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When talking protein, how come no one ever mentions eggs?

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Originally posted by: Riprorin
Eggs are one of the best protein sources there is:

Eggs and Protein
A combination of amino acids, some of which are called essential because the human body needs them but can't synthesize them. The human diet must regularly supply protein which contains all of the essential amino acids. The egg boasts them all: histidine, isoleucine, leucine, lysine, methionine, phenylalanine, threonine, tryptoOphan and valine. They are present in a pattern that matches very closely the pattern the body need, so the egg is often the measuring stick by which other protein foods are measured.

In addition to the 9 essential amino acids, there are 9 other amino acids in an egg. Altogether, each Large egg provides a total of 6.25 grams of high-quality, complete protein. For this reason, the egg is classified with meat in the food categories. One egg = 1 ounce of lean meat, fish or poultry. A Large egg provides 10 to 13% of the Daily Reference Value for protein and varying amounts of many other nutrients.

Contrary to popular belief, they are really good for you. Studies have shown that they increase HDL (good cholesterol).
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You can white wash this any way you want but I aint eating anything that comes out of a chickens ass!

 
Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
Because one egg yolk contains close to one day's worth of cholesterol. And that egg yolk contains slightly less than half (or around) of the protein content of the egg. I think a whole egg is worth about 6gm of protein, so each egg white that people eat is 3gm. It's pretty hard getting a good source of protein from just eggs. One tiny can of tuna contains 33gm of protein - so b/t eggs and tuna, I pick tuna.
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And your concerned about the cholesterol because?
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Well why not? I know of these "studies" you speak of concerning eggs and cholesterol - if you bothered to read the fine print, it says eating them in moderation is ok - meaning 1-2 a day, and your family can't have a history of heart disease or high cholesterol, and is not recommended if your cholesterol is above normal levels. 1-2 a day is about 12gm of protein.
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The fact of the matter is that there's very little connection between the cholesterol you eat and the cholesterol in your blood.
 
Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
Because one egg yolk contains close to one day's worth of cholesterol. And that egg yolk contains slightly less than half (or around) of the protein content of the egg. I think a whole egg is worth about 6gm of protein, so each egg white that people eat is 3gm. It's pretty hard getting a good source of protein from just eggs. One tiny can of tuna contains 33gm of protein - so b/t eggs and tuna, I pick tuna.
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And your concerned about the cholesterol because?
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Well why not? I know of these "studies" you speak of concerning eggs and cholesterol - if you bothered to read the fine print, it says eating them in moderation is ok - meaning 1-2 a day, and your family can't have a history of heart disease or high cholesterol, and is not recommended if your cholesterol is above normal levels. 1-2 a day is about 12gm of protein.
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The fact of the matter is that there's very little connection between the cholesterol you eat and the cholesterol in your blood.
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Yes, blood cholesterol is mostly based off the amount of saturated fat you take in, but dietary cholesterol does have an impact on your blood cholesterol, just less than saturated fat. To say there is little connection is wrong.
 
Eggs are a damn good source of protein, IF you eat a lot of them. 🙂

For one meal I eat 2 egg whites + 2 whole eggs....PLUS a glass of milk. Along with carbs and a small amount of other fats.

But througout the day I also eat tuna, chicken, turkey, beef.....protein shakes.......gotta keep that protein level high!
 
Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
Because one egg yolk contains close to one day's worth of cholesterol. And that egg yolk contains slightly less than half (or around) of the protein content of the egg. I think a whole egg is worth about 6gm of protein, so each egg white that people eat is 3gm. It's pretty hard getting a good source of protein from just eggs. One tiny can of tuna contains 33gm of protein - so b/t eggs and tuna, I pick tuna.
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And your concerned about the cholesterol because?
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Well why not? I know of these "studies" you speak of concerning eggs and cholesterol - if you bothered to read the fine print, it says eating them in moderation is ok - meaning 1-2 a day, and your family can't have a history of heart disease or high cholesterol, and is not recommended if your cholesterol is above normal levels. 1-2 a day is about 12gm of protein.
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The fact of the matter is that there's very little connection between the cholesterol you eat and the cholesterol in your blood.
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Yes, blood cholesterol is mostly based off the amount of saturated fat you take in, but dietary cholesterol does have an impact on your blood cholesterol, just less than saturated fat. To say there is little connection is wrong.
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There is a lot of misinformation about saturated fat too.

Here's a good series of articles:

The Truth about Saturated Fat
 
Originally posted by: Riprorin

There is a lot of misinformation about saturated fat too.

Here's a good series of articles:

The Truth about Saturated Fat
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As much as I respect and like debating with you, the source of that article rules it out as an actual basis for fact. A simple look around his site shows propganda for his diet. That's like instantly believing in the whole Atkins craze, which I for one don't care for. Reading the page 2 section on cholesterol - he basically reverses everything that's been found about cholesterol and leading to heart disease. I give this guy as much credibility as I do the guy who claimed the moon landing was a farce.

http://www.mercola.com/forms/total_health_book.htm

Read the quick highlights out of his book - all of those are a sham to play on people's paranoia. Are you seriously tellling me you believe in the crap that spews out of this guy's mouth?
 
Eggs are one of my favorite foods.

Originally posted by: Riprorin

There is a lot of misinformation about saturated fat too.

Here's a good series of articles:

The Truth about Saturated Fat
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I've read this exact article before. It's a good read even knowing the source it comes from.

It's still called a hypothesis though.
 
I don't know that much about the properties of eggs, but if what OP says is true (about the egg having all the essential amino acids), why not just go with 1-2 eggs a day and whatever form of protein you want? The essential AAs are needed to metabolize everything else you eat, anyway..

just my thoughts.
 
the only way to get 1.5 x your body weight of protein a day is either to eat 4 truckloads of chicken orrrrrrr









suppliments.
 
Can't stand the smell of tuna.
When I had eggs for breakfast every day for awhile I started getting arthritis-like symptoms from it. (Allergic to literally almost everything, eggs & chicken got the biggest reactions back when they did testing...)

What does this leave as the "next best thing"? Peanuts?

BTW, tryptophan in the list of proteins provided hardly sounds like a good thing.... you know the pill form of that was banned by the FDA a long time ago, right?
 
Originally posted by: glugglug
Can't stand the smell of tuna.
When I had eggs for breakfast every day for awhile I started getting arthritis-like symptoms from it. (Allergic to literally almost everything, eggs & chicken got the biggest reactions back when they did testing...)

What does this leave as the "next best thing"? Peanuts?

BTW, tryptophan in the list of proteins provided hardly sounds like a good thing.... you know the pill form of that was banned by the FDA a long time ago, right?
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http://home.howstuffworks.com/question519.htm

The FDA said contaminated supplements caused the outbreak. Like the link says, it's also in turkey. It's hardly negative on it's own.
 
Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
Originally posted by: Riprorin

There is a lot of misinformation about saturated fat too.

Here's a good series of articles:

The Truth about Saturated Fat
Click to expand...

As much as I respect and like debating with you, the source of that article rules it out as an actual basis for fact. A simple look around his site shows propganda for his diet. That's like instantly believing in the whole Atkins craze, which I for one don't care for. Reading the page 2 section on cholesterol - he basically reverses everything that's been found about cholesterol and leading to heart disease. I give this guy as much credibility as I do the guy who claimed the moon landing was a farce.

http://www.mercola.com/forms/total_health_book.htm

Read the quick highlights out of his book - all of those are a sham to play on people's paranoia. Are you seriously tellling me you believe in the crap that spews out of this guy's mouth?
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I give it some credibility based on my own personal experience.

By eliminating refined carbs (sugar, sweets, and white flour) and increasing fats (including saturated fats) my cholesterol improved considerably. Based on my lipid profile, I see no reason why I should I reduce saturated fats in my diet from meat, nuts, and dairy products.

The article was actually written by Mary Enig. I've read others articles she's written and they appear pretty reputable.

 
People do mention eggs. It's just that in order to get a good amount of protein you need like 8 eggs white per meal. Whites have around 3-4gm of protein. The yolk has a lot of cholestorel which is moderation is fine, but I doubt any nutritionist would recommend 8-16 WHOLE eggs a day, instead they'd say 16-24 whites plus 1-3 whole eggs. The point is it is hard to get enough protein from eggs, especially when I can put a scoop of powder into milk and get 30-35 gms in about 10 seconds.
 
Most mornings I eat:

8 egg whites
2 egg yolks
3/4 oatmeal
3 EFA pills


Put some salsa on those eggs and mmm, mmm, good.....
 
Back in the mid 80's when I was playing ball in high school, I use to snack on hardboiled eggs throughout the morning and afternoon. I would boil a dozen eggs the night before and take them to school with me. It nomally took my body about a week to adjust to the eggs so that I could ingest them without getting gassy - which is not a good thing.
 
The restaurant near my gym offers healthy food choices,one of which is the egg white sandwich.The place looks popular I'll have to stop there for lunch one day.
 
Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
Originally posted by: Riprorin

There is a lot of misinformation about saturated fat too.

Here's a good series of articles:

The Truth about Saturated Fat
Click to expand...

As much as I respect and like debating with you, the source of that article rules it out as an actual basis for fact. A simple look around his site shows propganda for his diet. That's like instantly believing in the whole Atkins craze, which I for one don't care for. Reading the page 2 section on cholesterol - he basically reverses everything that's been found about cholesterol and leading to heart disease. I give this guy as much credibility as I do the guy who claimed the moon landing was a farce.

http://www.mercola.com/forms/total_health_book.htm

Read the quick highlights out of his book - all of those are a sham to play on people's paranoia. Are you seriously tellling me you believe in the crap that spews out of this guy's mouth?
Click to expand...

I give it some credibility based on my own personal experience.

By eliminating refined carbs (sugar, sweets, and white flour) and increasing fats (including saturated fats) my cholesterol improved considerably. Based on my lipid profile, I see no reason why I should I reduce saturated fats in my diet from meat, nuts, and dairy products.

The article was actually written by Mary Enig. I've read others articles she's written and they appear pretty reputable.
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Well you're right in that I guess it's impossible to write off everything written in the article; however, I find it hard to take everything I've read in that article seriously, as it goes against everything I've read in the past and everything my doctor has told me. But in regards to eggs and protein disregarding the whole cholesterol issue - like I and quite a few other people have said, it's just hard getting a decent amount of protein from eggs without going overboard and eating a carton a day. Once or twice a week I'll have some with a protein shake in the mornings or with some oatmeal but despite the quality of the protein, it's just not a viable source of protein for weight training purposes.
 
I eat eggs somewhat regularly, or at least things with egg in them. Breakfast burritos are dynamite if you make them yourself... mmmm.
 
The Egg Whites are where the protein is, the yolk is 70% fat. The large eggs I get have 7 grams of protein per egg. There also pretty cheap way to get protein.

There is also egg powder, the container I have has 24 grams per serving, mixed with some milk boost it to 40 grams. Having 3 or 4 of these per day will definintly help put on the muscle.
 
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