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What's your total electric bill cost compared to your billed rate ($/kWh)?

destrekor

Lifer
e.g. you are charged $0.06/kWh, but after other charges it is as if you paid $0.12/kWh

Because that's basically what my bill is. And I think this is perhaps a wee bit odd but likely normal. I've never asked before because I always thought it was kind of a "well duh" question -- and it likely remains that way -- but I got to thinking about it again.
 
Ugh Hydro One changed their account website, and it sucks. Way too much javascript BS going on. Half the time the pages don't load and I have to spam refresh to get it to load fully.

To answer your question, too freaking much. Even if you don't use much Hydro you still end up paying a lot due to all the fixed fees. They did finally remove the debt retirement charge though, that was retarded to pay that.

The rates go up every year too.

Here's my latest bill:

 
I don't have any major fixed charges. There are a couple for a few dollars each and that's it. But my marginal rate for electricity (tiered structure based on usage) is 17.8 cents per kwhr.
 
Mine just charges the rate other than some extremely small fees (under $1 total) and 5% tax.

The rate however is $0.199/kWh for the first 10.1 kWh/day, then $0.276 above that. Pretty sure there's a tier 3 as well, thankfully haven't hit that.
 
Ugh Hydro One changed their account website, and it sucks. Way too much javascript BS going on. Half the time the pages don't load and I have to spam refresh to get it to load fully.

To answer your question, too freaking much. Even if you don't use much Hydro you still end up paying a lot due to all the fixed fees. They did finally remove the debt retirement charge though, that was retarded to pay that.

The rates go up every year too.

Here's my latest bill:


That's what I was hoping to see more of. As you see, the "delivery" charge is close to the usage charge. And the delivery charge seems to scale almost exactly like the consumption charge. Same situation here.
 
1285 kWh @ $0.10476/kWh plus a $11.83 service charge and a "Fuel Cost Adjustment" of $1.90. Not bad for cooling a 2,600 ft^2 house in August and all of my car fuel cost for a total of $146.45. The $11.83 doesn't scale at all. The "Fuel Cost Adjustment" does, but is usually $1-2. It has been as high at $5.70 though.
 
Can't remember the exact rate but the last electric bill was about $95. It is hot and humid here during the summer so the AC was on full blast.
 
That's what I was hoping to see more of. As you see, the "delivery" charge is close to the usage charge. And the delivery charge seems to scale almost exactly like the consumption charge. Same situation here.
When I used to pay my electric bill, it was like that. My charged rate was around $0.075 - $0.08 / kWh, but my end effective rate was much closer to $0.15 - $0.16 / kWh.

I wasn't on a tiered plan, some months I would use 1MW+, my bill was $220+ or something fairly high.
 
That's what I was hoping to see more of. As you see, the "delivery" charge is close to the usage charge. And the delivery charge seems to scale almost exactly like the consumption charge. Same situation here.
Mine's broken down into delivery and usage too, both of with have multiple tiers. But I just lump those together since they're both variable. I thought you wanted to know about fixed charges. I guess in theory delivery charges are fixed but they're billed as variable.
 
I have tracked my bill for years on a spread sheet. The last entry is the actual cost per KW. Since 2012 The cost has varied from $0.098777 to $0.130160 last month. All charges including taxes
 
It looks like mine's $.08/Kwh and there's a $0.055/Kwh distribution charge. This was for 22-Jul to 21-Aug and the 244 Kwh is from an actual meter reading, not projected:

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It looks like mine's $.08/Kwh and there's a $0.055/Kwh distribution charge. This was for 22-Jul to 21-Aug and the 244 Kwh is from an actual meter reading, not projected:

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I think my PC uses more power than that. I used approximately 10 times more power than that last month.
 
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Delivery charges have some fixed (.024 / day, .00549 / kWh) and some variable based on usage.
Generation is all variable based on usage
Then taxes of 5% local and .00029 / kWh state

Total effective rate is around 17.45 cents per kWh.
 
I think my PC uses more power than that. I used approximately 10 times more power than that last month.
You probably have a family or something though; I'm a single dude. I turn my PC on (not always, but generally) around 8 PM and it's on from then until maybe 12:30 AM at the latest. My 55" TV is on about the same time. This is M-F; the weekends are more. I also have a security cam that's always on but that must hardly take any juice.

But I don't turn on lights unless I really need to and don't needlessly waste electricity too.
 
You probably have a family or something though; I'm a single dude. I turn my PC on (not always, but generally) around 8 PM and it's on from then until maybe 12:30 AM at the latest. My 55" TV is on about the same time. This is M-F; the weekends are more. I also have a security cam that's always on but that must hardly take any juice.

But I don't turn on lights unless I really need to and don't needlessly waste electricity too.

I'm a single dude, living alone, and was billed for 1400kWh last month! lol but I'm on the extreme end, my place is 100% electric, so all cooking I do other than grilling outside requires electricity, same with clothes dryer, water heater, etc. Also furnace but right now it's still AC season (or open windows). And I make a point to try and save energy! 😀

But seriously, I know where my power draw is: computer currently left on all the time so I can I work on things remotely; and, a server rack with two servers and various network equipment. Also, it's a 40+ year old AC and separate equally as old electric furnace. That will be replaced with a heat pump in the near future. But still, it looks like my homelab alone may account for about 250 kWh alone. lol
More often than not, my AC never gets a break in the summer, even trying to keep it to, say, 74-76F when I'm home, and about 80F when away.
 
Yeah, a lot of it is tied to your water heater and dryer. Unfortunately, ours are both electric right now.

Every state is widely different as far as billing structure.
 
22 euro cents per kWh.

Electricity itself: 6 cents
Special energy tax: 12 cents
Value Added Tax (VAT): 3.5 cents

When I heated my water with electricity (boiler) my monthly electricity bill was ~100 euros. Now that I heat my water with natural gas, my electricity bill dropped to 60 euros.

Ask me about my natural gas bill. :/ I think it's over 200 euros per month now. That's averaged out over the year of course, because usage during winter (heat the house) is completely different from usage during summer (only heat water).
 
22 euro cents per kWh.

Electricity itself: 6 cents
Special energy tax: 12 cents
Value Added Tax (VAT): 3.5 cents

When I heated my water with electricity (boiler) my monthly electricity bill was ~100 euros. Now that I heat my water with natural gas, my electricity bill dropped to 60 euros.

Ask me about my natural gas bill. :/ I think it's over 200 euros per month now. That's averaged out over the year of course, because usage during winter (heat the house) is completely different from usage during summer (only heat water).
Ouch - I didn't realize gas was that expensive for you guys.

My gas bill is around $20 USD per month, which runs a stove and gas clothes dryer. The building (4 units) use a single hot water system that is paid for by the building owner.
 
I pay around $100/mo in gas though I'm on equal billing. In summer it tends to go much lower since the only thing I use gas for in summer is for the water heater and the oddball day I might need to run the furnace. What's funny is that my water bill is more expensive than my gas bill because it goes up every year. The water bill is fixed and is based on number of rooms in the house, which is retarded. According to the city this house has 5 rooms. I think they count living room, kitchen etc as rooms too.

My electricity usage is kinda high for a single person but it's something I kinda accept because of my server room, and I like to keep my computer on. The gaming machine is what actually uses the most power because of the add-on video card so I try to not leave it on but I often end up leaving it on anyway. The servers actually don't use that much as the Supermicro stuff is actually really efficient. Most boxes run at under 100w. Even my storage server. I eventually want to setup solar panels for the servers though. Would at least reduce the power usage. Would run a few outlets throughout the house too. Could put TV and stuff on it too, maybe even the fridge.
 
I have no clue. I just pay it because I need power. I don't waste power and try to make a conscious effort to turn off lights and stuff that I'm not using, but I am not trying to sacrifice comfort in my home in order to save a few bucks on electricity like I know some people do.
 
I have no clue. I just pay it because I need power. I don't waste power and try to make a conscious effort to turn off lights and stuff that I'm not using, but I am not trying to sacrifice comfort in my home in order to save a few bucks on electricity like I know some people do.

Yeah my conscious effort basically involves LED lighting everywhere (mostly Hue), a smart/programmable thermostat. Much of my lighting is fairly automated, with motion-activation (and turning off after time), schedules, and geolocation. And I plan to incorporate far more things using HomeAssistant compared to what I've been able to accomplish with the current apps. But I'll still leave my computer on 24/7 (to be addressed once complete VPN and remote access solutions are nailed down), I have the server rack, and because they are LED I tend to leave certain lights on because I'll be in and out often.

A big one that I tended to mess up with was the halogen light fixture (bathroom vanity). When it basically died (both bulbs), I first tried new bulbs. And they were a stupid type/size, so selection was pitiful for LED, way too weak. Alas, new bulbs didn't fix the lack of light when the switch was flipped to on. That was maddening. And that's also I found what that, while I liked the lighting, I didn't like that it was 300w worth of Halogen (150w bulbs). Once I learned that, and fixing it looked to be impossible and/or not worthwhile due to the high wattage in the first place, I decided to look for a similar regular bulb (A19) vanity light, and found one after searching for a long while. I've got 3 Cree 100w equivalent bulbs in there and, combined, they are actually quite close to what the halogen bulbs put out in lumens, both according to the package and the actual light finally on in my bathroom. A little less than 40w in lighting for what was 300w - that's quite substantial. One worry was that they are actually A21 (bigger bulb, same socket), no manufacturer made 100w in A19, they maxed out at 75w. The light fixture said max 60w A19 so I was a tad worried. It'd be better if they were A19 but it works as is, thankfully.

So many things I want to do with my home, both from an energy saving standpoint but also because it's going to be an awesome project in automation.(aka the smart home lol)

Next major cost-saving expenditure is going to be appliances though, but most especially the AC and electric furnace. New heat pump will save in all seasons compared to what these things apparently demand.
 
$6k last month and that's down considerably after getting PTO from our utility to turn on 350kW of solar. It's been cloudy too. Today we generated 1.3MWh. 🙂
 
$6k last month and that's down considerably after getting PTO from our utility to turn on 350kW of solar. It's been cloudy too. Today we generated 1.3MWh. 🙂

Wait, what? You had a utility bill of $6k? ?! Or was that what you were paid due to your generation?
 
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