When a company looses $5 Billion, where does it go

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andy04

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Its something like...
we dont make anything is US get everything from China... so if we dont manufacture anything we dont have jobs but we still keep buying... no jobs but people still buy... no income but still send money to China... we dont sell them anything coz they close their doors to import...
just keep watching GM what eventually happens to them will happen to US(USA/us) !!!
 

Electric Amish

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They are just like everyone else. When they sit down on their giant corporate couch, sometime money falls out of their pockets and under the couch cushions.
 

ViviTheMage

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madgenius.com
Originally posted by: Turin39789
Originally posted by: mb
Originally posted by: JohnCU
Originally posted by: tranceport
Originally posted by: mjuszczak
Let me tell you - I wish people could spell.

One person cannot spell and we have to point it out?

Such is the responsibility of ATOT.

Err what's going on here?

So, they spend more than they make, but they have 399999999 billion in the bank so they last a little while longer

:thumbsup:
 

manly

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Originally posted by: andy04
Its something like...
we dont make anything is US get everything from China... so if we dont manufacture anything we dont have jobs but we still keep buying... no jobs but people still buy... no income but still send money to China... we dont sell them anything coz they close their doors to import...
just keep watching GM what eventually happens to them will happen to US(USA/us) !!!
What's a troll in a cave doing with a PC assembled from foreign components?
 

randay

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May 30, 2006
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Originally posted by: Turin39789
Originally posted by: mb
Originally posted by: JohnCU
Originally posted by: tranceport
Originally posted by: mjuszczak
Let me tell you - I wish people could spell.

One person cannot spell and we have to point it out?

Such is the responsibility of ATOT.

Err what's going on here?

So, they spend more than they make, but they have 399999999 billion in the bank so they last a little while longer

Some people can't spell, whats the big deal?
 

andy04

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Originally posted by: manly
Originally posted by: andy04
Its something like...
we dont make anything is US get everything from China... so if we dont manufacture anything we dont have jobs but we still keep buying... no jobs but people still buy... no income but still send money to China... we dont sell them anything coz they close their doors to import...
just keep watching GM what eventually happens to them will happen to US(USA/us) !!!
What's a troll in a cave doing with a PC assembled from foreign components?

not troll - analogy, dork
 

GasX

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Originally posted by: andy04
Originally posted by: manly
Originally posted by: andy04
Its something like...
we dont make anything is US get everything from China... so if we dont manufacture anything we dont have jobs but we still keep buying... no jobs but people still buy... no income but still send money to China... we dont sell them anything coz they close their doors to import...
just keep watching GM what eventually happens to them will happen to US(USA/us) !!!
What's a troll in a cave doing with a PC assembled from foreign components?

not troll - analogy, dork

not analogy - gibberish, cretin
 

andy04

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Originally posted by: Mwilding
Originally posted by: andy04
Originally posted by: manly
Originally posted by: andy04
Its something like...
we dont make anything is US get everything from China... so if we dont manufacture anything we dont have jobs but we still keep buying... no jobs but people still buy... no income but still send money to China... we dont sell them anything coz they close their doors to import...
just keep watching GM what eventually happens to them will happen to US(USA/us) !!!
What's a troll in a cave doing with a PC assembled from foreign components?

not troll - analogy, dork

not analogy - gibberish, cretin

nope; prudent, sagacious
 

GasX

Lifer
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Originally posted by: andy04
Originally posted by: Mwilding
Originally posted by: andy04
Originally posted by: manly
Originally posted by: andy04
Its something like...
we dont make anything is US get everything from China... so if we dont manufacture anything we dont have jobs but we still keep buying... no jobs but people still buy... no income but still send money to China... we dont sell them anything coz they close their doors to import...
just keep watching GM what eventually happens to them will happen to US(USA/us) !!!
What's a troll in a cave doing with a PC assembled from foreign components?

not troll - analogy, dork

not analogy - gibberish, cretin

nope; prudent, sagacious
Your blathering qualifies neither as prudent nor sagacious. Immaterial and extraneous are more apropos.
 

andy04

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Originally posted by: Mwilding
Originally posted by: andy04
Originally posted by: Mwilding
Originally posted by: andy04
Originally posted by: manly
Originally posted by: andy04
Its something like...
we dont make anything is US get everything from China... so if we dont manufacture anything we dont have jobs but we still keep buying... no jobs but people still buy... no income but still send money to China... we dont sell them anything coz they close their doors to import...
just keep watching GM what eventually happens to them will happen to US(USA/us) !!!
What's a troll in a cave doing with a PC assembled from foreign components?

not troll - analogy, dork

not analogy - gibberish, cretin

nope; prudent, sagacious
Your blathering qualifies neither as prudent nor sagacious. Immaterial and extraneous are more apropos.

i dont like you
 

BoomerD

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Originally posted by: andy04
Originally posted by: Mwilding
Originally posted by: andy04
Originally posted by: Mwilding
Originally posted by: andy04
Originally posted by: manly
Originally posted by: andy04
Its something like...
we dont make anything is US get everything from China... so if we dont manufacture anything we dont have jobs but we still keep buying... no jobs but people still buy... no income but still send money to China... we dont sell them anything coz they close their doors to import...
just keep watching GM what eventually happens to them will happen to US(USA/us) !!!
What's a troll in a cave doing with a PC assembled from foreign components?

not troll - analogy, dork

not analogy - gibberish, cretin

nope; prudent, sagacious
Your blathering qualifies neither as prudent nor sagacious. Immaterial and extraneous are more apropos.

i dont like you



Andy, you gotta learn...you're NOT permitted to say bad things about those fine Chinese nor their business practices...even if they are true...

So if a company looses lots of moneys, should they just tightens up their wallets?
 

yhelothar

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Originally posted by: Gothgar
Originally posted by: isekii
Jerry: So, we're going to make the post office pay for my new stereo now?
Kramer: It's a write-off for them.
Jerry: How is it a write-off?
Kramer: They just write it off.
Jerry: Write it off what?
Kramer: Jerry, all these big companies, they write off everything.
Jerry: You don't even know what a write-off is.
Kramer: Do you?
Jerry: No, I don't!
Kramer: But they do. And they're the ones writing it off.
Jerry: I wish I had the last twenty seconds of my life back.

win forever, hahaha love that scene

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCZRqH7sRyA
quick google
 

andy04

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Originally posted by: BoomerD
Originally posted by: andy04
Originally posted by: Mwilding
Originally posted by: andy04
Originally posted by: Mwilding
Originally posted by: andy04
Originally posted by: manly
Originally posted by: andy04
Its something like...
we dont make anything is US get everything from China... so if we dont manufacture anything we dont have jobs but we still keep buying... no jobs but people still buy... no income but still send money to China... we dont sell them anything coz they close their doors to import...
just keep watching GM what eventually happens to them will happen to US(USA/us) !!!
What's a troll in a cave doing with a PC assembled from foreign components?

not troll - analogy, dork

not analogy - gibberish, cretin

nope; prudent, sagacious
Your blathering qualifies neither as prudent nor sagacious. Immaterial and extraneous are more apropos.

i dont like you



Andy, you gotta learn...you're NOT permitted to say bad things about those fine Chinese nor their business practices...even if they are true...

So if a company looses lots of moneys, should they just tightens up their wallets?

Chinese Wallet :beer:

*** sorry couldnt resist trolling :evil: - end of Troll ***

 

Kenazo

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Originally posted by: Injury
Originally posted by: thatsright
Originally posted by: BrownTown
ITs not that complicated, you spend $20,000 to make a car and only sell it for $18,000, then repeat that a million times and your set... :p

Ok, but if a company losses $5 Billion over the course of 13 weeks, ANY company would shut down and fold quickly. How can a company stay open while this is going on?

You have to consider that the net gain/loss over a longer period of time. In one quarter, a company may spend 10 billion in production costs building these cars. Now, just because they built the cars doesn't mean they sell the second they roll off the assembly line, right? Sometimes they can sit on a car lot for a few months before they sell.

In accounting, a transaction occurs when the expense or income is made, NOT when it balances out. So let's say the car company spends 3 months (or one financial quarter [Q1]) building these cars at the cost of $5B and sending them to dealerships. The expenditure is $5B. That is owed to the people who built it and the parts suppliers immediately, regardless of whether the cars sell or not. It's not their problem after they do what they were paid to do. So the company is now down $5B, but they have the cars as assets. Now, say the profit on these cars is 150% of cost and by Q2 they are ready to sell. Over the span of Q2, Q3, & Q4 the cars sell out. let's say they sell 1/3 of the total yearly stock every quarter.

Q1 = -$5B
Q2 = +2.5B
Q3 = +2.5B
Q4 = +2.5B

Financial year ends at +$2.5B. They reported a loss of 5 Billion in one quarter, but their profits from their investment in the remaining 3 quarters bounced it above and beyond.

Now, realistically speaking, it won't be this ideal and some deals a company makes can take a decade before they pay for themselves (If they even do.)

You could also bring in the scenario that halfway through the year, the demand for the car went down and in Q3 & Q4 the expected profit was only 125% of cost and such. It's still above their goal but it's not what was expected. It can also go lower than that like many trucks/SUVs are now where they have to sell them off breaking even or at a loss just to avoid having a depreciating asset sitting around. Because a year or two from now they want people looking at their most recent line of vehicles instead of last year's vehicle at the same price.

To answer your question directly, the original money (capitol) probably came from a loan backed by the company's assets and/or portions of money already in the bank from a previous revenue stream.

It's also entirely possible that the company just flat out became worth less as a whole. A big company like ford or GM is probably worth a few hundred billion. So while 5 Billion is losses might seem like an insane amount of money to lose it's not as much to company worth much more than that. (Although I think it would still be cause for concern)

Are you telling me they recognize the cash outflows put into making their inventory for accounting purposes immediately? Surely a company the size of GM would do things on an accrual basis.

On a cashflow basis they might have had a $5B decrease but without huge asset writedowns or something a $5B loss in unfathomable.