When is the next DirectX coming out and will today's video cards be able to take advanatge of it?

Link19

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I have there will be another DirectX before DirectX 10 and it will be called DirectX 9.0L

http://theinquirer.net/?article=26220

It says that it will feature Shader Model 4.0. ANd it seems that today's ATI and NVIDIA cards don't support Shader Model 4.0. So if we just upgraded to a new system with a new high end video card today, it won't be able to utilize anything new that the next version of DirectX 9.0L will offer?

And when is DirectX 9.0L coming out? So it would be a waste to build an SLI full x16 capable system with one GeForce 7800GT video card and plan say to upgrade to another GeForce 7800GT video card three months later in order to take advanatge of the full x16 SLI speed for both video cards in one system? All because the the current GeForce 7800GT video cards don't support Shader Model 4.0 which DirectX 9.0L will deliver.

And when is DirectX 10 coming out? Is it going to be included with Vista right when Vista is released? Or will DX10 not yet be ready by the time Vista comes out and will be released as an installable addon to Windows Vista?
 

n7

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And this is why i found the whole SM 3.0 hype hilarious :p

OMGWTF my uber-1337 nVidia 6600GT has SM 3.0, it's so great for longterm...oh wait...
 

apoppin

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when? with Vista around October [i guess].

And it won't change much right away . . . look at the dx8 cards still playing games today . . . it'll be "awhile" after DX10 is released before we see any GAMES that actually use it . . .

you got a couple of years, imo

i just dropped $200 on an x850xt . . . i will be doing without SM 3.0 :p
['till i upgrade late next year . . . to Vista/DX10, DC. PPU, BluRay,DDR3/4, X-fire, etc.]
 

Gamingphreek

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Originally posted by: n7
And this is why i found the whole SM 3.0 hype hilarious :p

OMGWTF my uber-1337 nVidia 6600GT has SM 3.0, it's so great for longterm...oh wait...

SM3 and DX are two completely different things.

OP: DX10 and Longhorn are not due out this year even. IIRC it is set for 2007. We still have a whole nother generation of cards to go through before we begin to worry about that.

-Kevin
 

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A better question would be when will DX10 compliant cards be relevant. In one sense, it will become relevant with the release of Windows Vista at the end of 2006. That's cause even the GUI uses effects that require DX10. Think OSX graphical effects for Windows. In another sense, it will take close to another three years and certainly no less than two years for games that require DX10 to come out. Meaning DX10 will do nothing for the vast majority of gamers for years to come.
 

n7

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Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
Originally posted by: n7
And this is why i found the whole SM 3.0 hype hilarious :p

OMGWTF my uber-1337 nVidia 6600GT has SM 3.0, it's so great for longterm...oh wait...

SM3 and DX are two completely different things.

OP: DX10 and Longhorn are not due out this year even. IIRC it is set for 2007. We still have a whole nother generation of cards to go through before we begin to worry about that.

-Kevin


I'm well aware of that.

What i was referring to is the fact that it would support SM 4.0 cards.

Also, Vista is supposed to be out just before Christmas 2006, though with Microsuck developing it, who knows when it's going to actually come out...
 

Gamingphreek

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Originally posted by: n7
Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
Originally posted by: n7
And this is why i found the whole SM 3.0 hype hilarious :p

OMGWTF my uber-1337 nVidia 6600GT has SM 3.0, it's so great for longterm...oh wait...

SM3 and DX are two completely different things.

OP: DX10 and Longhorn are not due out this year even. IIRC it is set for 2007. We still have a whole nother generation of cards to go through before we begin to worry about that.

-Kevin


I'm well aware of that.

What i was referring to is the fact that it would support SM 4.0 cards.

Also, Vista is supposed to be out just before Christmas 2006, though with Microsuck developing it, who knows when it's going to actually come out...

As for the Inq thing it is wrong then. SM4 and DX have nothing in common. They are two completely different things. They could introduce DX12 and still use SM3 if they so desired.

As for Vista, hmm i heard 1H '07. You got an article, i honestly am not sure, but for some reason 2007 sticks in my mind.

-Kevin
 

hans030390

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Originally posted by: n7
And this is why i found the whole SM 3.0 hype hilarious :p

OMGWTF my uber-1337 nVidia 6600GT has SM 3.0, it's so great for longterm...oh wait...

hahaha, yeah, but still, a lot of next gen games are using SM3, not 4, because its so new.
I'm still better off than someone with SM2...you have to admit that.

yeah, i sorta crapped myself when i heard of sm4...hahaha. I'm jealous that I wont have it.

I'm not expecting Sm4 cards till early next year or later this year...
 

apoppin

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Originally posted by: thefonz
Any idea how long it will take before we see games based on dx10? How soon after vista launch?

late 07 at the very earliest and most likely just demos/3DMark08 and games utilizing some of it's features . . . full games take about 3 years to develop . . .

. . . if they got the DX10 specs and development kit TODAY, it'll be late '08/early'09 by the time a game is finished [Unreal4, anyone?]

you got LOTS of time . . . don't worry about DX10 videocards . . . Vista will still run on a 9800p [i believe].
 

Crescent13

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I'm glad I decided not to buy meself a 7800GT for christmas. Waiting to get dual 8950GTX 1GB cards. DX10 Vista ready FTW.
 

Genx87

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Originally posted by: n7
And this is why i found the whole SM 3.0 hype hilarious :p

OMGWTF my uber-1337 nVidia 6600GT has SM 3.0, it's so great for longterm...oh wait...

I wouldnt expect many games to take advantage of DX10 for the sole reason it wont be compatible with WinXP. The user base of WinXP us massive and will remain that way for a couple of years after the release of VISTA.