When Trump loses, and calls for violence...

[APU_Fusion]

The righties huff and puff but other than Jan 6 they don’t do shit. I think now the patience with them is wearing out though. They get violent I have feeling in most cases there will be a violent response. They are such willfully ignorant morons though. Trump wins and election is great and Trump loses the election is rigged is such an infantile thought process. If the election were rigged and you believe Harris would stop all future elections (classic projections) why in the hell would Biden have this election. 🤷‍♂️

 

[trenchfoot]

yeah, that kind of thing is why my wife doesn't want yard signs, and I won't put bumper stickers on my car.

I'd be careful discussing politics with maga zealots. A lot of these people are literally frothing crazy, and even the fat old ones can carry guns, or take note of where you live. It's not like anything productive can possibly come from any discussion with them. My experience in maga-land has taught me that much. Not a one of them wants a reasonable discussion. They want a clay pigeon they can vent their Fox-induced spleen on. Just stay neutral and far away from them. I do this at all my gigs, our audiences are mostly uneducated white older magas. The ones I talk to (regulars) are nice to me, but they have no clue about my politics and I wouldn't tell them if they asked.

I'm on FB for one thing, my neighborhood's page--it's useful and mostly stays completely away from politics. I'm still careful what I post there, and come to think of it my current avatar would get me marked by a couple of the Trump weirdos here...gonna change it before I post there again, which is rare anyway. One has been flying a black-covered upside down flag since 2020, and has an 8 foot Trump banner in his garage (which he leaves open of course). Fricking loon, and to complete the stereotype he's always out practicing kick boxing and mma in his driveway. Glad he's way around the block.

Good advice. I had similar experiences talking with Trump supporters. It all ends in the same way with a verbal shove that went like "well I don't have to explain myself any further, K?". This happens the moment the truth and facts about Trump gets them cornered and they've used up all of the clever memes and witty escape clauses that FOX arms them with. I'm pretty sure most of these folks also get frustrated when they're trying to avoid having to divulge the real reasons they're backing Trump's play for the White House. That's the moment I back off and try to change the subject if they're still willing to chat on friendly terms.

It seems to me the biggest problem Trumpies have to deal with is they are tasked with defending the indefensible actions of a self-incriminating moron who thinks he can get away with any crime he commits and any lie he tells by simply hiding behind his attorney's chargeable delaying tactics.

 

[Moonbeam]

Many political commenters I have listened to on various media claim not to be too worried about a Trump win because they are convinced he won't win and that most of his followers will fade away. Many, like myself, feel that even the Republican party has finished itself off like so many who put their trust in him because they had no idea what the character of a narcissistic sociopath is really like.

From Britanica:

Faustian bargain, a pact whereby a person trades something of supreme moral or spiritual importance, such as personal values or the soul, for some worldly or material benefit, such as knowledge, power, or riches. The term refers to the legend of Faust (or Faustus, or Doctor Faustus), a character in German folklore and literature, who agrees to surrender his soul to an evil spirit (in some treatments, Mephistopheles, or Mephisto, a representative of Satan) after a certain period of time in exchange for otherwise unattainable knowledge and magical powers that give him access to all the world’s pleasures. A Faustian bargain is made with a power that the bargainer recognizes as evil or amoral. Faustian bargains are by their nature tragic or self-defeating for the person who makes them, because what is surrendered is ultimately far more valuable than what is obtained, whether or not the bargainer appreciates that fact.

Spiritual ignorance is not appreciating that fact. Who knew? It's so anti American to have moral character.

 

[fskimospy]

Many political commenters I have listened to on various media claim not to be too worried about a Trump win because they are convinced he won't win and that most of his followers will fade away. Many, like myself, feel that even the Republican party has finished itself off like so many who put their trust in him because they had no idea what the character of a narcissistic sociopath is really like.

From Britanica:

Faustian bargain, a pact whereby a person trades something of supreme moral or spiritual importance, such as personal values or the soul, for some worldly or material benefit, such as knowledge, power, or riches. The term refers to the legend of Faust (or Faustus, or Doctor Faustus), a character in German folklore and literature, who agrees to surrender his soul to an evil spirit (in some treatments, Mephistopheles, or Mephisto, a representative of Satan) after a certain period of time in exchange for otherwise unattainable knowledge and magical powers that give him access to all the world’s pleasures. A Faustian bargain is made with a power that the bargainer recognizes as evil or amoral. Faustian bargains are by their nature tragic or self-defeating for the person who makes them, because what is surrendered is ultimately far more valuable than what is obtained, whether or not the bargainer appreciates that fact.

I agree with the idea that after Trump his movement lacks another figure to rally around. Maybe they find one, but so far all attempts have failed.

While I am confident he will lose my primary concern is the 2.5 months following the election. Trump knows he is facing prison if he loses so what isn’t he willing to do?

 

[Indus]

I agree with the idea that after Trump his movement lacks another figure to rally around. Maybe they find one, but so far all attempts have failed.

While I am confident he will lose my primary concern is the 2.5 months following the election. Trump knows he is facing prison if he loses so what isn’t he willing to do?

I do worry about the MAGAts.. because a lot of them seem 2016 was the norm rather than the exception and 2020 was stolen from them. Also they can go do 2016 on steroids everytime as that's what people really want.

Interesting to see if that really is the case or Hillary was just a terrible candidate and her failure setup everything for America to go towards a fascist tangent.

 

[Moonbeam]

I do worry about the MAGAts.. because a lot of them seem 2016 was the norm rather than the exception and 2020 was stolen from them. Also they can go do 2016 on steroids everytime as that's what people really want.

Interesting to see if that really is the case or Hillary was just a terrible candidate and her failure setup everything for America to go towards a fascist tangent.

The problem I see is that years and years of bad conditions for the American people augmented by constant reminders of how fucked one is and how it's the fault of Democrats as gifted to us by the authoritarian right wing propaganda machine in service of wealth power and political gain created the view of Hillary as Hildabeast.

She would have been far far better than Trump despite being just another business center favorable Democrat. She is no more responsible for her own ignorance than anybody else. The machine spits us out preprogrammed.

 

[Moonbeam]

I agree with the idea that after Trump his movement lacks another figure to rally around. Maybe they find one, but so far all attempts have failed.

While I am confident he will lose my primary concern is the 2.5 months following the election. Trump knows he is facing prison if he loses so what isn’t he willing to do?

I do not know, of course, what will happen but I lean toward bellyaching and not too much more. Swift action against the first to act out would go a long way to curb escalation in my opinion. Remember, conservatives are magnetized by fear. Cats puff themselves up when threatened but will run if not cornered if the contest isn't about who gets the female. I hope I get to see how a Trump loss will unfold. The blood of tyrants and all that......

 

[MtnMan]

yeah, that kind of thing is why my wife doesn't want yard signs, and I won't put bumper stickers on my car.

I'd be careful discussing politics with maga zealots. A lot of these people are literally frothing crazy, and even the fat old ones can carry guns, or take note of where you live. It's not like anything productive can possibly come from any discussion with them. My experience in maga-land has taught me that much. Not a one of them wants a reasonable discussion. They want a clay pigeon they can vent their Fox-induced spleen on. Just stay neutral and far away from them. I do this at all my gigs, our audiences are mostly uneducated white older magas. The ones I talk to (regulars) are nice to me, but they have no clue about my politics and I wouldn't tell them if they asked.

I'm on FB for one thing, my neighborhood's page--it's useful and mostly stays completely away from politics. I'm still careful what I post there, and come to think of it my current avatar would get me marked by a couple of the Trump weirdos here...gonna change it before I post there again, which is rare anyway. One has been flying a black-covered upside down flag since 2020, and has an 8 foot Trump banner in his garage (which he leaves open of course). Fricking loon, and to complete the stereotype he's always out practicing kick boxing and mma in his driveway. Glad he's way around the block.

No bumper stickers, yard signs, etc., for us either, for the same reasons. Now I even wonder if the one thing on the back of my car could draw the ire of this sick cult. It says "I love my rescue" on a dog bone shaped magnetic sticker. They (MAGAits) seem fine with elected republicans that take puppies to the gravel pit.

Some of these cowards might also be shocked that I also carry (concealed and legally) a firearm, solely for self-protection. Between Helene absolutely devastating my city, and the current political tension everywhere, I now carry every time we go somewhere.

I'm on FB under a pseudo name. At one point, FB didn't like that and demanded I send a copy of a photo ID to them to prove it was my name. I told them to kick rocks. Years later, desperate for users, FB reactivated my account. I am in groups related to the ship I served on, and other aspects of my time in the Navy.

My neighborhood is not like what you think of as a 'Leave it to Beaver' hood. Being on the side of a mountain, steep roads, steep yards, heavily wooded, it is typical to only interact with them when I'm out walking my dog. I am more likely to see a sign to support LGBTQ or BLM than a politician as I drive around.

 

[MtnMan]

How many belong to and follow the ideology of the Oath Keepers, III%'ers, Boogaloo Bois, Patriot Front, Atomwaffen Division, the KKK, and likely many other such cults or militia?

Even if these groups represent only 1% of people in this country, and only 1% of those are fanatic enough to actually start civil unrest and shooting, that number will be in the 10s of thousands.

How many MAGAits not affiliated with these sub-cult are stupid enough to join in?

I'm not a prepper, but if anything, Helene taught me a valuable lesson. Have enough shit on hand that if you can't get out, or it is unsafe, for several weeks. Hell, maybe even longer, as 35 days after Helene hit my area, we still cannot drink the water coming out of the tap. Cars will be filled up, and fuel for generator already on hand, along with water, and making a grocery list to lay in before 11/5.

Trump will stop at nothing to regain power! If you have a different perspective, please explain how naive you actually are.

 

[sdifox]

He's such a fucking dolt! I bet he couldn't pass the citizenship test.

When the immigration judge asked me to name the provinces from left to right I froze, then asked him if he meant his left or my left.

 

[IronWing]

When the immigration judge asked me to name the provinces from left to right I froze, then asked him if he meant his left or my left.

Good thinking.

 

[Moonbeam]

When the immigration judge asked me to name the provinces from left to right I froze, then asked him if he meant his left or my left.

I know freezing fears. I'm locked in the closet right now from the inside fearing a knock of the door because today is samhainophobia day and the monsters are out in force, but there's one Provence and it's in France. You can go to the right or left to get there. Air Canada will get you there.

 

[Moonbeam]

I know freezing fears. I'm locked in the closet right now from the inside fearing a knock of the door because today is samhainophobia day and the monsters are out in force, but there's one Provence and it's in France. You can go to the right or left to get there. Air Canada will work.

PS: In the old days on this forum we used to talk about Canada's tank. I lways wanted to see it after that.