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when is obama gonna legalize weed?

Hes not, and no it wouldnt be.

He is however stopping the DEA raids on CA medical growers, so if you have a prescription, you are good to go here.
 
Originally posted by: IGBT
the dopers want this bad. he said he would sign a bill if it crosses his desk.

Who other than septuagenarians actually call marijuana "dope"? 😕
 
Originally posted by: yllus
Originally posted by: IGBT
the dopers want this bad. he said he would sign a bill if it crosses his desk.

Who other than septuagenarians actually call marijuana "dope"? 😕

Tools, knobs, douches... folks from that walk of life 🙂
 
Take the stigma away, tax the shit out of it, and watch it fall into obscurity. Hell, government subsidized "weed" farmers for a few years would all but ensure that nobody smokes it ever again.
 
Originally posted by: yllus
Originally posted by: IGBT
the dopers want this bad. he said he would sign a bill if it crosses his desk.

Who other than septuagenarians actually call marijuana "dope"? 😕

seriously. that shit is whack*

(* came in here to use "dope", but as I typed it I realized it was the opposite of what I had been looking for. But I've type it, and this... I will still post)
 
I would agree with legalizing it, treat it just like alcohol, and tax it as much as cigarrettes. It would still be cheaper then what people pay for it now. (or so I hear) Of course, where to grow it in large fields like tobacco is going to be the harder part. People constantly running into your fields to steal it would be annoying for farmers.
 
We can just take away all the bonuses of CEOs and top level executives for 2009 and then we'll have a zero deficit
 
Originally posted by: dbk
Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Originally posted by: invidia
We can just take away all the bonuses of CEOs and top level executives for 2009 and then we'll have a zero deficit

😕

lol

Everyone should work for free this year, we'll do our part. The government will dole out food and shelter vouches based upon need.
 
Once the typical sterotypes of this so called "dope" drug are gone, we'll see it legalized.
My thoughts on this is, not anytime soon, and not on a federal level, more like state and local first, if possible....

But to the OP, you are right, the amount of $$ that can get generated from this "drug" would sooth and save our economy.
 
Actually I'd be really curious as to the actual value of decriminalizing pot and taxing it. Considering that marijuana crimes constitute the bulk of our tax dollars at work in the criminal justice department and most of our prisons are filled with people from marijuana related crimes. That alone has to be in the high billions per year, now add a tax revenue potential in the high billions. It would also stop an outpouring of American wealth and cash to other countries if we allow commercial growing in this country.

I just saw this:
http://www.prohibitioncosts.org/
 
Originally posted by: Tsaico
I would agree with legalizing it, treat it just like alcohol, and tax it as much as cigarrettes. It would still be cheaper then what people pay for it now. (or so I hear) Of course, where to grow it in large fields like tobacco is going to be the harder part. People constantly running into your fields to steal it would be annoying for farmers.

weed is the biggest cash crop in 13 states.... i'm sure there are enough area for it.
some may become famous for its taste.

link

 
Originally posted by: dakels
Actually I'd be really curious as to the actual value of decriminalizing pot and taxing it. Considering that marijuana crimes constitute the bulk of our tax dollars at work in the criminal justice department and most of our prisons are filled with people from marijuana related crimes. That alone has to be in the high billions per year, now add a tax revenue potential in the high billions. It would also stop an outpouring of American wealth and cash to other countries if we allow commercial growing in this country.

I just saw this:
http://www.prohibitioncosts.org/


EDIT: $14 billion in annual combined annual savings and revenues would cover the securing of all "loose nukes" in the former Soviet Union (estimated by former Assistant Secretary of Defense Lawrence Korb at $30 billion) in less than three years

For christs sake.... we spend $14-30 billion a year on securing the ex Soviet Union's nukes?
 
Originally posted by: TechBoyJK
Originally posted by: IGBT
the dopers want this bad. he said he would sign a bill if it crosses his desk.

it would do good for the ecomony and society

O RLY?

So poor people taking money away from their mortgages, bills, and necessities to purchase a heavily taxed marijuana is going to create more foreclosures, car repossessions, higher credit card debts, and starving homeless people, and that is going to save the economy? Is that what your saying?
 
Originally posted by: SunnyD
Take the stigma away, tax the shit out of it, and watch it fall into obscurity. Hell, government subsidized "weed" farmers for a few years would all but ensure that nobody smokes it ever again.

seriously.

For the first few years, the amount used would skyrocket as it would be super easy to get a hold of.
But, the first notion is - would it be government-subsidized growers, or would it be whatever farmer wants to grow it and sell product directly to corporations, most likely already popular corps like whoever owns Malboro and the other groups? They've already shown interest in taking up whatever the market wants by doing trials of Snus for those who want nicotine to use discretely in places where smoking is not legal, like public places, or easy to use at work without requiring a spit cup.

If it were public corporations selling it, likely some corps would want to only buy premium crops, or buy a lot of varieties and sell it under different brands/labels.

If it were government subsidized, likely it would all be brown ass shag product.

Regardless, the same effect will be the result. Everyone who wants it legalized would run to the stores frequently buying a lot of product. But as a few years passed on and it became easy to find, the glory would fade. Those who like it would continue to purchase it, but for many it would become something almost like alcohol. Maybe enjoy it from time to time on weeknights, but likely more commonly a weekend product for the majority of the working population, and as the stigma fades, so would popularity. But they aren't quite tied. The stigma comes from so many seeing it as the evil of society. The popularity within some circles come from the fact that it's so readily enjoyable, because for many, it has to be enjoyed on rare occasions due to the stigma, and due to the "scarcity" of product - having to grow through dealers, it being illegal so it cannot be enjoyed everywhere, and having to even know who to get it from and have a place where it can be used, that and drug testing for many, are all factors that add to the popularity. With the rare use of it, you glorify it because you seek to really enjoy it when you use it.

If you can go into a convenience store and purchase it whenever you want, you will have stuff at home for whenever you want, can toke up on your way home from work, and likely could smoke as you walk down the street (barring city legality of smoking anything in public). The popularity would fade because the population will be used to it - it's there whenever you want it, and can use it frequently. It'll become like cigarettes and alcohol, depending on the person one or the other. Like alcohol for the ones who seek to use it as either a social or relaxing drug, and like cigarettes for the crowd that become addicted and have to take smoke breaks frequently just to stay calm.

But then again, it not being a stimulant, that might take away that possible effect. Many cannot really stay stoned all day while working at the office or at the restaurant, and I bet, while legal, many employers would seek to keep it out of the workplace. But drug testing would be inefficient, because if its legal, can a company really dictate that you cannot use it while not at work, as long as its not before work? That might cause some trouble but likely nothing too bad, and nothing that would last and employers become smarter about its use during work hours.
 
Originally posted by: DannyLove
Once the typical sterotypes of this so called "dope" drug are gone, we'll see it legalized.
My thoughts on this is, not anytime soon, and not on a federal level, more like state and local first, if possible....

But to the OP, you are right, the amount of $$ that can get generated from this "drug" would sooth and save our economy.

You mean the stereotypes like:

It makes people lazy
It impairs people's hand-eye cooirdination
It gives you lip lung and throat cancer
It is a powerful depressant
It is a powerful immune system suppressant
It is a genetic mutagen
It causes brain damage in long term users

You mean those silly little stereotypes?
 
Originally posted by: invidia
We can just take away all the bonuses of CEOs and top level executives for 2009 and then we'll have a zero deficit

Have you done the math on this? If you have you would know that all the banter over their pay is peanuts compared to the rest of the waste.
 
Originally posted by: destrekor

But then again, it not being a stimulant, that might take away that possible effect. Many cannot really stay stoned all day while working at the office or at the restaurant, and I bet, while legal, many employers would seek to keep it out of the workplace. But drug testing would be inefficient, because if its legal, can a company really dictate that you cannot use it while not at work, as long as its not before work? That might cause some trouble but likely nothing too bad, and nothing that would last and employers become smarter about its use during work hours.

Some places do it with tobacco
 
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