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IceBergSLiM

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Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: Marlin1975
Then cash them in your account. They are doing you a service and as such charge for it. How is this a problem?

Why should I have to have a bank account to cash a check? A check is a monetary instrument used as an equivalent to cash. It doesn't say pay to the order of but deduct a fee on the check
it just say pay to the order of.

so the poor guy making minimum wage has to use an hour of labor just to get paid.

No, the poor guy making minimum wage can get a free bank account the same as the rest of us.

yes that way they can con him into using a debit card and start nailing him with over drafts too. brilliant.
 

IceBergSLiM

Lifer
Jul 11, 2000
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Originally posted by: AccruedExpenditure
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: AccruedExpenditure
Wait, so if I deposit my BoA check at another bank will I be charged 6 dollars? If not I don't care.
-AE

just for cashing BOA checks at BOA branches if you don't have a BOA relationship.

In that case get a Checking account
-AE

I can goto a grocery store they only charge 1.50
 

Anubis

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Aug 31, 2001
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Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: Marlin1975
Then cash them in your account. They are doing you a service and as such charge for it. How is this a problem?

Why should I have to have a bank account to cash a check? A check is a monetary instrument used as an equivalent to cash. It doesn't say pay to the order of but deduct a fee on the check
it just say pay to the order of.

so the poor guy making minimum wage has to use an hour of labor just to get paid.

No, the poor guy making minimum wage can get a free bank account the same as the rest of us.

yes that way they can con him into using a debit card and start nailing him with over drafts too. brilliant.

i really dont have an issue with banks taking money (legally) from stupid people
 

EagleKeeper

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Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: Marlin1975
Then cash them in your account. They are doing you a service and as such charge for it. How is this a problem?

Why should I have to have a bank account to cash a check? A check is a monetary instrument used as an equivalent to cash. It doesn't say pay to the order of but deduct a fee on the check
it just say pay to the order of.

so the poor guy making minimum wage has to use an hour of labor just to get paid.

No, the poor guy making minimum wage can get a free bank account the same as the rest of us.

yes that way they can con him into using a debit card and start nailing him with over drafts too. brilliant.

How are you going to get nailed with overdrafts unless you choose to spend more than you have?

 

dainthomas

Lifer
Dec 7, 2004
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Originally posted by: child of wonder
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: Marlin1975
Then cash them in your account. They are doing you a service and as such charge for it. How is this a problem?

Why should I have to have a bank account to cash a check? A check is a monetary instrument used as an equivalent to cash. It doesn't say pay to the order of but deduct a fee on the check
it just say pay to the order of.

so the poor guy making minimum wage has to use an hour of labor just to get paid.

I disagree with these ridiculous bank fees, but what's stopping the minimum wage guy from opening a checking account with any bank and depositing it there?

Maybe the fact that he uses cash only is part of the reason he is a minimum wage guy?

Some homeless guy can't just walk in and open a free checking account. There are certain credit and other criteria if I recall. Therefore if you're a homeless guy who can't open an account and just got a minimum wage job that paid you with a BoA check, then they're charging you an hour's labor to get your money. Nice.

That's why it will always be WAMU or my credit union for me. Banks with fees to just look at a teller can suck it.
 

IceBergSLiM

Lifer
Jul 11, 2000
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Originally posted by: Common Courtesy
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: Marlin1975
Then cash them in your account. They are doing you a service and as such charge for it. How is this a problem?

Why should I have to have a bank account to cash a check? A check is a monetary instrument used as an equivalent to cash. It doesn't say pay to the order of but deduct a fee on the check
it just say pay to the order of.

so the poor guy making minimum wage has to use an hour of labor just to get paid.

No, the poor guy making minimum wage can get a free bank account the same as the rest of us.

yes that way they can con him into using a debit card and start nailing him with over drafts too. brilliant.

How are you going to get nailed with overdrafts unless you choose to spend more than you have?

somebody without a bank account is probably bad with money. They are preying on these people im sure.
 

Anubis

No Lifer
Aug 31, 2001
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Originally posted by: dainthomas
Originally posted by: child of wonder
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: Marlin1975
Then cash them in your account. They are doing you a service and as such charge for it. How is this a problem?

Why should I have to have a bank account to cash a check? A check is a monetary instrument used as an equivalent to cash. It doesn't say pay to the order of but deduct a fee on the check
it just say pay to the order of.

so the poor guy making minimum wage has to use an hour of labor just to get paid.

I disagree with these ridiculous bank fees, but what's stopping the minimum wage guy from opening a checking account with any bank and depositing it there?

Maybe the fact that he uses cash only is part of the reason he is a minimum wage guy?

Some homeless guy can't just walk in and open a free checking account. There are certain credit and other criteria if I recall. Therefore if you're a homeless guy who can't open an account and just got a minimum wage job that paid you with a BoA check, then they're charging you an hour's labor to get your money. Nice.

That's why it will always be WAMU or my credit union for me. Banks with fees to just look at a teller can suck it.


im curious who is writing homeless guys checks? most people give them change
 

IceBergSLiM

Lifer
Jul 11, 2000
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Originally posted by: dainthomas
Originally posted by: child of wonder
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: Marlin1975
Then cash them in your account. They are doing you a service and as such charge for it. How is this a problem?

Why should I have to have a bank account to cash a check? A check is a monetary instrument used as an equivalent to cash. It doesn't say pay to the order of but deduct a fee on the check
it just say pay to the order of.

so the poor guy making minimum wage has to use an hour of labor just to get paid.

I disagree with these ridiculous bank fees, but what's stopping the minimum wage guy from opening a checking account with any bank and depositing it there?

Maybe the fact that he uses cash only is part of the reason he is a minimum wage guy?

Some homeless guy can't just walk in and open a free checking account. There are certain credit and other criteria if I recall. Therefore if you're a homeless guy who can't open an account and just got a minimum wage job that paid you with a BoA check, then they're charging you an hour's labor to get your money. Nice.

That's why it will always be WAMU or my credit union for me. Banks with fees to just look at a teller can suck it.

exactly its just corporate greed that will hurt only the guy thats already hurting.
 

dainthomas

Lifer
Dec 7, 2004
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Originally posted by: Anubis
Originally posted by: dainthomas
Originally posted by: child of wonder
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: Marlin1975
Then cash them in your account. They are doing you a service and as such charge for it. How is this a problem?

Why should I have to have a bank account to cash a check? A check is a monetary instrument used as an equivalent to cash. It doesn't say pay to the order of but deduct a fee on the check
it just say pay to the order of.

so the poor guy making minimum wage has to use an hour of labor just to get paid.

I disagree with these ridiculous bank fees, but what's stopping the minimum wage guy from opening a checking account with any bank and depositing it there?

Maybe the fact that he uses cash only is part of the reason he is a minimum wage guy?

Some homeless guy can't just walk in and open a free checking account. There are certain credit and other criteria if I recall. Therefore if you're a homeless guy who can't open an account and just got a minimum wage job that paid you with a BoA check, then they're charging you an hour's labor to get your money. Nice.

That's why it will always be WAMU or my credit union for me. Banks with fees to just look at a teller can suck it.


im curious who is writing homeless guys checks? most people give them change

Maybe a homeless guy who is trying to become not homeless. No thanks to BoA of course.
 

dmcowen674

No Lifer
Oct 13, 1999
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Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
beginning in September cashing BOA checks issued from a business checking account will cost you $6.00 if you do not have relationship with BOA.

This applies to CT, MA, NH, VT, ME, NY and Delaware.

BOA blazing trails for scammers and thieves everywhere.

Not for long

They will be closing
 

Capt Caveman

Lifer
Jan 30, 2005
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Sorry but just about all banks will either charge you or not even allow you to cash a check with them unless you're an account holder. Surprised BoA hasn't had this requirement sooner.
 

mugs

Lifer
Apr 29, 2003
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Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: Common Courtesy
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: Marlin1975
Then cash them in your account. They are doing you a service and as such charge for it. How is this a problem?

Why should I have to have a bank account to cash a check? A check is a monetary instrument used as an equivalent to cash. It doesn't say pay to the order of but deduct a fee on the check
it just say pay to the order of.

so the poor guy making minimum wage has to use an hour of labor just to get paid.

No, the poor guy making minimum wage can get a free bank account the same as the rest of us.

yes that way they can con him into using a debit card and start nailing him with over drafts too. brilliant.

How are you going to get nailed with overdrafts unless you choose to spend more than you have?

somebody without a bank account is probably bad with money. They are preying on these people im sure.

Maybe that guy should refuse to accept checks that are drawn from BOA accounts. Demand cash. I'm sorry if I really don't care about the financial problems of a guy who can't even manage to have a free bank account without screwing it up. We can't hold everyone's hands, some are going to fall by the wayside. It's nature's way of ensuring the continuation of the species.
 

IceBergSLiM

Lifer
Jul 11, 2000
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Originally posted by: Anubis
Originally posted by: dainthomas
Originally posted by: child of wonder
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: Marlin1975
Then cash them in your account. They are doing you a service and as such charge for it. How is this a problem?

Why should I have to have a bank account to cash a check? A check is a monetary instrument used as an equivalent to cash. It doesn't say pay to the order of but deduct a fee on the check
it just say pay to the order of.

so the poor guy making minimum wage has to use an hour of labor just to get paid.

I disagree with these ridiculous bank fees, but what's stopping the minimum wage guy from opening a checking account with any bank and depositing it there?

Maybe the fact that he uses cash only is part of the reason he is a minimum wage guy?

Some homeless guy can't just walk in and open a free checking account. There are certain credit and other criteria if I recall. Therefore if you're a homeless guy who can't open an account and just got a minimum wage job that paid you with a BoA check, then they're charging you an hour's labor to get your money. Nice.

That's why it will always be WAMU or my credit union for me. Banks with fees to just look at a teller can suck it.


im curious who is writing homeless guys checks? most people give them change

well I don't know they have forclosed millions of homes this year....im sure there are plenty of homeless that found that get paychecks still. Plus people trying to get back on there feet may be staying in shelters. Its very ignorant to assume all people without a home are worthless trash.
 

IceBergSLiM

Lifer
Jul 11, 2000
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Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: Common Courtesy
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: Marlin1975
Then cash them in your account. They are doing you a service and as such charge for it. How is this a problem?

Why should I have to have a bank account to cash a check? A check is a monetary instrument used as an equivalent to cash. It doesn't say pay to the order of but deduct a fee on the check
it just say pay to the order of.

so the poor guy making minimum wage has to use an hour of labor just to get paid.

No, the poor guy making minimum wage can get a free bank account the same as the rest of us.

yes that way they can con him into using a debit card and start nailing him with over drafts too. brilliant.

How are you going to get nailed with overdrafts unless you choose to spend more than you have?

somebody without a bank account is probably bad with money. They are preying on these people im sure.

Maybe that guy should refuse to accept checks that are drawn from BOA accounts. Demand cash. I'm sorry if I really don't care about the financial problems of a guy who can't even manage to have a free bank account without screwing it up. We can't hold everyone's hands, some are going to fall by the wayside. It's nature's way of ensuring the continuation of the species.

cashing someones check with out bending them over is hand holding ......who is the crazy one here?
 

IceBergSLiM

Lifer
Jul 11, 2000
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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
beginning in September cashing BOA checks issued from a business checking account will cost you $6.00 if you do not have relationship with BOA.

This applies to CT, MA, NH, VT, ME, NY and Delaware.

BOA blazing trails for scammers and thieves everywhere.

Not for long

They will be closing

closing what?
 

mugs

Lifer
Apr 29, 2003
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Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: Common Courtesy
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: Marlin1975
Then cash them in your account. They are doing you a service and as such charge for it. How is this a problem?

Why should I have to have a bank account to cash a check? A check is a monetary instrument used as an equivalent to cash. It doesn't say pay to the order of but deduct a fee on the check
it just say pay to the order of.

so the poor guy making minimum wage has to use an hour of labor just to get paid.

No, the poor guy making minimum wage can get a free bank account the same as the rest of us.

yes that way they can con him into using a debit card and start nailing him with over drafts too. brilliant.

How are you going to get nailed with overdrafts unless you choose to spend more than you have?

somebody without a bank account is probably bad with money. They are preying on these people im sure.

Maybe that guy should refuse to accept checks that are drawn from BOA accounts. Demand cash. I'm sorry if I really don't care about the financial problems of a guy who can't even manage to have a free bank account without screwing it up. We can't hold everyone's hands, some are going to fall by the wayside. It's nature's way of ensuring the continuation of the species.

cashing someones check with out bending them over is hand holding ......who is the crazy one here?

Charging someone $0 to open a bank account is not bending them over.
 

IceBergSLiM

Lifer
Jul 11, 2000
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Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Sorry but just about all banks will either charge you or not even allow you to cash a check with them unless you're an account holder. Surprised BoA hasn't had this requirement sooner.

I have never heard of this. Proof? I cashed personal and paychecks at many different banks in my state. never an issue.
 

crystal

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Nov 5, 1999
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Are you guys saying everyone can get a free checking account? Even the homeless guy with no know address and bad credit? Anyway, $6 to process a check is pretty excessive.
 

coremortality

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This is honestly not much of a surprise to me as someone who has worked in the banking industry. I find it disgusting that they can get away with screwing the public like this.

The tactic is, as others have pointed out, a move by BOA to try and keep funds with in the bank and to also squeeze people for as much money as they can get away with.

As to "why would a homeless guy have a check" comment. Many state governments offer programs and funding to try and assist the homeless and mentally ill, and some of these programs are in the form of a monthly stipend.

Also, in order to open a checking account at any institution it is federal law that the individual is required to have two forms of ID (SS Card doesn't count as ID) so if someone was homeless they would need a State ID and their birth certificate because they more than likely do not have a Credit Card or any other accepted form of ID.

There are plenty of legitimate reasons to NOT have a checking account or want one. One such reason would be that many banks and credit unions (BOA especially) will close peoples accounts for overdrawing their accounts as little as two times. Once the accounts are closed the customer is reported to a "check fraud prevention" agency which then reports the closure to all other major financial institutions, there by screwing the customer from getting any sort of account for as little as 2 years to as many as 7.

The more you know.

EDIT: Couple of things I forgot.

In addition to 2 forms of ID a person is required to have a permanent non-P.O. Box address AND phone number in order to open any sort of financial account. This is Federal Law.

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Sorry but just about all banks will either charge you or not even allow you to cash a check with them unless you're an account holder. Surprised BoA hasn't had this requirement sooner.

This isn't entirely true. Banks can charge you for cashing a check that does not originate within the same bank because they have no way to verify if the funds are available or if the account is even open so they take a major risk by cashing it.

If the check originated from the bank but the person who wants to cash it doesn't have an account with that bank, the bank should just issue the cash because they are able to verify if cash is available. If they charge you then they're crooks.
 

Ns1

No Lifer
Jun 17, 2001
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Originally posted by: crystal
Are you guys saying everyone can get a free checking account? Even the homeless guy with no know address and bad credit? Anyway, $6 to process a check is pretty excessive.

I don't see how bad credit will affect your ability to open up a bank account, unless you've been bananated by chexsystems.
 

Anubis

No Lifer
Aug 31, 2001
78,712
427
126
tbqhwy.com
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Sorry but just about all banks will either charge you or not even allow you to cash a check with them unless you're an account holder. Surprised BoA hasn't had this requirement sooner.

I have never heard of this. Proof? I cashed personal and paychecks at many different banks in my state. never an issue.

ive never seen a bank cash a check for someone who did not have an accnt with them
this was i assumed common knowledge.
 

IceBergSLiM

Lifer
Jul 11, 2000
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Originally posted by: coremortality
This is honestly not much of a surprise to me as someone who has worked in the banking industry. I find it disgusting that they can get away with screwing the public like this.

The tactic is, as others have pointed out, a move by BOA to try and keep funds with in the bank and to also squeeze people for as much money as they can get away with.

As to "why would a homeless guy have a check" comment. Many state governments offer programs and funding to try and assist the homeless and mentally ill, and some of these programs are in the form of a monthly stipend.

Also, in order to open a checking account at any institution it is federal law that the individual is required to have two forms of ID (SS Card doesn't count as ID) so if someone was homeless they would need a State ID and their birth certificate because they more than likely do not have a Credit Card or any other accepted form of ID.

There are plenty of legitimate reasons to NOT have a checking account or want one. One such reason would be that many banks and credit unions (BOA especially) will close peoples accounts for overdrawing their accounts as little as two times. Once the accounts are closed the customer is reported to a "check fraud prevention" agency which then reports the closure to all other major financial institutions, there by screwing the customer from getting any sort of account for as little as 2 years to as many as 7.

The more you know.

awesome. thanks.