How? Johnson, with the civil rights and voting rights acts of 64/65 opened the door to the republicans in the south, and he knew it. Sometimes one pays for doing the right thing.
HomerJS
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There are rules, Skippy.
You must be white, straight and Christian to benefit from your kind of love.
I'll take a pass.
Captante
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Because evil never dies .... it only rests and waits for fleeting human memories to fade.
Then it re-surfaces with a new face.
Then it re-surfaces with a new face.
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Republicans only target societal groups despised by evanglical christians. And in return evanglicals give republicans their allegiance.
Have you spent any time in the Midwestern USA?
No - and that is the problem - he thinks they are the party of love while spread hate right and left and every nook and cranny they can find.
I don't think the thread title is nonsense so much as that it asks the wrong question. I think it should be, When and how did humans learn to hate. That would cover every party.
Don't you think you ask because you know that hate is a horrible thing? How do you know that? Don't you feel that hate is worth hating? Hate creates pain and pain is a justification for escaping a painful state. And isn't it easy to go from the escape from pain to revenge on those who deal it out? Isn't hate pain turned into justification for ending it by the same way it is inflicted, pain going back to the source of initiation by the means with with it was delivered. Who will accept their pain and forgive? Only those who suffer it. To grieve is to heal and nobody feels they deserve it.
No - my point in the thread is the republicans are using hate to motivate voters - it doesn't mean the represenative actually feel this same level of hate (which is some ways a lot worse); they declare - for example gays are evil - and then to show their voters how effective they are at combating this evil they pass massive legislation targeted at gays - the problem today is they are doing this for so many groups so quickly in so many states it is really scary. As the voters interest drop they have to find a new group to target and they have to be more extreme at it to grab the voters attention. They are in effect TEACHING their voters who to hate - there is no reason to explain why this group should have hate directed at them - it is only important to hate them and that they must be voted in to address this evil group the other party ignores or even promote. Statistic shows the rapid increase in violence against these groups when this hate is pushed every day whether it be mexican, muslim, gay, trans, .... whatever the flavor of this week might be. None of this is good for good ol USA.
FelixDeCat
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In the spirit of Republican love, I can tell you I LOVE that damn song.
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Vic
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Republicans are so filled with love that they just can't wait to wrap up all the poor and the immigrants in the loving embrace of the concentration camp.
crashtech
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I guess sanctuary cities are the new concentration camp according to you, except Martha's Vineyard, which has the distinction of being a sanctuary city without ever actually providing any sanctuary. Rules for thee and not for me and all of that.
crashtech
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Scratch a leftists' love and you find a red-hot hate through and through.
I feel sorry for conservatives. How could you ask for better citizens than those who believe that laws should be enforced and then allow them to to have so much influence in creating unjust laws. For black and white thinkers that's a nightmare. Liberals aren't going to help enforce them. For sure I'm not joining that team. But I don't wonder why they hate me. I'm not stuck with the idea you have to punish people who won't support bad law like conservatives are and my lack of inhibitions scares the shit out of them. What if I got it in my head I didn't need to obey the law not to kill people. Do we really want mad men living by their own rules. Only the terror of punishment makes the trains run on time. Liberals are atheists. Once God is dead morals have no meaning.
hal2kilo
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I can't believe after all these years, I thought that was a Three Dog Night song.
I find the lyrics to be intensely intriguing . How can one see the positive while focused on self pity. I am all for permitting oneself to feel self pity but only when the question is why and the understanding is that the feeling is only a feeling and actually a lie. The problem is that we are both unconscious of what we feel and we believe how we feel is the truth. This makes out fundamental assumptions about life a lie.
Their hate was there before Southern Strategy and Dixiecrats.
Teddy Roosevelt, whom most Americans view positively (heroic even) was a white nationalist (just not in the virulent "let's go kill all non-whites" sense, but he did believe white people were inherently superior and was a nationalist; also the wars like Spanish-American and Philippine-American wars were pretty much based on racism, were the usual western Imperialism bullshit which is inherently hateful and racist).
Hoover blamed the Great Depression on Mexicans:
And look at the conservative generals after WWII that wanted us to nuke Russia and China, and probably others. We also watched and enabled multiple genocides occur due to our hatred of "leftists".
Plus McCarthy wasn't a Dixiecrat and predated the Southern Strategy.
It didn't take much to whip up virulent anti-Japanese sentiment (it was being primed even before Pearl Harbor), and a lot of that anti-Asian sentiment is what fueled our policies in Asia since then.
This hate didn't come out of nowhere. Its been there almost the whole time (it just changes who it gets focused on). What changed is the various groups that exploited it started to buddy up and turn it into a concerted campaign to gain wealth and power. Before it had been a bunch of disparate groups, vying for their own, but they realized if they helped each other fuck people over and blame it on the right people, they could get what they wanted. Which is why Republicans and Evangelicals buddied up hard. And that sucked in other groups based almost entirely on hate, nationalists, racists, anti-intelligence. Hell they even got anti-government Libertarian people to support them by pushing hate.
The hate was there the whole time, which is why the Southern Strategy, Reaganomics, the Cold War, War on Drugs/Terror/etc, all worked. Because they all just lit matches on the lighter fluid and gasoline that rich assholes had been dousing America with for centuries.
Teddy Roosevelt, whom most Americans view positively (heroic even) was a white nationalist (just not in the virulent "let's go kill all non-whites" sense, but he did believe white people were inherently superior and was a nationalist; also the wars like Spanish-American and Philippine-American wars were pretty much based on racism, were the usual western Imperialism bullshit which is inherently hateful and racist).
Hoover blamed the Great Depression on Mexicans:
And look at the conservative generals after WWII that wanted us to nuke Russia and China, and probably others. We also watched and enabled multiple genocides occur due to our hatred of "leftists".
Plus McCarthy wasn't a Dixiecrat and predated the Southern Strategy.
It didn't take much to whip up virulent anti-Japanese sentiment (it was being primed even before Pearl Harbor), and a lot of that anti-Asian sentiment is what fueled our policies in Asia since then.
This hate didn't come out of nowhere. Its been there almost the whole time (it just changes who it gets focused on). What changed is the various groups that exploited it started to buddy up and turn it into a concerted campaign to gain wealth and power. Before it had been a bunch of disparate groups, vying for their own, but they realized if they helped each other fuck people over and blame it on the right people, they could get what they wanted. Which is why Republicans and Evangelicals buddied up hard. And that sucked in other groups based almost entirely on hate, nationalists, racists, anti-intelligence. Hell they even got anti-government Libertarian people to support them by pushing hate.
The hate was there the whole time, which is why the Southern Strategy, Reaganomics, the Cold War, War on Drugs/Terror/etc, all worked. Because they all just lit matches on the lighter fluid and gasoline that rich assholes had been dousing America with for centuries.
Hmm, let's just redefine history to mean only the past 500 years. This stupid revisionist history judging the actions of nations from the past from a modern cultural perspective is just nuts!
Imperialism, in one form or another, has been around for at least 5,000 years. It's just the winners and losers that have changed over the time. Before that it was clashing tribes, before that - some dude smashing in the skull of another to take the deer he killed. People will violently protect their interests and violently obtain what they desire by whatever means they can. If the 'other' looks different - all the better.
This, in my opinion, does not address the fact that humans are social primates which means their ability to cooperate is the source and key to our evolutionary success. This adaptive feature, in turn, derives from a mammalian capacity to feel empathy for its young. I believe that hatred is the result of thought, the ability to compare, to have been set up as children to compete for social standing, not based on natural capacity but the bigotry of favoritism for conformity those who follow absurd thought created rules. Comparison coupled with thought invents superior and inferior, good and evil, and with the competition to achieve the cultural norms of status. Competition is where hatred comes to play. competition is based on winning and losing and the ego satisfaction of winning and the fear of losing. The fear of losing also creates hate. Fear is hate as is competition. The whole world of duality based on thought is stuck in this game. Empathy is disadvantageous for competitive people, the kind our society breeds.
Hatred is created by fear. Fear, however, can be irrational or it can be rational. Humans may have an inborn sense of spiders and snakes. It is however a fear that can be overridden in some cases by expertise, knowing which are dangerous and which are not by knowing what to look for. We quickly learn as children to get out of the way of angry hateful people, if we can. They, like some snakes and spiders can be very dangerous. Liberal fear of conservatism on mad is quite rational. All sane people can now see they are a threat to the nation. It is just rationalization to try to hide behind the fact that both sides feel hate. One side is rationally motivated, the other is not. Hatred in this case of liberals creates an impetus to act. The challenge for liberals is not to confuse the need to stop dangerous people with becoming infected with the same madness that affects conservatives. You can put down a mad dog without hating it. It may only be mad because of rabies. Similarly, conservatives are sick but it isn't their fault. Madness in humans is the result of programming.
Hatred is the product of thought which is the product of language. Hatred is self hate projected, being made to feel worthless bu being put down as a child. This is what the Garden of Eden is all about and why the Kingdom of heaven is with us, all allegorical representations of inner psychological processes that we do not want to face.
HomerJS
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No labels is a thing because right wing billionaires are funding it. Gives them an extra shot if NL stops everyone from 270
FelixDeCat
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