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zixxer

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lets say you are given an offer.. say "xx amount is what we are paying for the position based on duties, etc etc"


what is a polite way of saying you want the job, but feel as though xx amount is unreasonable..?
 
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if the offer is too low for you, i wouldn't even bother with it if i were you. think about it, if they do give you what you think is reasonable, then there is probably not much room for a raise?
 
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her209

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"Excuse me. I just took a crap and need to wipe my ass with this $100 bill."
 
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Originally posted by: armatron
lets say you are given an offer.. say "xx amount is what we are paying for the position based on duties, etc etc"


what is a polite way of saying you want the job, but feel as though xx amount is unreasonable..?
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have you taken into account other benefits that might be included? that might make the offer more reasonable when factoring in benefits
 
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KarenMarie

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Stand up.. extend a handshake and say....

" Thank you for the offer but that does not meet my salary requirements. I am very serious about this position and hope that salary and benefits are open to negotiation. Please let me know. "...
 
Rumpltzer

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I'm told you should ALWAYS ask for more money no matter what the offer is. ALWAYS.

I did it. It didn't get me anything, but I did it.

What I said was something along the lines of, "The offer is very attractive. The most appealing part of the offer is the JOB. The salary offer, though, is a little lower than I expected." If something isn't counter-offered at this point, then ask for some time to think it over, talk with the SO, etc. and see what happens during the waiting period.

They now know you're interested in the job but that the salary is a sticking point. Maybe they'll give, and maybe they won't. It then comes down to what you really want.
 
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mAdMaLuDaWg

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A couple of ways. Try something like this:
"Thank you for the offer. However, I am expecting a salary this is consumerate with my skills and responsibilities of the job and I expect $xxx." (the verbage used is extremely important... do not say I hope or I'd like, use I expect... gives them less wiggle room and shows you are confident)
They might offer you a slightly higher salary. Usually, they would say that they need to get back to you about it and this shows that they have the room to negotiate but need to think it over. If they flat out say no and you are really desperate for the job then say something like this: "Well, although I'm a little bit disappointed with the offer, I'm really interested in the job. I'd like a performance/salary review after 4-5 months on the job." Make sure you get this in writing and if you are confident about you skills, you should have no problems getting the raise. They usually are more open to this idea but use it as a last resort because you have greatest leverage BEFORE you sign on to a job.
 
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tm37

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"If that is all the money I can make here I am go to blow homeless guys in the park because that way I will at least have my dignity"
 
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shud

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"Bitch that ain't enough paper to buy Hennessey and support my Special K addiction."
 
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cjgallen

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Originally posted by: tm37
"If that is all the money I can make here I am go to blow homeless guys in the park because that way I will at least have my dignity"
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:laugh:
 
Scarpozzi

Scarpozzi

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Originally posted by: tm37
"If that is all the money I can make here I am go to blow homeless guys in the park because that way I will at least have my dignity"
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Which park do you frequent?
 
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jlmadyson

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Here is an interesting little story about my wife and job offers.

She got an offer for 38k out of college; the company told her if she didn't agree to the salary to put in a counter offer, so she did, at 42. Well, they turned that down, so she thought no worries I'll never have to deal with these folks again. A year later, they call her and basically offer her a position for 45, she didn't even call back. They call back again 2-3 months later and she says 50-55, well once again they wouldn't go for it. In late May of this year she starts putting her resume out again and the company still wants to interview her but somehow never makes time for her and she gets offered a job for approximately 50 a year plus 5 in moving expenses. Keep in mind we live about 350 miles from the area where she is putting her resume out during this time. So she gets an email last week from the original company and she tells them she has been hired in the area. The HR lady emails her back and tells her that when she gets down there they should have lunch. Funny stuff.

Moral of the story, stick to your guns when you know you should.
 
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irwincur

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What is the job for and is it your first job out of college? If it is, realize that you will almost never get what you think you are worth - because you are in essense worth nothing. If it is not a job out of school and you have the experience/education required, bargain with them. If they are firm, politely tell them that you must decline the offer.

I always find it funny when kids think they will be making 50K right after leaving school. Maybe in a few rare cases. Getting experience in the real world, even at lower pay is usually worth it in the long run.
 
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Argo

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Originally posted by: SagaLore
Originally posted by: notfred
"Sorry, but that salary doesn't meet my requirements, thanks for your time."
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Exactly.
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That answer doesn't give them a chance to counteroffer. I'd say instead: "Thank you for your offer, but I'm pretty firm on my initial request for XX per year"
 
Kelemvor

Kelemvor

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Originally posted by: notfred
"Sorry, but that salary doesn't meet my requirements, thanks for your time."
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Only do that if you don't want a response of a higher offer...

I'd just word something like...

THe position sounds great but based on my X years of previous experience, the offered salary isn't as high as I was expecting. Is there any room for negotiation on that?"

Or something like that,. You don't want to be rude but give them the opportunity to make you an offer back. You could even suggest an amount and see what they come back with. If they can't raise it then they can't but it doesn't hurt to atl east ask.
 
Kelemvor

Kelemvor

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Originally posted by: Rumpltzer
I'm told you should ALWAYS ask for more money no matter what the offer is. ALWAYS.

I did it. It didn't get me anything, but I did it.

What I said was something along the lines of, "The offer is very attractive. The most appealing part of the offer is the JOB. The salary offer, though, is a little lower than I expected." If something isn't counter-offered at this point, then ask for some time to think it over, talk with the SO, etc. and see what happens during the waiting period.

They now know you're interested in the job but that the salary is a sticking point. Maybe they'll give, and maybe they won't. It then comes down to what you really want.
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I did that once and was told... "No, the slary isn't negotiatble, thanks for your interested" and they offered the position to someone else... So NO, don't alway ask for more... unless you know they really want you and have no other people interested. If it meets your expectations, take it and negotiate for a raise during your review. THen you're already employed...

But I got a different job right after that one was pulled from me so I didn't really care. heh.
 
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HonkeyDonk

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Originally posted by: jlmadyson
Here is an interesting little story about my wife and job offers.

She got an offer for 38k out of college; the company told her if she didn't agree to the salary to put in a counter offer, so she did, at 42. Well, they turned that down, so she thought no worries I'll never have to deal with these folks again. A year later, they call her and basically offer her a position for 45, she didn't even call back. They call back again 2-3 months later and she says 50-55, well once again they wouldn't go for it. In late May of this year she starts putting her resume out again and the company still wants to interview her but somehow never makes time for her and she gets offered a job for approximately 50 a year plus 5 in moving expenses. Keep in mind we live about 350 miles from the area where she is putting her resume out during this time. So she gets an email last week from the original company and she tells them she has been hired in the area. The HR lady emails her back and tells her that when she gets down there they should have lunch. Funny stuff.

Moral of the story, stick to your guns when you know you should.
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Not funny and very anti-climactic.
 
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