when israel falls, we are going to have to do something, to gain control of the nukes

[zanejohnson]

this is what we need to start worrying about now, if you can't see israel falling now, your blind.

 

[Anarchist420]

Do you mean that you're worried about the samson option?

I don't think that the samson option is a possibility because enough Israelis will have left the State of Israel. If the Samson option is actually carried out, then it will murder Jews not in the State of Israel unless the State of Israel has it designed to target certain genotypes... I know that my genotype would be nearly annihilated.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

this is what we need to start worrying about now, if you can't see israel falling now, your blind.

Don't start celebrating just yet you self professed anti-semite.

There have been plenty of attacks over 65 years and Israel has won every single time despite being a lot weaker compared to their current state and Israel has never had fewer enemies than now.

Who exactly do you think is going to attack Israel and win? Hamas? Because that's the only entity that actually wants to invade Israel and they don't even have their itty bitty rockets anymore.

 

[zanejohnson]

i see it going something along the lines of, western intervention in syria, which then is met with stern words from russia, and then there will be a shitstorm, and before we know it china and russia will have armies mobilized... i could see this happening pretty quick actually..

 

[zanejohnson]

i have a feeling there is a whole lot more we dont know about syria, and this is why we still haven't intervened (openly)

 

[gevorg]

There have been plenty of attacks over 65 years and United States has won every single time

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[JohnOfSheffield]

i see it going something along the lines of, western intervention in syria, which then is met with stern words from russia, and then there will be a shitstorm, and before we know it china and russia will have armies mobilized... i could see this happening pretty quick actually..

Except that Russia has stated that IF Assad uses chemical munitions that is unacceptable.

And why the fuck would Russia or China attack Israel over NATO intervention in Syria?

Why not try to think before you type, i know it's hard for you but still....

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

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Except that it's not true at all.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

i have a feeling there is a whole lot more we dont know about syria, and this is why we still haven't intervened (openly)

We (as in western nations) have intervened openly, just not militarily. That would change if they engage Turkey but that is unlikely.

 

[zanejohnson]

Except that Russia has stated that IF Assad uses chemical munitions that is unacceptable.

And why the fuck would Russia or China attack Israel over NATO intervention in Syria?

Why not try to think before you type, i know it's hard for you but still....

it could be a number of reasons, chinese/russian interests are something we can't even speculate on because we simply do not know... this IS however an opportunistic window for them, that much is obvious.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

So who is going to look after our nukes when we fall in the next year? What about China? What about aliens?

Don't hold your breath.

 

[Nintendesert]

If Israel falls we won't have to worry about their nukes, they'll have used them all up.

 

[WhipperSnapper]

this is what we need to start worrying about now, if you can't see israel falling now, your blind.

If Israel falls, the nukes will have already long since been launched and exploded on their targets.

 

[JEDIYoda]

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You have no clue what you are doing or talking about!! Israel has never asked for or needed our help.
Even before we decided to accept Israel as an ally Israel did perfectly fine without us! They had no problems acquiring military items and wealthy Jews here in the United States donated vast amounts of their wealth to the defense of Irael.....

 

[Lemon law]

Silly me, I thought this thread was about Israel and not Syria.

But still Nato is moving their military assets right up to the Syrian border. And if Assad uses its chemical weapons against its own people or any of Syria's neighbors, there will be a devastating military response directed at Assad following within minutes. Even the Russians agree with Washington if Syria uses chemical weapons But still if Assad does not use its chemical weapons the Russians may still back Assad.

But still Assad's best option may be to seek asylum in some other nation. Because Assad can no longer hope to beat the Rebels without using Chemical weapons. As catch 22 Assad can't hope to prevail if he uses Chemical weapons.

In which case our OP will be also correct regarding Syria, simply because once Assad falls, it becomes imperative to prevent Syrian Chemical weapons from falling into terrorist hands.

At the same time our OP is correct on Israel, as Bozo Nertanyuhu is as nutty as Assad.

As a 6 million people nation tries to lecture a 6 billion people world. After Israel just got badly outvoted by the same 6 billion people world. But still Israel is in far better shape than Assad, because if Israel gets real and supports a Palestinian State, Israel can get a soft landing ad have peace with its neighbors too.

 

[yllus]

If Israel falls we won't have to worry about their nukes, they'll have used them all up.

It'd be a terrible day - but, frankly, that's what they're for.

 

[gevorg]

You have no clue what you are doing or talking about!! Israel has never asked for or needed our help.
Even before we decided to accept Israel as an ally Israel did perfectly fine without us! They had no problems acquiring military items and wealthy Jews here in the United States donated vast amounts of their wealth to the defense of Irael.....

Looks like you have some reading to do, Israel would not exist without United States.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_lobby_in_the_United_States
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_military_aid_to_Israel

 

[Doppel]

it could be a number of reasons, chinese/russian interests are something we can't even speculate on because we simply do not know... this IS however an opportunistic window for them, that much is obvious.

So you cannot give any decent path forward on how Israel will fall but simply because it could happen you assume it will?

Israel is the safest it's been in decades.

 

[poohbear]

Don't start celebrating just yet you self professed anti-semite.

There have been plenty of attacks over 65 years and Israel has won every single time despite being a lot weaker compared to their current state and Israel has never had fewer enemies than now.

Who exactly do you think is going to attack Israel and win? Hamas? Because that's the only entity that actually wants to invade Israel and they don't even have their itty bitty rockets anymore.

When u say anti semite, do u mean he's anti jewish or anti arab? Cause they're both semites. I know 99% of u on this forum are completely ignkrant on the region & get all ur info from the 2min fox/cnn/nbc news clips, but try to atleast understand the very basics.


OP, i think WE have alot more things to worry about in the west than what happens to Israel. They chose to create a homeland in the MIDDLE of the middle east, so let them sort it out. We have ebough problems of our own & frankly i could care less what happens over there.

 

[Karl Agathon]

If Israel falls, the nukes will have already long since been launched and exploded on their targets.

^^This

 

[Greenman]

If Israel falls we won't have to worry about their nukes, they'll have used them all up.

This.

I don't get why so many think Israel will just dry up and blow away. Those people have no where else to go, there is no plan B. When push comes to shove, they will stand their ground and fight to the bitter end. That bitter end will be mushroom clouds over much of the middle east.

 

[Matt1970]

So you cannot give any decent path forward on how Israel will fall but simply because it could happen you assume it will?

Israel is the safest it's been in decades.

I am trying to think of who it is that could cause Israel to fall. I mean it took them a whole 6 days to wipe the floor with Egypt, Jordan, Iraq and Syria.

 

[Zorkorist]

At some point, America will become so Government ridden, and Religion being ostracised, and countries like Israel, will become footnote in Wikipedia.

-John

 

[Zorkorist]

We can only hopr, that Government swallows up Religion.

Religion is scary.

-John

 

[JEDIYoda]

Looks like you have some reading to do, Israel would not exist without United States.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_lobby_in_the_United_States
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_military_aid_to_Israel

Again you do not know what you are talking about.

You really think Israel needs the help of the United states? You are sadly mistaken.


What do you not understand when I tell you that Israel does not need our help or our aid?

I know about those links.

They mean nothing. Israel took care of itself long before the United States started helping Israel.

Did Israel ask for the help?? No!!

They went it alone relying on wealthy Jews from other parts of the world and relying on the friendship of other countries.

You are an idiot if you honestly believe that without the intervention of the United States that Israel as a country would not exist!