When did the athlon 64 3300 come out?

[nitro28]

I work for a computer retail store and I got a new hp desktop in with an athlon 64 3300. Anyone know anything about this chip, is it a 754 or 939. It claims to have only 256k L2.

 

[JBDan]

Are you sure? 3300?

 

[nitro28]

Yeh, its right on the box and front of tower. here is a link to tower.hp 810

 

[JBDan]

Hmmm I'm thinkin its a typo meant to read "AMD64 3800+" which runs at 2.4 GHz but it has 512 L2

 

[nitro28]

must be 754, it has a AGP, it runs at 2.4Ghz

 

[nitro28]

It is labled in 3 different places and that computer retails for just over $600. I havn't seen hp do anything with a 3800 for that price.

 

[mwmorph]

probably 939 because 754 is pretty much dead. also probably OEM only.

 

[imported_Woo]

Maybe it's a version made strictly for HP machines.

 

[Mik3y]

Originally posted by: Woo
Maybe it's a version made strictly for HP machines.

no. that's not cost effective. this is all a mistake made from hp.

 

[nitro28]

I'll boot it up next time I work and see what it says.

 

[nitro28]

here is another link that shows it as a 754 with 256k. Its in Japanese, but scroll down.
link

 

[mwmorph]

that would be a great deal if its true though, can you check how much the ps is?300w?. maybe add a 6600GT and top it off at 1100 with a CRT monitor and Audigy 2 zs Gamer(i like the bundle) and itll be a sweet cheap game rig.

 

[TheGeek]

hmmmm...interesting

 

[Duvie]

Why the hell would they make a 256kb l2 cache chip???? I guess we can see why 2.4ghz would command a low rating. In apps where the l2 cache is not a big deal this chip could be quite the performer....

I wonder if they are wounded chips where the cache had some defects so they disbaled a portion of it....Kinda like the M0 stepping P4's being EE chips where the l3 cache failed...

 

[mwmorph]

does 256kb really cripple the A-64?

 

[Duvie]

Originally posted by: mwmorph
does 256kb really cripple the A-64?

Only in certain apps will the lack of cache take a performance hit...

If cache made no difference then AMD's whole PR rating would be in shambles....Look at the pr rating and speed of the 3800+ 754 since it has the 1mb of l2 cache. It obviously makes a difference...

 

[n7]

I am curious too.

I saw that we (at work) are going to be getting that very same that CPU on an eMachines desktop soon too, & i was like WTF?!?

It seems as if it really is a special aka sh!tty version for manufacturers.


We also carry Compaq P4 2.8 GHz 400 FSB desktops too, & i've never seen that CPU sold anywhere.

And how about the Compaq SR1214NX, which has an Athlon XP 2900+ (2.0 GHz), that has a PCI-e motherboard?!?

 

[drpootums]

I know there was a story a while ago about some mobile processor being like this. It was a 2800+ i think, with 256kb of L2 cache. Sounded right as it was a Socket A cpu, but the owner took the laptop apart and it was a skt754 processor. CPUID said it was a Clawhammer 2800+ skt 754 with 256kb's of cache, but it didnt support 64bit apps, so it's like a Athlon XP 2800+ in a skt754 version...wierd...

 

[Avalon]

Could it be a s754 sempr0n?

 

[Budman]

Probaly a Sempron... but wait a sempron doesnt have 64bit.... this is very weird indeed.

 

[mwmorph]

semprons only go up to 3100+ anyway. not 3300+.

 

[Avalon]

Originally posted by: mwmorph
semprons only go up to 3100+ anyway. not 3300+.

New units are released through OEMs first, a lot of the times.

 

[vanionBB]

Here is what AMD says about its Semprons.

The socket 754 Semprons have SSE2, the socket A ones do not.

My guess here is that they crippled the L2 cache on an Athlon 64 and ramped up the CPU speed to compensate. Their whole naming scheme is based on equivalency to Intel processors anyway. So a 3300 will typically perform on par with a Intel P4 3.3ghz processor. That means they can fudge with it, add cache, raise clock speeds, and still get the same "equivalency" with their Intel counterparts. Whats in a name anyway?

 

[EightySix Four]

My best guess: 3300+ is a proc that's cache couldn't quite cut the cake, so they sliced the cache and sold it cheap.

 

[mwmorph]

it's a good chip. i actually bought a hp a810n . fast as hell(well at least compared to a p4 2.66 and a celly 466mhz) nice for ocing(does 3000+ speeds[1.8ghz] at 1.2V[auto clocks down when idleing]). BTW, ut comes ith a uATX mb so you might want to look out for that. also, the onboard video is almost as bad as a rage pro.

does at least 2.4 at 1.5 default vcore.