When will ar15 ammo prices drop?

[Gunslinger08]

I've been able to get 5.56 (http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/product/AMM-285) for about .38 a round for a while. I haven't owned an AR-15 for very long, so I thought this was pretty pricey for ammo, but it seems like even historical prices were in the .35 range for non-steel ammo. 22lr seems to be the only thing that's hard to find around here with a huge markup.

As an aside, the way they media reports on ammo count should be hilarious to anyone who knows anything about guns. George Zimmerman's 106 rounds were called a "large ammo stash" by the LA Times. Have these people never fired a gun before? You can blow through 106 rounds in 5 minutes at the range.

 

[twinrider1]

Back to 2007 prices?

 

[OCGuy]

I've been able to get 5.56 (http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/product/AMM-285) for about .38 a round for a while. I haven't owned an AR-15 for very long, so I thought this was pretty pricey for ammo, but it seems like even historical prices were in the .35 range for non-steel ammo. 22lr seems to be the only thing that's hard to find around here with a huge markup.

As an aside, the way they media reports on ammo count should be hilarious to anyone who knows anything about guns. George Zimmerman's 106 rounds were called a "large ammo stash" by the LA Times. Have these people never fired a gun before? You can blow through 106 rounds in 5 minutes at the range.

I've actually shooting cheaper .223 out of the ARs because my woman usually takes her Mini 14 to the range so I just haven't seen a point in bringing both kinds.

 

[BladeVenom]

George Zimmerman's 106 rounds were called a "large ammo stash" by the LA Times. Have these people never fired a gun before? You can blow through 106 rounds in 5 minutes at the range.

The LA Times is propaganda not news.

 

[JEDI]

saw shelf space at walmart 1000 rds .223 for $395
of course it was empty

but at least prices are coming down.

and I saw a deal on a bushmaster .223/556 with red dot scope for $575 shipped!

 

[Kadarin]

^^^ gunbot.net shows PMC green tip at $394/1000. Of course, have to add shipping...

 

[JEDI]

^^^ gunbot.net shows PMC green tip at $394/1000. Of course, have to add shipping...

green tips are good for firing thru obstructions like cars doors.
do they tumble in flesh like a 5.56 if it hits the person directly?

 

[Svnla]

Purchased about 1K rounds of .223/5.56 brass (Geco and Federal American Eagle) from PSA over the weekend for about $0.40 per round (including shipping). Not great but not bad.

 

[Brian Stirling]

The gun industry will cry the day there is a Republican in the oval office.

Exactly!


Put another way ... the single biggest factor in gun and ammo sales is the stupid Democrats that reflexively demand bans whenever a tragedy like Sandy Hook or Columbine happen. If they focused there efforts to close the gun show loopholes instead of demanding AR-15's be made illegal they might have a chance of doing something that might actually reduce gun violence, but no, they can't help themselves and the gun industry and the NRA depend on them to be that way.

BTW, I'm a gun owner and I reload, but permitting criminals to buys guns at gun shows is stupid and there's good evidence that a high percentage of the guns that make it into the cartels hands are purchased, legally, at gun shows.

But, mark my words, the very next tragedy involving guns and the predictable morons on the left (ie, Piers Morgan, etc) will be demanding that AR-15's be taken from the public AND, sales of guns and ammo will skyrocket!


Brian

 

[moonbogg]

.223 ammo is far from a concern to me anymore. Its so damn cheap I don't even consider the cost. This is thanks to reloading. I make rounds that would cost $1.50ea for like 30 cents. Buying loaded ammo sounds like the most absurd thing ever now.

 

[corwin]

.223 ammo is far from a concern to me anymore. Its so damn cheap I don't even consider the cost. This is thanks to reloading. I make rounds that would cost $1.50ea for like 30 cents. Buying loaded ammo sounds like the most absurd thing ever now.

For those who have the time to reload sure, hell I can barely find time to get to the range to shoot let alone clean, prep and load my own rounds:hmm:

For cheaper ammo check out the new Wolf gold line ammo, brass cased and full copper jacket (not bi-metal) at $365/1000 not including shipping http://www.ammosupplywarehouse.com/category/2230/223556-RIFLE-AMMUNITION.html

 

[J3S73R]

For those who have the time to reload sure, hell I can barely find time to get to the range to shoot let alone clean, prep and load my own rounds:hmm:

For cheaper ammo check out the new Wolf gold line ammo, brass cased and full copper jacket (not bi-metal) at $365/1000 not including shipping http://www.ammosupplywarehouse.com/category/2230/223556-RIFLE-AMMUNITION.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3z7GB6RD4kI

 

[moonbogg]

For those who have the time to reload sure, hell I can barely find time to get to the range to shoot let alone clean, prep and load my own rounds:hmm:

For cheaper ammo check out the new Wolf gold line ammo, brass cased and full copper jacket (not bi-metal) at $365/1000 not including shipping http://www.ammosupplywarehouse.com/category/2230/223556-RIFLE-AMMUNITION.html

It also depends on how much you shoot, so I see your point. I don't go to the range and spray and pray the crap out of the entire hillside. I pull the trigger once and hit the target. Shooting for groups and small targets is a great way to conserve ammo. If you are one of those government apocalypse zombie freaks, then good on you mate cause you need lots of ammo.

 

[Majcric]

Not sure about the AR-15 ammo. I'm an AK-47 guy myself and the ammo prices are still nice and cheap. For this reason, I might even buy another AK.

 

[corwin]

It also depends on how much you shoot, so I see your point. I don't go to the range and spray and pray the crap out of the entire hillside. I pull the trigger once and hit the target. Shooting for groups and small targets is a great way to conserve ammo. If you are one of those government apocalypse zombie freaks, then good on you mate cause you need lots of ammo.

Well I do love zombies...but mostly I just shoot for the fun of it, I usually burn through 4+ mags on any given trip and usually nothing past 50yds, but then again I buy the cheap stuff so I don't have to conserve ammo

Frankly I could care less if I could take the head off a groundhog at 100+ yards or put 5 rounds in an inch, it's not something I have any desire or need to do. If the world does go to shit for whatever reason I'm quite confident I could take out a man sized target from a reasonable distance, outside of that incredibly unlikely scenario I just punch holes in paper and enjoy it for what it is. That said if I had the time I would reload as well, and I have begun saving my brass for when that day comes or I'll end up selling it to somebody who does reload

 

[corwin]

Not sure about the AR-15 ammo. I'm an AK-47 guy myself and the ammo prices are still nice and cheap. For this reason, I might even buy another AK.

For steel case yes, but steel case .223 is still cheap too, barely more than your 7.62x39...brass cased ammo is always more expensive

 

[Bartman39]

It also depends on how much you shoot, so I see your point. I don't go to the range and spray and pray the crap out of the entire hillside. I pull the trigger once and hit the target. Shooting for groups and small targets is a great way to conserve ammo. If you are one of those government apocalypse zombie freaks, then good on you mate cause you need lots of ammo.

I have to do this with my 300BLK & 6.8 Rem SPC that shit is expensive... So now I am about to get into the reloading scene too, just aquired 1K rounds of brass for my 6.8 and already have a bunch of 223/5.56 brass that as I understand can be re-necked to make 300BLK...? Primers seem to be the issue for now...? Where to find them...?

 

[JDMnAR1]

Exactly!


Put another way ... the single biggest factor in gun and ammo sales is the stupid Democrats that reflexively demand bans whenever a tragedy like Sandy Hook or Columbine happen. If they focused there efforts to close the gun show loopholes instead of demanding AR-15's be made illegal they might have a chance of doing something that might actually reduce gun violence, but no, they can't help themselves and the gun industry and the NRA depend on them to be that way.

BTW, I'm a gun owner and I reload, but permitting criminals to buys guns at gun shows is stupid and there's good evidence that a high percentage of the guns that make it into the cartels hands are purchased, legally, at gun shows.

But, mark my words, the very next tragedy involving guns and the predictable morons on the left (ie, Piers Morgan, etc) will be demanding that AR-15's be taken from the public AND, sales of guns and ammo will skyrocket!


Brian

What loophole? If you are a private seller that chooses to sell your personal collection at a gun show, or if you are a licensed FFL selling at that same show, there is no magical demarcation line that causes any applicable local, state or federal law from applying inside that show. Dealers are legally required to complete a 4473 on each transaction, and private individuals cannot knowingly sell to a prohibited person.

If you are knowingly permitting a criminal to buy a gun - either private sale, gun dealer or gun show - you yourself are committing a crime.

Let's see this evidence. No one can even get the DOJ/ATF to talk about numbers of guns THEY knowingly handed over to cartels, so where is this hard data you speak of?

 

[slag]

My Walmart has looked like that most of this year, though nowadays shotgun ammunition is once again prevalent and not just bird shot.

I was in podunk, Kansas this past weekend and stopped by the local walmart there. I was surprised to see they had 40 cal and 9 mm, both 50 and 100 count boxes in plentiful supply. I picked up a box of 100 for my glock, but should have purchased my limit of 3, which brings me back up to around 400 rounds. I would like to be at 1000 rounds of ammo, but with Christmas around the corner, it will have to wait.

 

[Brian Stirling]

What loophole? If you are a private seller that chooses to sell your personal collection at a gun show, or if you are a licensed FFL selling at that same show, there is no magical demarcation line that causes any applicable local, state or federal law from applying inside that show. Dealers are legally required to complete a 4473 on each transaction, and private individuals cannot knowingly sell to a prohibited person.

If you are knowingly permitting a criminal to buy a gun - either private sale, gun dealer or gun show - you yourself are committing a crime.

Let's see this evidence. No one can even get the DOJ/ATF to talk about numbers of guns THEY knowingly handed over to cartels, so where is this hard data you speak of?

When an individual without a FFL sells a gun they do not have to perform a background check so how could they possibly know if the person they were selling it to is legally able to buy it? If a criminal goes to a gun show or to an individual to buy a gun but the individual selling the gun does not conduct a background check the criminal can get the gun even though they are not legally qualified to buy it.

Getting hard data when there's no law requiring the collection of that data is by design impossible.

I think every gun sale should require a background check and it should not matter if the seller has a FFL or not. Do you think it's a good idea to allow criminals to buy guns?


Brian

 

[corwin]

When an individual without a FFL sells a gun they do not have to perform a background check so how could they possibly know if the person they were selling it to is legally able to buy it? If a criminal goes to a gun show or to an individual to buy a gun but the individual selling the gun does not conduct a background check the criminal can get the gun even though they are not legally qualified to buy it.

Getting hard data when there's no law requiring the collection of that data is by design impossible.

I think every gun sale should require a background check and it should not matter if the seller has a FFL or not. Do you think it's a good idea to allow criminals to buy guns?


Brian

Research has shown that theft, black market purchases and straw purchases make up the incredibly vast majority of guns used in crime...the "gun show loophole" is a strawman argument

 

[HumblePie]

Research has shown that theft, black market purchases and straw purchases make up the incredibly vast majority of guns used in crime...the "gun show loophole" is a strawman argument

This.

Basically guns for the majority of crimes (robberies, murders, and gang related activities) come from theft, purchases from other criminals, or straw purchases through a person that can "legally" and I use the term loosely buy guns. Basically gang-banger X with a criminal record uses his girlfriend without a criminal record to buy guns for himself and his gang. That's a straw purchase. The purchase was done legally and a background check was conducted, but the gun was handed over.

The gun show "loophole" crap is just that. Crap.

Now I wouldn't mind have the requirement of a background check for private purchases as long as the following conditions are met.

1) Zero gun registration. The criminal check is only limited to criminal information about the potential buyer.

2) The check is absolutely free and available to everyone to use for any endeavor.

3) Private information about the person asking for the check is not recorded.

4) Information about the potential buyer is not recorded if there is no criminal history associated with the person.



Basically it needs to be setup as a 1-800 hotline number. I can call in and ask if person X, Y, Z has a criminal history. I present my credentials of who I am to make the legal request. The buyer gives their approval over the phone. The only answer that comes back is "Yes" for a criminal history or "No" for obvious reasons.

If setup that way I would certainly use it.

 

[HumblePie]

As to the OP's question. I'm waiting out the current prices on ammo. I am set on ammo for now and have stopped shooting as much I was previously. The costs will go down once the demand drops.

 

[corwin]

Basically it needs to be setup as a 1-800 hotline number. I can call in and ask if person X, Y, Z has a criminal history. I present my credentials of who I am to make the legal request. The buyer gives their approval over the phone. The only answer that comes back is "Yes" for a criminal history or "No" for obvious reasons.

If setup that way I would certainly use it.

So would I...though currently I just restrict any personal sales to CCW holders which is better than a background check, yes it limits my market but I really don't sell guns very often anyway

As to the OP's question. I'm waiting out the current prices on ammo. I am set on ammo for now and have stopped shooting as much I was previously. The costs will go down once the demand drops.

I think 99% of the market is back to normal prices already, Wally never raised their prices and my local stores have almost everything in stock every day of the week, still a 3 box a day limit but considering you can go back day after day and keep getting more makes it pretty moot

 

[HumblePie]

So would I...though currently I just restrict any personal sales to CCW holders which is better than a background check, yes it limits my market but I really don't sell guns very often anyway

I think 99% of the market is back to normal prices already, Wally never raised their prices and my local stores have almost everything in stock every day of the week, still a 3 box a day limit but considering you can go back day after day and keep getting more makes it pretty moot

Ohhh Wallywolrd certainly raised prices. Not a whole lot, but they are up. It was $7-8 a box for the cheap 5.56 ammo before December last year. Now it's $9-10 a box. Not a huge increase, but still an increase.