doesn't mean he's not knowledgable in other areas.

um i dont think you know him yet. read some more of his stuff.he makes a new thread every 3sec pretended he was rich made bad comment towards other good members.
 

Insomniak

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Originally posted by: Duvie

I stand corrected!!! But clearly vid cards were becomng bandwidth limited and thus the move. .


Uh, not really. Graphics cards never used DDR2, aside from the GeForce FX 5800 series if I recall correctly. Graphics card makers went straight to GDDR3 because:

A) It was ready
B) It runs faster clockspeeds than GDDR2
C) It's less expensive to produce/use than GDDR2

Among other reasons.

Basically, GDDR2 got skipped because...well, by the time it was ready to go, better stuff was out.
 

Blain

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Originally posted by: phantomracoon
dude^ u dont even got Corsair ram. Also, people always get OCZ ram so i want to be different!
You're right... I don't have Corsair. :( Now I feel inferior :(
But at least the RAM I do have LOOKs GOOD :laugh:
 

Gamingphreek

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Lol Blain.

Well DDR2 has to have it clockspeed significantly ramped up to provide any benefit as the latencies are much much higher on DDR2 than on DDR(1).

Also intel has adopted it early because IIRC it does provide more bandwidth which the P4 can always use (no ondie memory controller remember)

AMD can support it if they want but they would have to make a new core with an updated memory controller. There is no point for them to support it right now because they dont need more bandwidth (relatively speaking) they benefit much more from reduced latencies.

I remember reading an article concerning GDDR2 and its faults and stuff, im gonna see if i cant dig it up.

-Kevin
 

boyRacer

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Originally posted by: Blain
Originally posted by: phantomracoon
dude^ u dont even got Corsair ram. Also, people always get OCZ ram so i want to be different!
You're right... I don't have Corsair. :( Now I feel inferior :(
But at least the RAM I do have LOOKs GOOD :laugh:

*RIM SHOT*
 

PhlashFoto

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Why dont ppl do some searching around for what ppl seem to recommend and use? I personally use Crucial exclusively. But reading from things called reviews and what not, I could easily recommend a few brands that I have read that work great. All it takes is looking around.
 

classy

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I don't think AMD is going to be using DDR2 till like 2006 or 2007. I thought I read that somewhere.
 

mastertech01

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I remember paying large for a set of 32bit PC1066 RDRAM for the ASUS board sometime back. A huge mistake. It went nowhere fast. DDR2 will surely be more successful.
 

dguy6789

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Socket 900 comes out in 2005, and will have ddr2 and pcie with it. Once it comes out, amd is gonna drop all support and making of 754 and 939 cpus, and hence, support of ddr1. Old pcs will still have it, but once socket 900 comes out, amd will not be making any more 939/754 cpus at all.
 

Matthias99

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Originally posted by: dguy6789
Socket 900 comes out in 2005, and will have ddr2 and pcie with it. Once it comes out, amd is gonna drop all support and making of 754 and 939 cpus, and hence, support of ddr1. Old pcs will still have it, but once socket 900 comes out, amd will not be making any more 939/754 cpus at all.

Source?

Somehow I doubt AMD is completely dropping what is still a relatively young product line. The customers (and motherboard makers) would revolt. Especially considering that S939 is essentially the same as S940, and they can't stop making S940 server CPUs if they want to have any shot of competing in the server market. The current roadmap shows the Athlon64s lasting at least through the end of 2005, and just starting to move to dual core at that point. No mention of DDR2. Some rumors peg the "Toledo" dual-core Athlon64 FX as having DDR2 support (and maybe being on a different socket) -- but note that the single-core S939/754 processors are also shown as lasting through 2005 and beyond.

AMD processor roadmap
 

dguy6789

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Originally posted by: Matthias99
Originally posted by: dguy6789
Socket 900 comes out in 2005, and will have ddr2 and pcie with it. Once it comes out, amd is gonna drop all support and making of 754 and 939 cpus, and hence, support of ddr1. Old pcs will still have it, but once socket 900 comes out, amd will not be making any more 939/754 cpus at all.

Source?

Somehow I doubt AMD is completely dropping what is still a relatively young product line. The customers (and motherboard makers) would revolt. Especially considering that S939 is essentially the same as S940, and they can't stop making S940 server CPUs if they want to have any shot of competing in the server market. The current roadmap shows the Athlon64s lasting at least through the end of 2005, and just starting to move to dual core at that point. No mention of DDR2. Some rumors peg the "Toledo" dual-core Athlon64 FX as having DDR2 support (and maybe being on a different socket) -- but note that the single-core S939/754 processors are also shown as lasting through 2005 and beyond.

AMD processor roadmap



Look it up. Socket 940 will stay, I never said otherwise. They will continue to make 940/900 cpus for a while, 939 and 754 will be stopping.

http://www.amd.com/us-en/Corpo.../0,,51_104_608,00.html


Seems pretty blank for the second half of 05 for the desktop Athlon 64s so far......