Wheelchair bound man starts on fire while smoking, dies.

[zinfamous]

The right to bear arms is a personal right so a well regulated militia can exist when/if need be.

the only effective thing that your pathetic, incompetent self will likely ever do with a gun is to shoot yourself in the dick.

 

[SlowSpyder]

I mean I would crush your skull in a vice but then the blood spraying on everything isn't fair to whoever has to clean it up.

I don't understand the purpose of this post. Did you threaten to murder me in a vice? Yikes man.

 

[mect]

I don't think anything should be done, people are free to make their own decisions. It isn't a secret that if you smoke there could be negative consequences. Likewise, it isn't a secret that if one puts a loaded gun to their head and pulls the trigger, there probably will be negative consequences to that person's health.

Thank you for admitting you're just concern trolling.

 

[mect]

So, we've done what we could and ~500,000 still die per year. So now we drop it and live with that. Now, what is important, is a laser focus on guns that kill some ~12,000/year to homicides and accidents and another ~23,000/year to suicide. That less than 10% as many as tobacco, we need to reduce rights, ignore the constitution, and do away with due process to improve? But that much bigger killer? Well, we did what we could.

No, we don't drop it. Who has said drop it? We continue doing what we find to be effective, and carefully consider additional actions. We know a drug war is ineffective, so we don't just try to completely criminalize it. We continue with information campaigning. We try to keep cigarettes out of the hands of youth. We prohibit smoking in more and more public places, particularly playgrounds. These efforts just aren't as visible because the vast majority of the country doesn't feel threatened by these actions. Even smokers generally agree with them. Look at the changes in smoking compared to 20 years ago. There is a significant difference in terms of actions that have been taken. 20 years ago and every bowling ally you went to was filled with cigarette smoke. Now days its almost unheard of to be able to smoke indoors in a public place. Compare that to firearms, where almost nothing has happened. And you try to insinuate that smoking is being ignored.

 

[dainthomas]

The right to bear arms is a personal right so a well regulated militia can exist when/if need be.

A single hellfire from a drone could easily take out dozens of militia whackos with their pea-shooters in whatever compound they're hiding in. If a government and its modern military wants to kill/oppress you, ain't a lot you're going to do about it.

 

[SlowSpyder]

A single hellfire from a drone could easily take out dozens of militia whackos with their pea-shooters in whatever compound they're hiding in. If a government and its modern military wants to kill/oppress you, ain't a lot you're going to do about it.

That's why we were in and out of the middle east, "MISSION ACCOMPLISHED," in a few weeks, right? People with guns don't stand a chance against modern military weaponry...

 

[umbrella39]

REPOST

 

[dainthomas]

That's why we were in and out of the middle east, "MISSION ACCOMPLISHED," in a few weeks, right? People with guns don't stand a chance against modern military weaponry...

With rules of engagement. That would promptly be thrown out the window during a full-scale insurrection. Picture General Sherman with access to tanks and missiles.

 

[SlowSpyder]

With rules of engagement. That would promptly be thrown out the window during a full-scale insurrection. Picture General Sherman with access to tanks and missiles.

You're also talking about a situation where Americans are battling Americans, there could be some reluctance for a soldier to drop bombs on his home town. I don't believe it'd be as easy as many here seem to think. But, it doesn't matter how you or I think it would play out, the point is the 2A right is there exactly for this reason.

 

[Moonbeam]

Can't really do anything about smoking because smokers are armed. When the 2nd amendment gets repealed, we will be able to outlaw smoking.

 

[JSt0rm]

You're also talking about a situation where Americans are battling Americans, there could be some reluctance for a soldier to drop bombs on his home town. I don't believe it'd be as easy as many here seem to think. But, it doesn't matter how you or I think it would play out, the point is the 2A right is there exactly for this reason.

We solve our issues with voting not violence you pants shitting retard.

 

[SlowSpyder]

We solve our issues with voting not violence you pants shitting retard.

I don't think you understand the context of that particular side discussion...

 

[JSt0rm]

I don't think you understand the context of that particular side discussion...

yes I do. If you and a bunch of other numskulls think they are being oppressed by liberals you will pick up weapons and become violent.

 

[JSt0rm]

the reality is your dumb little insurrection will be put down by the local swat team.

 

[Oyeve]

And the people who have to breath in that persons smoke? What about them?

What about the cars, factories, ships, planes.....I could go on and on. Those all contribute to cancers that many think is due to second hand tobacco smoke.

 

[JSt0rm]

What about the cars, factories, ships, planes.....I could go on and on. Those all contribute to cancers that many think is due to second hand tobacco smoke.

Are you saying that second hand smoke is being blamed for deaths that aren’t from second hand smoke? Do you have anything to back that up?

 

[Oyeve]

Are you saying that second hand smoke is being blamed for deaths that aren’t from second hand smoke? Do you have anything to back that up?

No, I am saying the mentioned things are just as harmful yet nothing is really being done.

 

[darkswordsman17]

Oh look, time for the chorus:
"Oh my god. This is terrible. This is the end of my presidency. I'm fucked."

https://www.google.com/search?q=ant...rome..69i57.5479j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

You don't hear about it because we are already doing a ton to combat smoking. We've picked all the low hanging fruit. Propose an idea to combat smoking. I doubt you'll get push back on it. It is possible to work on two problems at once.

I disagree. We need to clamp our domestic companies that push their smoking shit overseas. That's what they've done (and why they've stopped freaking out as much, they've gotten a lot of the rest of the world hooked on their shit now, and they've been much more successful in preventing governments elsewhere to not do a damn thing about it).

https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/pmi-who-fctc/

Oh, also this type of shit:
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/24/health/tobacco-social-media-smoking.html

 

[pmv]

That's why we were in and out of the middle east, "MISSION ACCOMPLISHED," in a few weeks, right? People with guns don't stand a chance against modern military weaponry...

There's a bit of a difference between taking on a foreign invader (who doesn't really want to be there anyway) and trying to fight your own government. So not sure what point you think you are making.

 

[nickqt]

I'm pro-2A because when the time comes, it's going to take guns to kill all the fascists. Because it always does.

That said, I'm not a gun fetishist.

 

[soulcougher73]

In America smoking kills far more in a single year than all gun-related deaths combined over the course of an entire decade. Why aren't anti-2A politicians more obsessed with this MUCH bigger killer that affects minorities and the poor disproportionately? This guy in particular burst into flames while smoking... yikes.

Gives new meaning to "smoking."

https://www.foxnews.com/us/ohio-man...ching-fire-while-smoking-outside-nursing-home

Maybe the right should get on this. It is clearly dangerous and concerning to you. Why force the left to do what you care about?

 

[soulcougher73]

That's why we were in and out of the middle east, "MISSION ACCOMPLISHED," in a few weeks, right? People with guns don't stand a chance against modern military weaponry...

I seem to recall Saddam getting steamrolled in a few days by modern military weaponry. And he had an actual army more equipped than conservotards with rifles.

 

[soundforbjt]

In America smoking kills far more in a single year than all gun-related deaths combined over the course of an entire decade. Why aren't anti-2A politicians more obsessed with this MUCH bigger killer that affects minorities and the poor disproportionately? This guy in particular burst into flames while smoking... yikes.

Gives new meaning to "smoking."

https://www.foxnews.com/us/ohio-man...ching-fire-while-smoking-outside-nursing-home

Maybe you should be railing against the leaders of the southern states that grow and support tobacco instead of just complaining about anti-2A politicians...oh wait, they're republicans, now I understand.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Too soon?

 

[SlowSpyder]

I seem to recall Saddam getting steamrolled in a few days by modern military weaponry. And he had an actual army more equipped than conservotards with rifles.

1) An armed populace fighting for what they believe in is not the same as an army forced to fight at the will of a dictator they're probably scared of.

2) I cited examples of people being able to fight with light weaponry compared to mighty America. You've posted an example of the American military rolling over a weaker enemy. That doesn't mean it can't happen, as it did happen in other examples.

3) How do you think things might have been different if instead of America fighting Iraq, it was other Iraqis having to bomb their home towns?