When meat is no longer "born"

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meltdown75

Lifer
Nov 17, 2004
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Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
Would this make the PETA people shut up?

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that *some* group out there would find it unethical. Call it a crazy stab in the dark.
 

Schadenfroh

Elite Member
Mar 8, 2003
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Originally posted by: meltdown75
Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
Would this make the PETA people shut up?

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that *some* group out there would find it unethical. Call it a crazy stab in the dark.

Ethical to slice a living things neck and unethical to grow its tissue in the lab where it has no thoughts?
 

nakedfrog

No Lifer
Apr 3, 2001
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Originally posted by: Eli
I don't really like the idea of having to layer the thin sheets of meat together to increase thickness, though. As they say, it would only be suitable for products like chicken nuggets.

Why can't they grow bricks of meat instead of sheets, I wonder?

Imagine throwing a 2 x 1 x 1 foot slab of perfectly marbled steak onto a grill.... Boneless, of course...

I would imagine the thin sheets could substitute for ground beef.
 

Phoenix86

Lifer
May 21, 2003
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Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Originally posted by: Eli
I don't really like the idea of having to layer the thin sheets of meat together to increase thickness, though. As they say, it would only be suitable for products like chicken nuggets.

Why can't they grow bricks of meat instead of sheets, I wonder?

Imagine throwing a 2 x 1 x 1 foot slab of perfectly marbled steak onto a grill.... Boneless, of course...

I would imagine the thin sheets could substitute for ground beef.
Skirt steak!!!
 

NikPreviousAcct

No Lifer
Aug 15, 2000
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Awesome! Now we can grow hoards of food and sell it to other starving countries that are starving in the name of the all mighty dollar instead of helping the starving people in our own country!

Oh wait, that's what we're already doing *cough*G8*cough*. :frown:
 

cKGunslinger

Lifer
Nov 29, 1999
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Originally posted by: Eli
Originally posted by: Nimloth
interesting...

would vegeterians be allowed to eat this "meat" ??
No, of course not.

It's not fundamentally different from any other meat - there's just a different medium supporting cell growth.

What about people who are vegetarian for "ethical" reasons only? This meat is not from a "living" animal with feeling, emotions, etc.
 

ifoundthetao

Senior member
May 17, 2005
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If this becomes common place I could stop being a vegetarian because the threat of mad cow's disease would be gone!
 

NikPreviousAcct

No Lifer
Aug 15, 2000
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Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
Originally posted by: Eli
Originally posted by: Nimloth
interesting...

would vegeterians be allowed to eat this "meat" ??
No, of course not.

It's not fundamentally different from any other meat - there's just a different medium supporting cell growth.

What about people who are vegetarian for "ethical" reasons only? This meat is not from a "living" animal with feeling, emotions, etc.

:laugh: Animals do not have feelings and emotions. They only have primal instincts and very very basic learned reactions from stimuli.
 

dug777

Lifer
Oct 13, 2004
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Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
Originally posted by: Eli
Originally posted by: Nimloth
interesting...

would vegeterians be allowed to eat this "meat" ??
No, of course not.

It's not fundamentally different from any other meat - there's just a different medium supporting cell growth.

What about people who are vegetarian for "ethical" reasons only? This meat is not from a "living" animal with feeling, emotions, etc.

:laugh: Animals do not have feelings and emotions. They only have primal instincts and very very basic learned reactions from stimuli.

except cats, and dogs, and fish, and penguins ;)
 

NikPreviousAcct

No Lifer
Aug 15, 2000
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Originally posted by: dug777
Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
Originally posted by: Eli
Originally posted by: Nimloth
interesting...

would vegeterians be allowed to eat this "meat" ??
No, of course not.

It's not fundamentally different from any other meat - there's just a different medium supporting cell growth.

What about people who are vegetarian for "ethical" reasons only? This meat is not from a "living" animal with feeling, emotions, etc.

:laugh: Animals do not have feelings and emotions. They only have primal instincts and very very basic learned reactions from stimuli.

except cats, and dogs, and fish, and penguins ;)

"I'll take Link for the win, Tom!"
 

DivideBYZero

Lifer
May 18, 2001
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Originally posted by: Nik
Awesome! Now we can grow hoards of food and sell it to other starving countries that are starving in the name of the all mighty dollar instead of helping the starving people in our own country!

Oh wait, that's what we're already doing *cough*G8*cough*. :frown:

Tell me more about the starving millions in the United States.
 

BurnItDwn

Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
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Originally posted by: dug777
Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
Originally posted by: Eli
Originally posted by: Nimloth
interesting...

would vegeterians be allowed to eat this "meat" ??
No, of course not.

It's not fundamentally different from any other meat - there's just a different medium supporting cell growth.

What about people who are vegetarian for "ethical" reasons only? This meat is not from a "living" animal with feeling, emotions, etc.

:laugh: Animals do not have feelings and emotions. They only have primal instincts and very very basic learned reactions from stimuli.

except cats, and dogs, and fish, and penguins ;)


Definatly right about the penguin part.
 

Jassi

Diamond Member
Sep 8, 2004
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Originally posted by: BurnItDwn
Originally posted by: dug777
Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
Originally posted by: Eli
Originally posted by: Nimloth
interesting...

would vegeterians be allowed to eat this "meat" ??
No, of course not.

It's not fundamentally different from any other meat - there's just a different medium supporting cell growth.

What about people who are vegetarian for "ethical" reasons only? This meat is not from a "living" animal with feeling, emotions, etc.

:laugh: Animals do not have feelings and emotions. They only have primal instincts and very very basic learned reactions from stimuli.

except cats, and dogs, and fish, and penguins ;)


Definatly right about the penguin part.

You forgot Chimps, Monkeys, Dolphins (they are not fish), Birds (such as parrots) and many more creatures that we haven't studied in as much detail as the rest.

As for vegetarians, I am an ethical vegetarian but I will not touch this stuff with a 20ft pole. Its animal meat no matter how it is grown.
 

NikPreviousAcct

No Lifer
Aug 15, 2000
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Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Originally posted by: Nik
Awesome! Now we can grow hoards of food and sell it to other starving countries that are starving in the name of the all mighty dollar instead of helping the starving people in our own country!

Oh wait, that's what we're already doing *cough*G8*cough*. :frown:

Tell me more about the starving millions in the United States.

Take a look at the whole welfare system. Take a look outside for a second. Stop and take a good look at major cities and all the homeless people that the government pays out the nose for every year to support with homeless shelters and so forth.
 

Kadarin

Lifer
Nov 23, 2001
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Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: dug777
Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
Originally posted by: Eli
Originally posted by: Nimloth
interesting...

would vegeterians be allowed to eat this "meat" ??
No, of course not.

It's not fundamentally different from any other meat - there's just a different medium supporting cell growth.

What about people who are vegetarian for "ethical" reasons only? This meat is not from a "living" animal with feeling, emotions, etc.

:laugh: Animals do not have feelings and emotions. They only have primal instincts and very very basic learned reactions from stimuli.

except cats, and dogs, and fish, and penguins ;)

"I'll take Link for the win, Tom!"

The octopus is known to show emotion by changing color. Google "octopus emotion" if you want a link.
 

cKGunslinger

Lifer
Nov 29, 1999
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Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Originally posted by: Nik
Awesome! Now we can grow hoards of food and sell it to other starving countries that are starving in the name of the all mighty dollar instead of helping the starving people in our own country!

Oh wait, that's what we're already doing *cough*G8*cough*. :frown:

Tell me more about the starving millions in the United States.

"In 2001, the USDA reported that the number of Americans who were food insecure or hungry or at risk of hunger was 33.6 million. In the last year it is estimated that there has been an additional 5-10 million additional people who are now in jeopardy of hunger and starvation. The government has a benign description of this situation, calling the hungry and starving "Food Critical.?

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cKGunslinger

Lifer
Nov 29, 1999
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Originally posted by: Jassi

As for vegetarians, I am an ethical vegetarian but I will not touch this stuff with a 20ft pole. Its animal meat no matter how it is grown.

But that makes no sense. It's animal meat that does not come from a "living" thing. What is your 'ethical' reason for not wanting it? :confused:

 

Looney

Lifer
Jun 13, 2000
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Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
Originally posted by: Jassi

As for vegetarians, I am an ethical vegetarian but I will not touch this stuff with a 20ft pole. Its animal meat no matter how it is grown.

But that makes no sense. It's animal meat that does not come from a "living" thing. What is your 'ethical' reason for not wanting it? :confused:

Some vegetarians (vegans actually) don't eat any products from animals... including things like egss or milk.

Personally, i would eat this. I see this as no different than eating a veggie burger right now.
 

AdamSnow

Diamond Member
Nov 21, 2002
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Originally posted by: JoeKing
I just threw up a little in my mouth.

Meat should come from animals! So that each time we eat meat we eat a little bit of their souls.

mmmmmmm souls.....

hahaha :)