When will 2011 Lexus RX come out?

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ElFenix

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2011 will probably be out august/sept timeframe.

i'd rather have an ES though. less expensive, lighter, faster, should handle slightly better, better mileage, basically the same passenger room. women gotta have that extra foot of height so they can see on the highway though.
 

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2011 will probably be out august/sept timeframe.

i'd rather have an ES though. less expensive, lighter, faster, should handle slightly better, better mileage, basically the same passenger room. women gotta have that extra foot of height so they can see on the highway though.

The lower the better here...

I hated the Kia Forte I drove as a rental for a week - it felt like an SUV.
 

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Because you guys are going to mashing the pedal the entire time in a 7 passenger SUV. 1-2 seconds isnt a big deal, plus the Q7 is a lot bigger anyway, I see them side to side the whole time anyway. The T-reg platform (Q7 is a stretched version of this) is pretty bulky from the get go cause its pretty beefed up for off roading. The 2011 based platform is like 600 lbs lighter
 

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Because you guys are going to mashing the pedal the entire time in a 7 passenger SUV. 1-2 seconds isnt a big deal, plus the Q7 is a lot bigger anyway, I see them side to side the whole time anyway. The T-reg platform (Q7 is a stretched version of this) is pretty bulky from the get go cause its pretty beefed up for off roading. The 2011 based platform is like 600 lbs lighter

Right...let's focus on what these vehicles really do best which is hauling a couple hundred pounds of children to and from daycare/school every day. After all, this is where that road holding ability and driver feedback will really pay off. I guess the true driving enthusiast soccer mom will really appreciate that extra $10,000 the Audi costs over the Lexus...or at least her children will.
 

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Right...let's focus on what these vehicles really do best which is hauling a couple hundred pounds of children to and from daycare/school every day. After all, this is where that road holding ability and driver feedback will really pay off. I guess the true driving enthusiast soccer mom will really appreciate that extra $10,000 the Audi costs over the Lexus...or at least her children will.

and they're really not any better at that primary mission than an ES. i've been cramped as hell in the back of an RX. unless for whatever reason you can't bend down to do the child seat i really don't see the point of it, except to make women feel better about themselves.
 

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and they're really not any better at that primary mission than an ES. i've been cramped as hell in the back of an RX. unless for whatever reason you can't bend down to do the child seat i really don't see the point of it, except to make women feel better about themselves.

I haven't ridden in the back of an RX. It looks pretty roomy back there though, much more roomy than my wife's IS250 which I have ridden in the back of and never felt cramped in. I can't imagine being cramped in the RX by any means though but I'm only 5'11" and under 190lbs.

It is definitely a chick vehicle though...as is pretty much any mommy wagon suv.

BTW-I've liked the Lexus ES sedans I've driven too.
 

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I like the Audi commercial where everyone is driving a silver RX and theres one parent with a black Q5
 

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I haven't ridden in the back of an RX. It looks pretty roomy back there though, much more roomy than my wife's IS250 which I have ridden in the back of and never felt cramped in. I can't imagine being cramped in the RX by any means though but I'm only 5'11" and under 190lbs.

It is definitely a chick vehicle though...as is pretty much any mommy wagon suv.

BTW-I've liked the Lexus ES sedans I've driven too.

the is250 has about the smallest backseat on the planet. maybe you're riding behind short people. my mazda3 has gobs more legroom and i can barely ride back there.
 

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Why are you guys arguing over the Rx vs. Q7? The Q7 isn't even in the same category as the RX, and costs over 10k more for a base model.

The Q5 competes with the RX.
 

JulesMaximus

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the is250 has about the smallest backseat on the planet. maybe you're riding behind short people. my mazda3 has gobs more legroom and i can barely ride back there.

Yeah, if I was driving I couldn't fit behind me in her car. She's only 5'4" though so I can fit comfortably behind her seat when she's driving.
 

JulesMaximus

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and they're really not any better at that primary mission than an ES. i've been cramped as hell in the back of an RX. unless for whatever reason you can't bend down to do the child seat i really don't see the point of it, except to make women feel better about themselves.

Okay, I rode in the back of our loaner RX350 last night and that thing had tons of room back there! The rear seats even recline allowing you to stretch out even more. This thing is very comfortable. Even with the front seat back as far as it would go there is still plenty of room back there to fit a regular size adult. Unless you are 6'7" and 300lbs I can't see how anyone could feel cramped in the back of an RX.
 

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ooh I'm late to the argument... Lexus - soft rides if that's what you like. It is not as "capable" in the performance/handling dept as many others listed here... no shot. Sure it may be driven by mommies but you can't say it's "just as capable" because it simply isn't. The RX is very much a higher-end kids/grocery SUV for mom. If that's what you meant by capable, I don't know why you even bothered.

People prefer SUVs because they are more all-in-ones (unless you still have the hater mentality that people get one just because their neighbor has one). The point is that you can do better than an RX if you want more of the "all". Even the MDX is better. I auto-crossed a Q5 and that thing was also "capable" in more ways than one.
 
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Since this thread has been completely derailed from the intended question and has turned into a "you should buy this instead"...have you checked out the new Cadillac SRX? It is getting very good reviews in the 2.8L turbocharged guise. I have not driven one, but I have sat in one and in my opinion the interior trumps the RX big time. I can't say much about the driving experience as I have not driven one, but every review I've read of the 2.8L variant has been glowing. Just a thought...probably worth a test drive.
 

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ooh I'm late to the argument... Lexus - soft rides if that's what you like. It is not as "capable" in the performance/handling dept as many others listed here... no shot. Sure it may be driven by mommies but you can't say it's "just as capable" because it simply isn't. The RX is very much a higher-end kids/grocery SUV for mom. If that's what you meant by capable, I don't know why you even bothered.

People tend to buy SUVs because they are more all-in-ones (unless you still have the hater mentality that people get one just because their neighbor has one). The point is that you can do better than an RX if you want more of the "all". Even the MDX is better.

Doesn't this pretty much define all SUVs? Do you take your SUV off-roading? You've posted videos of you driving it around a parking lot with 3" of snow on the ground...maybe that's what you meant by capable?

The RX's back seats fold down flat just like other SUVs so you can haul stuff, it rides firmly, accelerates briskly, brakes well, handles well, has a roof rack, and it gets horrible mileage just like other SUVs.

I've already proven that the RX out accelerates the Audi SUV the OP was comparing this one to. Checking Edmunds.com the top of the line X5 with the V8 engine barely out accelerates the V6 powered RX in a 0-60 dash. I have driven both the X5 and the RX, the X5 looks better and in the handling department the BMW is a bit sportier but other than that and the dinky 3rd row seat in the BMW there isn't a whole lot of difference...well, except the price.
 
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Doesn't this pretty much define all SUVs? Do you take your SUV off-roading? You've posted videos of you driving it around a parking lot with 3" of snow on the ground...maybe that's what you meant by capable?

The RX's back seats fold down flat just like other SUVs so you can haul stuff, it rides firmly, accelerates briskly, brakes well, handles well, has a roof rack, and it gets horrible mileage just like other SUVs.

I've already proven that the RX out accelerates the Audi SUV the OP was comparing this one to. Checking Edmunds.com the top of the line X5 with the V8 engine barely out accelerates the V6 powered RX in a 0-60 dash. I have driven both the X5 and the RX, the X5 looks better and in the handling department the BMW is a bit sportier but other than that and the dinky 3rd row seat in the BMW there isn't a whole lot of difference...well, except the price.

No, it doesn't.

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This will outhandle and outaccelerate 99% of the cars out there.

0-60 in 5 seconds.
Lateral grip over .9g.

And it does not get groceries unless it has to.
 
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JulesMaximus

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No, it doesn't.

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This will outhandle and outaccelerate 99% of the cars out there.

And it does not get groceries unless it has to.

Dude, I've gotten groceries in a Lotus Elise...and on a motorcycle for that matter.

BTW-The X6 with the V8 engine starts at $67,000.
 
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Doesn't this pretty much define all SUVs? Do you take your SUV off-roading? You've posted videos of you driving it around a parking lot with 3" of snow on the ground...maybe that's what you meant by capable?

The RX's back seats fold down flat just like other SUVs so you can haul stuff, it rides firmly, accelerates briskly, brakes well, handles well, has a roof rack, and it gets horrible mileage just like other SUVs.

I've already proven that the RX out accelerates the Audi SUV the OP was comparing this one to. Checking Edmunds.com the top of the line X5 with the V8 engine barely out accelerates the V6 powered RX in a 0-60 dash. I have driven both the X5 and the RX, the X5 looks better and in the handling department the BMW is a bit sportier but other than that and the dinky 3rd row seat in the BMW there isn't a whole lot of difference...well, except the price.

I don't know if I want to enter this SUV "conversation" at all...but I have a funny anecdotal story from when I was back in South Carolina on vacation last week. Instead of driving my wife's car or my truck, we took the company ML350. While we were in SC, we went to my parents mtn "cabin". On the way there, it ended up raining really, really hard (Florida hard). While at the cabin, we needed to get to some remote spots on the property that I usually would only take my truck to...especially with the ground as wet as it was. The ML350 did surprisingly well. In retrospect I should have taken some pics if only to post in this thread...but I just didn't have my ATOT hat on when I was doing it. :) Rolling back into town, that is probably the dirtiest an ML350 has ever been since it was "tested" by Mercedes engineers.
 

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Dude, I've gotten groceries in a Lotus Elise...and on a motorcycle for that matter.

BTW-The X6 with the V8 engine starts at $67,000.

You get my point- body styles and vehicles do not necessarily define their function. An Elise can be a grocery getter, a sedan (people lugger) can be for grocery getting or track, an SUV can be for off-road or track, a truck like the RAM SRT-10s can be driven around without ever loading a dirty thing in the bed.

Some people buy an Audi or BMW SUV so they don't have a Lexus that can only drive around picking up the kids or groceries.
 

rh71

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Doesn't this pretty much define all SUVs? Do you take your SUV off-roading? You've posted videos of you driving it around a parking lot with 3" of snow on the ground...maybe that's what you meant by capable?

The RX's back seats fold down flat just like other SUVs so you can haul stuff, it rides firmly, accelerates briskly, brakes well, handles well, has a roof rack, and it gets horrible mileage just like other SUVs.

I've already proven that the RX out accelerates the Audi SUV the OP was comparing this one to. Checking Edmunds.com the top of the line X5 with the V8 engine barely out accelerates the V6 powered RX in a 0-60 dash. I have driven both the X5 and the RX, the X5 looks better and in the handling department the BMW is a bit sportier but other than that and the dinky 3rd row seat in the BMW there isn't a whole lot of difference...well, except the price.

- Define all SUVs? No, you're generalizing again. Plenty of people drive 350hp SUVs full time because it can do all they'd ever need. It just so happens that more people buy SUVs for family use. Think about what you're saying. It does not mean that an SUV just has to be a good grocery-getter for mom. BTW, RX is generally known as a chick's car.

- The X vehicles can do very well off-road thank you: http://www.topgear.com/uk/photos/wild-things-are?imageNo=0 ... (they focused on the technical stuff in this article rather than the entertainment side on tv where they used summer performance tires in snow a couple weeks ago - yay top gear). About my video - it was stated in my thread before and within the video that it was for testing my new all-season 20" 315width tires and whether I'd need to go to winters instead. But go ahead, say it a 3rd time in the next thread so I can say this a 4th.

- Your ambiguous "handles well" statement is just about contradicted every time someone has come from an RX. Not only on this forum but from others where people have actually bought and driven daily a few SUVs in their time.

I would say a whole lot of other good things about Lexus but it's sad that I'd have to just to make it seem like I'm not partial to any brand. The truth is I'm partial to the models that I've experienced positively. If you don't mind a floaty-feeling SUV a-la-minivan, then the RX is for you. If you want to hear from a Lexus apologist, talk to Jules.
 
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JulesMaximus

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- Define all SUVs? No, you're generalizing again. Plenty of people drive 350hp SUVs full time because it can do all they'd ever need. It just so happens that more people buy SUVs for family use. Think about what you're saying. It does not mean that an SUV just has to be a good grocery-getter for mom. BTW, RX is generally known as a chick's car.

- The X vehicles can do very well off-road thank you: http://www.topgear.com/uk/photos/wild-things-are?imageNo=0 ... (they focused on the technical stuff in this article rather than the entertainment side on tv where they used summer performance tires in snow a couple weeks ago - yay top gear). About my video - it was stated in my thread before and within the video that it was for testing my new all-season 20" 315width tires and whether I'd need to go to winters instead. But go ahead, say it a 3rd time in the next thread so I can say this a 4th.

- Your ambiguous "handles well" statement is just about contradicted every time someone has come from an RX. Not only on this forum but from others where people have actually bought and driven daily a few SUVs in their time.

I would say a whole lot of other good things about Lexus but it's sad that I'd have to just to make it seem like I'm not partial to any brand. The truth is I'm partial to the models that I've experienced positively. If you don't mind a floaty-feeling SUV a-la-minivan, then the RX is for you. If you want to hear from a Lexus apologist, talk to Jules.

Well, they have to justify that extra $10,000 somehow right? :D

Hey, I like the X5. I've never said anything negative about it, but I have driven both (although, I haven't driven an X5 recently) and I happen to think the RX is a pretty good vehicle for the money and the things people here are blasting it for seem like they'd be non-issues for what most people actually do with an SUV. Yeah, if off-roading is something you're going to be doing a lot of I wouldn't recommend the RX. Honestly, if I were doing serious off-road driving I probably wouldn't choose an X5 for that task either though.
 

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Okay, I rode in the back of our loaner RX350 last night and that thing had tons of room back there! The rear seats even recline allowing you to stretch out even more. This thing is very comfortable. Even with the front seat back as far as it would go there is still plenty of room back there to fit a regular size adult. Unless you are 6'7" and 300lbs I can't see how anyone could feel cramped in the back of an RX.

they must have changed it from the last one.



No, it doesn't.

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This will outhandle and outaccelerate 99% of the cars out there.

0-60 in 5 seconds.
Lateral grip over .9g.

And it does not get groceries unless it has to.

it's also the least manly vehicle on the planet.
 

rh71

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Well, they have to justify that extra $10,000 somehow right? :D

Sort of along the same lines of a Lexus owner having to justify their Toyota purchase? It comes from somewhere and it's never "just a badge".