When Magical Thinking Turns Deadly

[hal2kilo]

This intra-party animosity, where those who back the losing candidate claim that voting was rigged against them, and where they convince themselves that their own party's candidate is as bad or worse than the most terrible candidate ever nominated on the other side, has to stop. Unless we want Trump and the GOP to rule for another 8 years, that is.

Amen!

 

[agent00f]

My entire point is that it's not medicine no matter what homeopathy brands itself as, even if it's a "remedy." If the maker of this crap suddenly started calling it an automobile rather than medicine would you then say the Department of Transportation should ban it? Each of these departments has statutory limits on their regulatory power for a reason and it's not because you think I'm "excessively ideological." If you want to push Congress to give the FDA the power to regulate homeopathy and other quackery just be aware that means they have less resources and money to devote to testing actual medicines. Thus instead of new cancer drugs taking 8 years to approve, now they'll take 15. How many more would die given the longer approvals for real medicines versus the 10 that died because they were idiots that believed in something like homeopathy which has less science behind it than flat-earthism?

I can see how that's a problem when your & colleagues want to cut down/out the FDA or any other regulator anyway.

 

[glenn1]

Is there any proof to the claim people die because drugs take too long to approve?

The issue with the lack of regulation for homeopathic stuff and supplements is they use weasel words to fool consumers into buying their stuff as an alternative to science based medicine. This alone leads to economic and medical harms to patients. Then, the lack of regulations covering the manufacturing of these products leads to problems like too much beladona in teething tablets for babies.

It sounds like you're conflating multiple issues, from false advertising to manufacturing quality. The FDA is actually requiring new disclaimers now (see below). And the very reason why homeopathic products aren't regulated is due to its manufacture, the stuff is so diluted that if prepared as intended it would be impossible for it to have an effect. Having the FDA regulate homeopathics is akin to having it regulate voodoo, you know the sh!t is bogus so why would you bother "regulating" it and wasting the time and resources?

http://www.slate.com/articles/healt...homeopathic_medicine_rules_will_backfire.html

 

[Indus]

I'm guessing your torn shoulder ligament wasn't a complete tear, in which case 2 months healing is about expected for a partial tear left untreated, especially for a young person like yourself. But now you've got a lot more scar tissue binding the torn edges together vs. what you'd have had from surgery, thereby leaving a weaker connection than if you'd have had surgery.

Question....a hypothetical. You've got pneumonia....you going to trust homeopathic treatment for that? Why not?

Do you drink the water in your city? Why? It's probably got lead in it...maybe up to 15 ppb (parts per billion.) If you believe in the concept of homeopathic "medicine", don't you quake in fear you're giving yourself lead poisoning, since that concentration of lead is probably higher than the concentration of the "active ingredient" found in most homeopathic "medicines?"

In truth I had bronchitis and no I got other meds from a local doctor. I don't believe in prayer medication either but I did research alternatives to surgery and that's where Homeopathy worked.

My general opinion is I prefer something that works, natural if possible, surgery if necessary, chemicals if I absolutely must.

From my research in homeopathy, it has to be naturally occuring to be diluted. And you can get more potent doses if needed and prescribed by the doctor.

P.S. I didn't ingest any homeopathic medicine. I just applied the oil on my shoulder. And I truly experimented.. tried a week with it and it got better. Then I tried a week without, no improvement, actually got worse and more painful. Then I stuck to the regimen for 2 months and it was fine and its been fine.

I can't attest if I'm stronger than before, but it feels like I'm back to normal. I just am more careful not blocking spikes in that manner which is why I had the tear in the first place.

 

[Indus]

Was it actual homeopathy or was it some kind of actual herb or other "all natural" medicine?

Homeopathic all-natural oil that I rubbed on the shoulder for 2 months.