When I say next Sunday

[BlackTigers]

This sunday would be February 3rd.

Next sunday would be the 10th.

That's how I've always said it, and thats how everyone I know says them. Right or wrong, I don't know.

 

[MotionMan]

Originally posted by: BlackTigers91
This sunday would be February 3rd.

Next sunday would be the 10th.

That's how I've always said it, and thats how everyone I know says them. Right or wrong, I don't know.

So next Christmas is in December 2009?

MotionMan

 

[BlackTigers]

Originally posted by: MotionMan

Originally posted by: BlackTigers91
This sunday would be February 3rd.

Next sunday would be the 10th.

That's how I've always said it, and thats how everyone I know says them. Right or wrong, I don't know.

So next Christmas is in December 2009?

MotionMan

Well, no...

But I've always considered days of the week to be different.

Like when you say 'next', you are referring to a new 'part' so to speak. A new week, a new month, new year. But 'this' is more of describing the pieces of the part.

So in a week, the days would be 'pieces', and I would use 'this' to talk about them, provided they were in the same week. (Week is seven days from whenever I'm talking about). Next would refer to the pieces from the next week.

That probably made absolutely zero sense, good day.

 

[Krazy4Real]

Originally posted by: MotionMan

Originally posted by: BlackTigers91
This sunday would be February 3rd.

Next sunday would be the 10th.

That's how I've always said it, and thats how everyone I know says them. Right or wrong, I don't know.

So next Christmas is in December 2009?

MotionMan

Yes, but this Christmas is in December 2008.

 

[MotionMan]

Originally posted by: BlackTigers91

Originally posted by: MotionMan

Originally posted by: BlackTigers91
This sunday would be February 3rd.

Next sunday would be the 10th.

That's how I've always said it, and thats how everyone I know says them. Right or wrong, I don't know.

So next Christmas is in December 2009?

MotionMan

Well, no...

But I've always considered days of the week to be different.

Like when you say 'next', you are referring to a new 'part' so to speak. A new week, a new month, new year. But 'this' is more of describing the pieces of the part.

So in a week, the days would be 'pieces', and I would use 'this' to talk about them, provided they were in the same week. (Week is seven days from whenever I'm talking about). Next would refer to the pieces from the next week.

That probably made absolutely zero sense, good day.

So the "next day" would be a piece in the week following the current week, meaning that if you told someone you were going to do something "the next day", it would actually be a week away?

MotionMan

 

[MotionMan]

Originally posted by: Krazy4Real

Originally posted by: MotionMan

Originally posted by: BlackTigers91
This sunday would be February 3rd.

Next sunday would be the 10th.

That's how I've always said it, and thats how everyone I know says them. Right or wrong, I don't know.

So next Christmas is in December 2009?

MotionMan

Yes

Really?

Just wow.

MotionMan

 

[lokiju]

Originally posted by: Nikamichi
To me it means the Sunday after this one.
This Sunday
Next Sunday

What he said.

 

[BrokenVisage]

Oh yes, I love this debate. Here's my take on it..

'Next Sunday' means the next Sunday coming up.
'This Sunday' means the next Sunday coming up.
However, 'this next Sunday' means 2 Sundays from now because you're saying that this week's next Sunday is when you plan to do whatever.

I don't understand how anyone can agree with 'Next Sunday' or 'Next Sunday' meaning TWO Sundays from now, the syntax just does not fit to me. But whatever, people are people.

 

[dainthomas]

Originally posted by: MmmSkyscraper

Originally posted by: oldsmoboat
To me it means the Sunday after this one.
This Sunday
Next Sunday

/thread

 

[R Nilla]

How about this:

This Sunday is short for This week's Sunday.
Next Sunday is short for Next week's Sunday.

This seems to be how most people in this thread are using the terms "This [day]" and "Next [day]". If you consider them to be short for "This week's [day]" and "Next week's [day]" then it makes perfect sense and still allows you to use "this" and "next" normally and not be at odds with the analogies pointed out by MotionMan.

Of course, looking at Sunday as either the beginning or ending of the week may throw this off.

 

[ZetaEpyon]

Originally posted by: MotionMan
Is your next appointment the appointment after the one you have coming up?

Is the next hot dog you eat going to be two hot dogs from now?

What is the next thing you are going to say to me?

Next: immediately following in time, order, importance, etc.: the next day; the next person in line.

This: used to indicate a person, place, thing, or degree as present, near, just indicated or mentioned, or as well-known or characteristic): These people are my friends. This problem has worried me for a long time. Used to indicate the nearer in time, place, or thought of two persons, things, etc.; opposed to that.

MotionMan

I believe this not to be the case for most people when referring to days of the week, because people seem to work with a "rolling week" of seven days for stuff like this. This effective rolling week always starts with the present day, regardless of what weekday it is. Thus, if the upcoming Sunday falls within this seven day span, it's this Sunday, regardless of whether you consider it the start of the next "technical" week or not.

What confuses things more is that people also seem to reverse this rolling week to accommodate things in the past. Ultimately, context wins out.

Personally, I most often use "this Sunday" for both the immediate upcoming Sunday as well as the immediate preceding Sunday. Context makes all the difference, and people don't get confused.

 

[xboxist]

this Sunday = the Sunday that will happen next

next Sunday = the Sunday after the one mentioned above

 

[BrokenVisage]

Originally posted by: xboxist
this Sunday = the Sunday that will happen next

next Sunday = the Sunday after the one mentioned above

Yeah but you never state "after the one mentioned above" or anything like that pertaining to the coming Sunday when you say "Next Sunday" in regular conversation, at least I've never known anyone who would spell it out like that. That's why for the sake of proper context "Next Sunday" SHOULD mean the next Sunday that comes up.

 

[BrokenVisage]

Originally posted by: ZetaEpyon

Originally posted by: MotionMan
Is your next appointment the appointment after the one you have coming up?

Is the next hot dog you eat going to be two hot dogs from now?

What is the next thing you are going to say to me?

Next: immediately following in time, order, importance, etc.: the next day; the next person in line.

This: used to indicate a person, place, thing, or degree as present, near, just indicated or mentioned, or as well-known or characteristic): These people are my friends. This problem has worried me for a long time. Used to indicate the nearer in time, place, or thought of two persons, things, etc.; opposed to that.

MotionMan

I believe this not to be the case for most people when referring to days of the week, because people seem to work with a "rolling week" of seven days for stuff like this. This effective rolling week always starts with the present day, regardless of what weekday it is. Thus, if the upcoming Sunday falls within this seven day span, it's this Sunday, regardless of whether you consider it the start of the next "technical" week or not.

That's the problem though, people are ignorant and sloppy with how they word and understand things and rely on context clues to get their point across without proper usage more and more often. Regardless of rolling weeks, flying weeks, sweeps weeks, etc.. the right way of using 'This' and 'Next' for a day should pertain to the same damn day. However that's a departure from how people seem to want to use the qualifiers of 'This' and 'Next', so the socially applicable ways of using them will always win out, because no one will care they're saying it wrong if that's how they've known to use it their entire life's. And speaking of lifes, God I need one heh.

 

[hdeck]

why say "next" at all if you are referring to the Sunday that is day after tomorrow? you don't need the word next at all. "I'm doing something Sunday" is faster to type and less confusing to most.

 

[imported_yovonbishop]

Originally posted by: KeithTalent
To me it means the Sunday after this one.
This Sunday
Next Sunday

KT

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: oldsmoboat
To me it means the Sunday after this one.
This Sunday
Next Sunday

This man speaks the truth.

Edit: Wow, people are debating this... foreigners I assume?

 

[MercenaryYoureFired]

Originally posted by: R Nilla
How about this:

This Sunday is short for This week's Sunday.
Next Sunday is short for Next week's Sunday.

This seems to be how most people in this thread are using the terms "This [day]" and "Next [day]". If you consider them to be short for "This week's [day]" and "Next week's [day]" then it makes perfect sense and still allows you to use "this" and "next" normally and not be at odds with the analogies pointed out by MotionMan.

Of course, looking at Sunday as either the beginning or ending of the week may throw this off.

Exactly, people like MotionMan and the like are taking "This Sunday" and "Next Sunday" too literally. In the context of how we say it we're generally implying that "This"=This week and "Next"=Next week. So when we say "This Sunday" we really mean "This week's Sunday".

Unfortunately just like this thread, everyone says this differently, making everyone double check their accuracy when others say "This" and "Next" to make sure their views on this subject are the same, ultimately making this thread completely illrelevent.

-MYF

 

[nonameo]

Think of it as a contraction. This week's sunday.

 

[MotionMan]

Originally posted by: MercenaryYoureFired

Originally posted by: R Nilla
How about this:

This Sunday is short for This week's Sunday.
Next Sunday is short for Next week's Sunday.

This seems to be how most people in this thread are using the terms "This [day]" and "Next [day]". If you consider them to be short for "This week's [day]" and "Next week's [day]" then it makes perfect sense and still allows you to use "this" and "next" normally and not be at odds with the analogies pointed out by MotionMan.

Of course, looking at Sunday as either the beginning or ending of the week may throw this off.

Exactly, people like MotionMan and the like are taking "This Sunday" and "Next Sunday" too literally.

If by "literally" you mean "correctly", then I agree.



MotionMan

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: MotionMan

Originally posted by: MercenaryYoureFired

Originally posted by: R Nilla
How about this:

This Sunday is short for This week's Sunday.
Next Sunday is short for Next week's Sunday.

This seems to be how most people in this thread are using the terms "This [day]" and "Next [day]". If you consider them to be short for "This week's [day]" and "Next week's [day]" then it makes perfect sense and still allows you to use "this" and "next" normally and not be at odds with the analogies pointed out by MotionMan.

Of course, looking at Sunday as either the beginning or ending of the week may throw this off.

Exactly, people like MotionMan and the like are taking "This Sunday" and "Next Sunday" too literally.

If by "literally" you mean "correctly", then I agree.



MotionMan

If I said "next Saturday," what day would I be referring to?

Do you know what an idiom is?

 

[MotionMan]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: MotionMan

Originally posted by: MercenaryYoureFired

Originally posted by: R Nilla
How about this:

This Sunday is short for This week's Sunday.
Next Sunday is short for Next week's Sunday.

This seems to be how most people in this thread are using the terms "This [day]" and "Next [day]". If you consider them to be short for "This week's [day]" and "Next week's [day]" then it makes perfect sense and still allows you to use "this" and "next" normally and not be at odds with the analogies pointed out by MotionMan.

Of course, looking at Sunday as either the beginning or ending of the week may throw this off.

Exactly, people like MotionMan and the like are taking "This Sunday" and "Next Sunday" too literally.

If by "literally" you mean "correctly", then I agree.



MotionMan

If I said "next Saturday," what day would I be referring to?

Do you know what an idiom is?

I cannot read your mind as to what you intended to mean, but to me it would indicate tomorrow (2/2). However, whenever someone uses "next [day of the week]", I always ask for clarification.

MotionMan

 

[Nitemare]

Originally posted by: MotionMan
next Sunday = this Sunday = the Sunday less than or equal to a week from now

Sunday after next = 2nd Sunday from now = the Sunday more than a week from now

MotionMan

yup

 

[ShadowOfMyself]

Originally posted by: MotionMan

Originally posted by: MercenaryYoureFired

Originally posted by: R Nilla
How about this:

This Sunday is short for This week's Sunday.
Next Sunday is short for Next week's Sunday.

This seems to be how most people in this thread are using the terms "This [day]" and "Next [day]". If you consider them to be short for "This week's [day]" and "Next week's [day]" then it makes perfect sense and still allows you to use "this" and "next" normally and not be at odds with the analogies pointed out by MotionMan.

Of course, looking at Sunday as either the beginning or ending of the week may throw this off.

Exactly, people like MotionMan and the like are taking "This Sunday" and "Next Sunday" too literally.

If by "literally" you mean "correctly", then I agree.



MotionMan

QFT

No matter how you guys spin it, next sunday will be on the 3rd, no ifs or buts

You assume people know you are saying "this weeks" or "next weeks" which they might not, so if you want to be 100% correct, next is the upcoming one

/thread

 

[JTsyo]

I think the root of the problem is that the week starts on a Sunday but the weekend ends on Sunday. So it depends how people think of Sunday.