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When humans ALMOST went extinct

BoomerD said:
Missed it by -> <- that much. The planet would have been SO MUCH better off had ALL hoomans been exterminated.
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Zorba said:
Humans have been destroying ecosystems for 10s of thousands of years.
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I have been saying for 20 years that we need to be wiped out. The planet has been trying for a long time to shake us off. I think Agent Smith was right when he said that we are a virus in the amazing movie The Matrix.
 
Please. The universe have exchanged entropy for higher levels of complexity since the dawn of time, we doing what we do, "fucking the planet up" is on par with how shit is supposed to work, have worked for 14b years.
The test it seems is if we're gonna be able to control and navigate the fallout. If we manage to choke our own habitat out, it wasnt meant to be. If we dont. Well. Shit might get interesting.
 
cytg111 said:
Please. The universe have exchanged entropy for higher levels of complexity since the dawn of time, we doing what we do, "fucking the planet up" is on par with how shit is supposed to work, have worked for 14b years.
The test it seems is if we're gonna be able to control and navigate the fallout. If we manage to choke our own habitat out, it wasnt meant to be. If we dont. Well. Shit might get interesting.
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We do it too fast. Humans are too impatient to work with the universe, we always try to eat, fuck, and shit more than we are right now in spite of the universe.
 
[DHT]Osiris said:
we always try to eat, fuck, and shit more
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Paradoxically, this happens more in the third world countries. It's like those idiots don't understand that more babies means more problems for themselves, their countries and the entire world, not to mention awful quality of life for the newborns when they grow up and have to compete with all the others for limited resources that are ALREADY constrained thanks to the overpopulation of their countries. Absolute shithead level of selfishness.
 
igor_kavinski said:
Paradoxically, this happens more in the third world countries. It's like those idiots don't understand that more babies means more problems for themselves, their countries and the entire world, not to mention awful quality of life for the newborns when they grow up and have to compete with all the others for limited resources that are ALREADY constrained thanks to the overpopulation of their countries. Absolute shithead level of selfishness.
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Making children is the only goal humans have instinctually. If not pressed by outside influence or personal desire, generally speaking humans will reproduce until they've outstripped their ability to maintain themselves in their surroundings, at which point they move on.
 
igor_kavinski said:
I think only the illiterate brutes are like that. The more educated people become, the more responsible their choices become, even when it comes to sex and babies.
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That's just ego talking. The educated of our era is just concerned about too much shit so they're less likely to reproduce. The uneducated don't know what they should be concerned about. That's not responsible vs irresponsible, just fear.

We're too many animals in too small a cage.
 
[DHT]Osiris said:
We're too many animals in too small a cage.
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Not really. There are huge parts of land that are still unpopulated and not necessarily because they are uninhabitable. Cities just don't expand that much. They grow vertically (taller buildings) rather than taking up more land and keeping things more spread apart.
 
igor_kavinski said:
Not really. There are huge parts of land that are still unpopulated and not necessarily because they are uninhabitable. Cities just don't expand that much. They grow vertically (taller buildings) rather than taking up more land and keeping things more spread apart.
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Resource utilization efficiency has never really been our strong suit. I could be full of shit, but it just feels like in too many parts of the world, everything is spread too thin and it's primarily because we've got too many people to feed, entertain, control, educate, and protect. That could just be the introvert in me talking though.
 
Kids are also the only income some people have, in the US and other places. Pop out another one, get another $500/mo or more in benefits, plus any applicable tax credits.

Each one got you a whole bunch of extra stimulus money too.

I'm not sure you should get any more money after the first two kids.
 
igor_kavinski said:
I think only the illiterate brutes are like that. The more educated people become, the more responsible their choices become, even when it comes to sex and babies.
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-I think it's the exact inverse of that, really: the more impulse control a person has (either innately or learned) the more generally successful they are.

Just that ability to stop and think about options then go toward the most beneficial one yields huge benefits over just throwing themselves at the first option that presents itself good or bad.
 
igor_kavinski said:

Reduced to 1300 people?

Why does this remind me of the Noah Ark? 🙂
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Because you had it to drilled into your head as a kid, that and both stories have a common theme of disastrous calamity? I know I sure did. The grown ups either didn't know it was reheated Mesopotamian leftovers, or didn't care.

"For about 117,000 years in the past, a mere 1,280 breeding individuals supported the population." Damn. That sounds like the big one that happened ~70,000 BCE, Toba. Crazy to think of how many close calls we've had.

No wonder all of our genetic cousins are extinct. They couldn't handle the 4 Cs. Climate, caves, cannibalism, and copulation.
 
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Zorba said:
Humans have been destroying ecosystems for 10s of thousands of years.
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We have, but almost never to the extent of absolute completion that the industrial revolution has provided. It was an absolute game changer.
Just now, we are beginning to learn that plastic, which has contaminated everything water can touch, is found in all our organs and at the very least, causes a form of dementia to progress.
 
[DHT]Osiris said:
We do it too fast. Humans are too impatient to work with the universe, we always try to eat, fuck, and shit more than we are right now in spite of the universe.
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I dont know, I think its business as usual, nothing ever change course until it hits a wall, maybe with the exception of us. Let's see how we handle this oncoming train.
It is as they say, society grows great when old men plant trees which shade they're never gonna sit in.
I am optimistic. And if we crap out we crap out. The corvids can take the next round.
 
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